IiPunch - Monk Guide

Anyone who has the time and resources to make the full duty set will be able to make the alabaster earring as well. Alabaster earring is hands down the best TP earring to go alongside the set, so if you can get it the haste won't be an issue. The issue is the time, money and limbus spamming to get to that point. The set absolutely IS BiS for everything tp related for every job listed, but it's going to cost an exorbitantly high price and be very time consuming getting to that point.



This is my bigger issue. The time to reward ratio is pretty terrible. Is it better than oddysey gear? Yes. Is it that much better that it justifies this high of an investment? Highly questionable. They said in the limbus thread that they didn't really know who this new gear is for, and I agree with them. It's an intense grind that goes beyond farming prime weapons to get these sets, and the cursed items are going to be extremely expensive for a very long time. If we're looking at several hundreds of millions per piece, which the +2 set is almost surely going to cost for quite some time, that puts the duty set at kraken club or more levels of gil investment. And the +1 set lacks haste even more so it's not nearly as desirable. You could have a full stage 5 prime or two, maybe more by the time you get a full set of 5/5 to R30.

I also think it's been mentioned that only +2 can reach R30 much like the JSE necks? Is the +1 limited to R25 and no higher and the normal quality stuck at rank 20? It would make sense to me if it did work like this since the JSE necks work that way.


Summs it up in a nutshell. Until you get 5/5 duty to R30 you're not really getting a whole lot beyond existing options, and the price tag is staggering when you factor in the time and gil you'll need for the -2 cursed gear.

The multiattack on the gear also isn't as valuable for TP as we're used to thinking it is if you're using Hoxne Ampulla.

Personally I think monk is the only job I would justify spending the gil on Hoxone Ampulla's upkeep cost outside something like a vengence 25 clear attempt, though that carries over to puppetmaster too I suppose, but I don't play that job. Jobs that use prime weaponskills, rudra's, savage spam etc don't benefit nearly as much as monk does from guaranteed multi proc weaponskills. A double attack does almost nothing for ruthless stroke, but H2H weaponskills get massive bonuses from multi attack. When howling fist procs a triple attack you KNOW it. So ampulla on monk looks downright bonkers. The double attack procs for each fist too, so every weaponskill is guaranteed 2 extra swings. I can absolutely see ampulla being a staple for monk, far more than any other job. That does diminish the duty set's value for monk specifically in my eyes. If you're willing to spend the gil to maintain it on other jobs then more power to you. At that point I think I'd rather just save up for the actual HQ armor for my dancer though......

Hoxne Ampulla is crazy strong for the reasons mentioned, but also you're able to weaponskill after a single auto attack round with even just a SAM roll of 7 or better (assuming God Hands).

That said, not to go too off topic, but Hoxne isn't just about increasing WS damage but also WS frequency. On DNC, I'm able to consistently get x3 climactic flourish boosted WS while engaged, whereas before maybe it was user error or lag, but I sometimes I would have an extra attack round sneak in and eat a CF charge. Even outside of CF benefits, I'm WSing every 2 attack rounds, every time.

I think if I had to pick any specific piece from the Duty set, it'd be the head. It's just a single STP short from Malignance, but offers 5 SB, DA, and -DT, and 4 TA (needs verification on how much exactly the TA aug is for this slot).

Duty head/hands/feet + Empy body/legs + green wyvern cheer = 25% gear haste.

