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(Don't) Fear the Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-12-25 14:36:02
I'll be honest... Quetzacoatl, The guide is looking great, but.... I coulda used a little more cowbell.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-12-25 14:38:02
Bahamut.Cantontai said: »Bahamut.Cantontai said: »now we need Kaerin or someone to step up and make the WAR guide! lmfao
;; not sure why it's funny. If someone has better WAR sets on AH I'd be thrilled to get a link. Will take all of 5 minutes to make any set you'd need.
I always assume these guides are written with players who don't play the job in mind. It's not hard to make gear sets for BLU if you have access to BGWiki and google, but Proth's guide does a fantastic job at showcasing the variety of sets that are needed if you have never played BLU (like I hadn't before reading his guide). Maybe you think it makes people lazy if they don't know how a jobs JAs/merits/whatever impact the sets they need, but I think having the nuances of a job laid out before you begin playing and gearing it makes the end result more enjoyable.
If I'm totally misinterpreting what you're getting at and you're actually LOLing at WAR or Kaerin, well, bummer.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-25 14:40:27
Bahamut.Cantontai said: »Bahamut.Cantontai said: »Bahamut.Cantontai said: »now we need Kaerin or someone to step up and make the WAR guide! lmfao
;; not sure why it's funny. If someone has better WAR sets on AH I'd be thrilled to get a link. Will take all of 5 minutes to make any set you'd need.
I always assume these guides are written with players who don't play the job in mind. It's not hard to make gear sets for BLU if you have access to BGWiki and google, but Proth's guide does a fantastic job at showcasing the variety of sets that are needed if you have never played BLU (like I hadn't before reading his guide). Maybe you think it makes people lazy if they don't know how a jobs JAs/merits/whatever impact the sets they need, but I think having the nuances of a job laid out before you begin playing and gearing it makes the end result more enjoyable.
If I'm totally misinterpreting what you're getting at and you're actually LOLing at WAR or Kaerin, well, bummer. Can definitely tell you haven't been around AH for long.
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By Quetzacoatl 2012-12-25 14:51:12
Let's not start fights here guys D: take it to PMs!
anyway, that table looks neat, Kylos! i'll see if I can fit that in somewhere.
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By volkom 2012-12-25 14:54:38
I might've missed it but I didn't see much about dreadspike
By Quetzacoatl 2012-12-25 15:10:36
I probably didn't, so I'll get right ahead with that
edit: added dread spikes details in the magic section
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-12-25 15:49:20
Well, I can't really speak to the accuracy of anyone's DD sets as I don't have heavy DD jobs geared, but I hope to see more of these guides, they make starting a new job much more enjoyable (if you're obsessed with preparation like I am).
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-25 16:22:02
Blood Weapon [Recast: 2:00:00, 1 hour now!
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By Seha 2012-12-25 16:35:37
Um, no place for Striga crown and Chuparrosa mantle?
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-25 17:52:13
Can you add /SCH to the list of subjobs? It is an extremely useful subjob in PVP. Urteil uses it to perfection. You should ask him for some of his sets (or just check his bounty thread) for those DRKs who want to be unstoppable.
Back to reading the rest of this. Have been a DRK since 2004, and liking this guide so far.
Edit: Ain't all 2 hour abilities only 1 hour now? I still can't get used to that.
Edit2: Never realized Scarlet Delirium was so bad. I guess I shall take it out of my macros. :(
Edit3: Absorb-TP is awesome on certain monsters who don't use TP moves, like Elementals.
Edit4: Missed out Abyssal Earring on Dark Magic set. Urteil has better magic sets here.
Dark Magic 503 with Merits
Drain/Aspir
Edit5: No Strigoi Ring in any of the Reso sets?
It seems Pyrosoul x2 is better than Pyrosoul + Strigoi due to 100% STR mod.
By Quetzacoatl 2012-12-25 18:18:36
Um, no place for Striga crown and Chuparrosa mantle? Oh wow, never knew about that cape. Striga crown I knew about though, but my interest in it waned when I saw it came from legion, lol. ><
By theeklipse85 2012-12-25 18:21:54
Chuppo fits in great in Absorb - STR , espeically if you pair it with the rest of the black set/vicious mufflers set. Can get +45 str / average about 37 over 3/3.5 min or so cant remember the exact time but its baller, pair well with NV/DS as well.
As fas your TP/Embrava builds are concerned Im' assuming this is not with a 99 rag, because a few adjustments should be made, overall great pleaes for the newer Drks to start !
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-12-26 02:23:32
Let's not start fights here guys D: take it to PMs!
anyway, that table looks neat, Kylos! i'll see if I can fit that in somewhere.
Thanks. I tried to keep things together, so I started with Weapons > TP > Weapon Skill > PDT > MDT > Dark Magic > Dread Spikes/HP > Extras.
I could label each one more, like having a Key to show which are low end gears, and which are the ones you really do want to get. If that would make it easier that is no problem.
Added borders to the table, to make it easier to read.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-12-26 03:09:54
Going to add some other gear to the table. Nirastamo and Jingang Greatsword, and maybe some others.
Edit: Added Nirastamo and Jingang Greatsword
Added Bounty Sickle.
