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 Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2013-08-20 10:01:20
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HP+22 STR+8 DEX+27 VIT+22 AGI+5 INT+8 MND+22 CHR+13 Accuracy+8 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+21 "Store TP"+7 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+4% Da+1 and I think PDT

Vs

STR+8 AGI+8 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Subtle Blow"+7 Haste+4% Da+2

While tenryu MAY still be better, to say the other is trash/junk is just silly.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2013-08-20 10:01:50
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DEF:30 STR+8 AGI+8 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Subtle Blow"+7 Haste+4%
AUG DA+2

DEF:74 HP+22 STR+8 DEX+27 VIT+22 AGI+5 INT+8 MND+22 CHR+13 Accuracy+8 Evasion+15 Magic Evasion+21 "Store TP"+7 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+4%
AUG DA+2 PDT-4%

on what planet is Tenryu better than Otronif?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-08-20 10:05:28
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Tekko+1 look better?

Once you have +2da on Otronif you can send Tekko to storage.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-08-20 10:06:19
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Is there a list of augments for the Otroniff? I'm finding these new sets in OP hard to swallow. I'd think the stats + crit hit on the bird hat would still put it up on top vs the store tp...

Edit: posts were posted while I was writing this, i'm just slow.
 Valefor.Mattyc
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2013-08-20 10:07:02
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Exactly Taint.
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By pchan 2013-08-20 10:07:22
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pchan said: »
Otronif is mostly junk for TP until augments are known
hint : dex does almost nothing for crit.
 Fenrir.Jinjo
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2013-08-20 10:08:29
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They all have DA+2, pchan go back to your cave.
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>.>.............
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By pchan 2013-08-20 10:09:51
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Tekko+1 look better?

Once you have +2da on Otronif you can send Tekko to storage.

I didn't say augment would not make them better than tenryu which are not even the best for all situations anyway. The OP is listing 4/5 otronif as the best gear which is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Nevermind the amnesia about faith torque.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2013-08-20 10:11:59
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"The higher an attacker's DEX, the greater their Critical Hit Rate against an opponent is."

Dexterity also effects acc >.>

someone needs to get climbing gear, the stupid tree said hi way too many times....
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By Otomis 2013-08-20 10:14:17
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Also, is Hurch'lan Sash really a better option then Anguinus Belt when haste is already capped in gear? You lose next to no haste, gain attack and double attack.

Anyone on this? Would really just like to know why?
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2013-08-20 10:14:33
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I get that you are sad that your precious salvage gear is useless again, but honestly, we don't care.

Otomis said: »
Otomis said: »
Also, is Hurch'lan Sash really a better option then Anguinus Belt when haste is already capped in gear? You lose next to no haste, gain attack and double attack.

Anyone on this? Would really just like to know why?

If you're actually capped in gear haste, go ahead.
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By pchan 2013-08-20 10:17:03
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Valefor.Mattyc said: »
"The higher an attacker's DEX, the greater their Critical Hit Rate against an opponent is."

Dexterity also effects acc >.>

someone needs to get climbing gear, the stupid tree said hi way too many times....
Considering I'm the one that tested the dex-crit relation it's funny.
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By pchan 2013-08-20 10:17:44
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
They all have DA+2, pchan go back to your cave.

You are totally pulling augments out oof your ***.
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-08-20 10:18:48
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No he is not.
Plenty of people have been confirming these augments.

As far as my knowledge extends, you are still alowed to read BG.
Read up.
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2013-08-20 10:20:16
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pchan said: »
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
"The higher an attacker's DEX, the greater their Critical Hit Rate against an opponent is."

Dexterity also effects acc >.>

someone needs to get climbing gear, the stupid tree said hi way too many times....
Considering I'm the one that tested the dex-crit relation it's funny.
What, did you test it in abyssea while using a bunch of crit atma's?