The haste value is the same throughout the NQ/+1/+2

Over here https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/64/ Anillla posts that their HQ1 also goes to rank30, I've also seen a stream of the HQ1 going to rank30, so I believe it's reasonable to assume NQ does as well, but I'm unaware of anyone mentioning it yet and I'm second thoughts about wasting a pair matters in my NQ piece to confirm myself lol

I got curious seeing how long this gear grind is going to be and took it upon myself to manually put the gear into the Kastra sim, initially I only did the +1 because the +2 will absolutely not be worth the cost for a while, but seeing the discussion I decided to add the +2 to see if any changed, I also added the ampulla for fun lol

(This assumes the augment dats Thorny found were in the correct order)
ML35 MNK/WAR tp:1000 Double March and #9 Samurai roll(job bonus active, not crooked)Without Alabaster R30
ML35 MNK/DRG tp:1000 Double March and #9 Samurai roll(job bonus active, not crooked)Without Alabaster R30
I was also curious if any piece would make in an ampulla set
In all the simulations it ran between war and drg sub with the +1 set the body and feet were solid but the mask would swap with back and forth with ryou C with a .05 speed difference. Also it seems to not put too much worry in the non-alabaster set only being 25% gear haste, but if it has the option it slots in the alabaster earring, it removes sherida, but personally I would keep sherida for the sbII and drop schere.

As a bonus I did a quick howling fist, ml 35mnk/war 1200tp full buffs, dia3, honor, minuetx3, aria, crooked chaos, Blazed frailty/fury on an equivelent 140 apex mob. It essentially swapped out the nyame gear for duty gear
tldr The body is all around the most used of the set for mnk even if you go ampulla, followed by feet and then head for tp sets. And the +1 pieces are only 1DA less than the +2 pieces so pretty affordable upgrades imo
Now I'm tired going to sleep lol

Using Kastra sim like that is /facepalm. You should uncheck every gear you wont use anyway. None gonna use Tatenashi or Ryou for TP. Maybe SAM in one slot, but not MNK when something like Malignance is 0.1% behind offering DT and +80 meva per piece and definitely not in multiply slots alongside something like Adhemar. Whats was meva in those sets, under 400? Also for MNK there is additional customization required for buffs like Impetus. +3 empy body is simply too much white damage to take it down to slightly improve ws frequency.

Definitely not with Ampulla and not even without Ampulla.

During Impetus Empy legs, Empy body, Malignance hands beats Duty or are break even. Feet barely beats Malignance and head barely beats Mpaca, but overall best option is probably Nyame A if someone is a a MNK main.

Overall I would mostly go for feet, head and body. Probably in that order and only if you don't plan to get Nyame A head and not use Ampulla. With Ampulla none of the Duty pieces are a clear upgrade. Some are break even and generally worse alternatives. They could be upgrade in some specific scenario when you are not accuracy capped.

Umm.. "should", not "gonna", maybe.

There are times and places for glasscannonry

I don't believe tatenshi feet ever qualify though. AF feet take that slot in glasscannon (and since they now have reasonable meva, maybe they're not quite as fragile. Not bothered to run numbers on them in quite a while)

Nq and hq1 are barely worse than hq2.

Each HQ1 piece is only 1acc/macc/att/sb/da/dt/evasion/str/dex etc. And like 2 meva and 5hp less than HQ2. Augments are the same.

Hoxne Ampulla is like you said the most impactful for MNK, UT it doesn't change the fact that it's also immensely powerful for Drk, Dnc, Bst, Drg etc.

For DNC it's still easily better upgrade than whole Duty set.

Glasscannoning has sense if you being glassy also comes with you being a cannon. Here you drop like 300 meva and 20+ DT to get 1-2% damage (maybe).

Do we know for sure that augments are the same and they aren't capped lower than the HQ2s?

Interesting! The hell with HQ2s of that Phalanx set, then.

I was still under the impression that only HQ2 would be able to reach Rank 30 when I posted that. That's why I asked if there was any confirmation or not. It was initially speculated this may be the case. With the knowledge that the +1 version can reach R30 then yes, I agree the set is a lot more appealing. The magnifient set looks really good imo.

It's still not even close to being as good as you wrote though. Feet being slightly better or brake even vs Malignance, Kendatsuba or AF+4, while having less meva than Malignance and Kendatsuba.
Body is good for impetus down, but it's not a massive gain over alternatives. Legs and hands aren't an upgrade at all. Head is good upgrade if you are missing Nyame.