For The Shinies! A Guide For Thief

How many Duskslits have people been needing to actually get DMG 15+? I sort of expect dusk to eventually become more available (Alluvion phase 3?) and maybe worth spamming at that point. But I'm reluctant to spend millions on stones now if Ipetam isn't a big enough step up from Izhi. I'm not into wasting 10M+ for, say, 12dps.

Also... assume "perfect" Ipetam, no Vajra. Is Jugo+1 still best offhand?

Don't you know, hadn't you heard? 1 DPS is worth 10m easily, let alone something as crazy as double digit gains. Holy ***guy, you need to spend hundreds of millions before you can complain.

I mean yeah, 1 str is worth like 50m so.

Someone in Chat was asking for you.

I'm not saying I'm not willing to spend gil for a clear and significant gain. If it was an AH item that's slightly better than what I have, I'd be comfortable with it. I just don't even know where the line is on Ipetam becoming "worth it", or an estimate of how long it has taken most people who've done it to actually get those worthwhile augments.

Wrapping up a mythic and trying to maximize all my snow- augments on armors at the moment, and possibly going to need to focus some gil on Empy119 armor upgrades before long... so I've got stuff to spend my gil on that might be more useful to me than praying to get the right random augments for a possibly very minor upgrade to dagger.

I also KNOW I see lots of people running around with Ipetams that are easily worse than other daggers they probably own. Mostly because people just say "Ipetam is good" without qualifying what kind of augments it really needs.

DMG+15/16 is a start though, thanks Sheelay. Anybody else got info to contribute or testimonials of how long it took you to get top tier weapon augs?

Last i remember, alluvion skirmish weapon were still the shitfest like verdigris/wailing. Just go few pages back to read people that burned 50+ stones to get wsd.

Odium
99
Dagger

DMG:113 Delay:208 STR+13 DEX+13 VIT+13 AGI+13 INT+13 MND+13 CHR+13 Accuracy+13 Attack+13 Evasion+13 Dagger skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +188 Magic Evasion+13 Resistance against "Death"+13 Additional effect: "Death"

WAR / RDM / THF / BST / BRD / RNG / NIN / COR / DNC

Now this weapons looks like fun.

Is that real? Where is it from?

Vagary, of course. Looks lovely indeed, sad about the death proc rate, likely to be 1% ish, but with as fast as THF is, and as many swings as they get, could be wild.

NQ and +1 can get max potency augments? Or do you mean max potency for its tier?

so +15 on Ipetam is awesome?

If so woot woot. Used a +1 and got 15 last week.

Dmg. Right now its 15+Dmg 10 acc+atk 4 Datk.

So Ipetam is 100% better than mandau? Mine is

+16 DMG
+7 attck/acc
+3 DA

Izhiikoh is better than Mandau lately, and a well-auged Ipetam is better than Izhi. Shame that Mandau has fallen from grace.

How much better?

I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was quite a noticeable difference. However, with the nerfs to Rudra, it's possible that the lower base damage on Mandau is less of a hindrance now that it's not used nearly as much. But I haven't run anything through the spreadsheet since the patch.

Yes, it's very real.

Source

Inb4 they nerf it like Twilight Scythe and make the Death proc rate a 0.0000001% chance.

Hell, they even nerfed Twilight Knife because it was OP, remember?

Man that twilight dagger was the sex.

Has anyone found out where Odium dagger drops from?

Im sure its from vagary.

Maybe some boss drop.

Most likely a drop from Plouton, along with the amazing death spikes body armor. Has anyone found where Befouled crown, Rumination or Emanation sashes come from yet? Those can also be possible Plouton drops as well if not.

Got DMG+14, Attk/Acc + 15, WS DMG +4% on my Ipetam, not sure if it's worth throwing more gil at?

What TP back piece are people wearing btw? What's the ultimate piece?

My guess would be, it varies.

Are you buffed with Haste and Marches? Have you reached delay cap? If, so bleating mantle is probably the best piece.

Are you missing out on some accuracy or delay? Then canny cape will probably be better for you.

Desperate for accuracy? grounded mantle +1

Canny cape will be more often than not your best option. Even fully haste, unless you have haste samba, you will still need dw +11, and the best piece to have dw is from canny cape augmented.

20 attack is nice but hardly more relevant than accuracy for high level mobs.

Dw augment makes all diference. Extra dex and crit dmg are plus in overal dmg also (helping with extra crits if below dex crit cap, or acc).

I know hes a manthra so i have no interest in him.