"My crit rates 95% no matter how much dex i use! Dex does nothing!"

quit posting.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-08-20 10:22:58
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Lakshmi.Zaps said: »
pchan said: »
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
"The higher an attacker's DEX, the greater their Critical Hit Rate against an opponent is."

Dexterity also effects acc >.>

someone needs to get climbing gear, the stupid tree said hi way too many times....
Considering I'm the one that tested the dex-crit relation it's funny.
What, did you test it in abyssea while using a bunch of crit atma's?

"My crit rates 95% no matter how much dex i use! Dex does nothing!"

quit posting.

No, I think he may have actually been the one that came up with the dDEX model (I can't remember for sure though). Pchan likes to be stubborn and abrasive, but not everything he says is stupid. He's being a little dumb right now though.


EDIT: I was bored and looked it up. Yeah, he was pretty heavily involved.
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 Valefor.Mattyc
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2013-08-20 10:23:50
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damn Zaps thats *** pro your completely right :( i'll just go back to my full leather geared monk :(
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2013-08-20 10:25:20
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Valefor.Mattyc said: »
damn Zaps thats *** pro your completely right :( i'll just go back to my full leather geared monk :(

*Full Leather High Five*
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 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-08-20 10:27:13
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Siren.Kyte said: »
Pchan likes to be stubborn and abrasive
I don't understand why he refuses change so much, things eventually evolve don't need to be so in denial about it.
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By Otomis 2013-08-20 10:32:49
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
I get that you are sad that your precious salvage gear is useless again, but honestly, we don't care.

Otomis said: »
Otomis said: »
Also, is Hurch'lan Sash really a better option then Anguinus Belt when haste is already capped in gear? You lose next to no haste, gain attack and double attack.

Anyone on this? Would really just like to know why?

If you're actually capped in gear haste, go ahead.

I get the "actual cap" thing your doing there 24.61%, in most Higher end scenarios Anguinus wins (by small amount, yes-But better is better), I know you had Anguinus previously listed in high acc sets, just wondered why you changed it? "I get that you are sad that your precious" Delve gear is not better then a lol-abyssea item, "but honestly, we don't care". lol, naw I am just teasing with you, just wondering since now that I have more time to play again with a focus on delve of course, will be working on my Mnk sets in near future. About 6 months behind all the updates.
 Fenrir.Jinjo
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2013-08-20 10:36:55
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Honestly, I just forgot about it.
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By Otomis 2013-08-20 10:42:11
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Honestly, I just forgot about it.

Respectable^^

On another note, I am super excited about all the damage mitigation and high Armour in new Mnk sets. The High level augs I am sure will be very smexy. Happiness awaits.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-08-20 11:13:29
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Lol inc Manibozo +1 for the next delve, which will trump this Otronif gear. :P I'm just glad I haven't been dumping Airlixirs into things just yet.
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-08-20 11:16:33
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With the plasm I've been getting the last week alone I can't really say I grieve.
Aside from that, you'll have to hope that you are even getting DA augs as far as I can see.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2013-08-20 12:42:38
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is there a list or something yet what all the possible augments for new gear are?
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By Otomis 2013-08-20 13:01:10
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Cerberus.Mindi said: »
is there a list or something yet what all the possible augments for new gear are?

Not a full list yet, but for sure in about a week or two there will be.
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-08-20 13:09:14
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pchan said: »
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
"The higher an attacker's DEX, the greater their Critical Hit Rate against an opponent is."

Dexterity also effects acc >.>

someone needs to get climbing gear, the stupid tree said hi way too many times....
Considering I'm the one that tested the dex-crit relation it's funny.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-08-20 13:25:06
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Bahamut.Shirai said: »
No he is not.
Plenty of people have been confirming these augments.

As far as my knowledge extends, you are still alowed to read BG.
Read up.

Gear does not exist until Pchan obtains it ok?
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By Otomis 2013-08-20 13:31:55
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I am trying to figure out how I get banned from the Thf forums for a couple posts inspired through Drunken Ramblings, and Pchan still post in Mnk forums. /Sigh.
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