Added Mekira-oto and Mekira-oto +1
Added Grim Cuirass +1
Added Avant Gauntlets +1
Added Mekira Toshugai (As an alternative to Meikogai in PDT sets)
Added Fulad-Zereh (You never know. it might end up on AH one day)
Added Brego Gloves
Added Perle set (Because everyone has to start somewhere)
Added Dark Torque
Added Warwolf Belt
Added Vulcan's Ring
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-26 14:48:09
Here is the list of items I carry on DRK. Hoping to refine it if you have any feedback.
Code
1 Apoc Main
2 Rag Main
3 Rose Grip
4 Dup Grip
5 Hag Ammo
6 Bomb Ammo
7 Fracas Ammo
8 Impatience Ammo
9 Mekira+1 Head
10 Abyss+2 Head
11 Twilight Head
12 Phorcys Head
13 Bale Head
14 Ogier Head
15 Wiglen Neck
16 Twilight Neck
17 Ganesha's Neck
18 Breeze Neck
19 Light Neck
20 Shadow Neck
21 Orun Neck
22 Aesir Neck
23 Phorcys Body
24 Armada Body
25 Valk(ta3) Body
26 Twilight Body
27 Bale Body
28 Mekira Body
29 Ogier Body
30 Nuevo Body
31 Abyss+2 Hands
32 Phorcys Hands
33 Bale Hands
34 Magma Hands
35 Shadow Ring
36 Pyrosoul Ring
37 Pyrosoul Ring
38 Rajas Ring
39 Tyrant's Ring
40 Prolix Ring
41 Dark Ring
42 Dark Ring
43 Spiral Ring
44 Sheltered Ring
45 Pagur Ring
46 Moonshade Earring
47 Merman's Earring
48 Merman's Earring
49 Brutal Earring
50 Bale Earring
51 Kikou's Earring
52 Loquacious Earring
53 Letalis Back
54 Atheling Back
55 Shadow Back
56 Engulfer Back
57 Goading Belt
58 Shadow Belt
59 Breeze Belt
60 Light Belt
61 Phasmida Belt
62 Flume Belt
63 Windbuffet Belt
64 Bale Legs
65 Enif Legs
66 Ogier Legs
67 Phorcys Legs
68 Ace's Feet
69 Bale Feet
70 Dilarem's Feet
71 Phorcys Feet
Puts me at 71/80, enough room for Meds(3-5 slots) and drops.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-12-26 15:03:12
Here is the list of items I carry on DRK. Hoping to refine it if you have any feedback.
Code
1 Apoc Main
2 Rag Main
3 Rose Grip
4 Dup Grip
5 Hag Ammo
6 Bomb Ammo
7 Fracas Ammo
8 Impatience Ammo
9 Mekira+1 Head
10 Abyss+2 Head
11 Twilight Head
12 Phorcys Head
13 Bale Head
14 Ogier Head
15 Wiglen Neck
16 Twilight Neck
17 Ganesha's Neck
18 Breeze Neck
19 Light Neck
20 Shadow Neck
21 Orun Neck
22 Aesir Neck
23 Phorcys Body
24 Armada Body
25 Valk(ta3) Body
26 Twilight Body
27 Bale Body
28 Mekira Body
29 Ogier Body
30 Nuevo Body
31 Abyss+2 Hands
32 Phorcys Hands
33 Bale Hands
34 Magma Hands
35 Shadow Ring
36 Pyrosoul Ring
37 Pyrosoul Ring
38 Rajas Ring
39 Tyrant's Ring
40 Prolix Ring
41 Dark Ring
42 Dark Ring
43 Spiral Ring
44 Sheltered Ring
45 Pagur Ring
46 Moonshade Earring
47 Merman's Earring
48 Merman's Earring
49 Brutal Earring
50 Bale Earring
51 Kikou's Earring
52 Loquacious Earring
53 Letalis Back
54 Atheling Back
55 Shadow Back
56 Engulfer Back
57 Goading Belt
58 Shadow Belt
59 Breeze Belt
60 Light Belt
61 Phasmida Belt
62 Flume Belt
63 Windbuffet Belt
64 Bale Legs
65 Enif Legs
66 Ogier Legs
67 Phorcys Legs
68 Ace's Feet
69 Bale Feet
70 Dilarem's Feet
71 Phorcys Feet
Puts me at 71/80, enough room for Meds(3-5 slots) and drops.
Might be able to add some of those, when I find the time.
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-12-26 15:03:59
Vampiric mittens/Vampiric boots enhance drain/aspir. As far as I know there isn't a cap on the gear enhancements for these spells so those would be better for drain/aspir set provided you don't need a lot of macc.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-26 15:14:44
Here is the list of items I carry on DRK. Hoping to refine it if you have any feedback.
Code
1 Apoc Main
2 Rag Main
3 Rose Grip
4 Dup Grip
5 Hag Ammo
6 Bomb Ammo
7 Fracas Ammo
8 Impatience Ammo
9 Mekira+1 Head
10 Abyss+2 Head
11 Twilight Head
12 Phorcys Head
13 Bale Head
14 Ogier Head
15 Wiglen Neck
16 Twilight Neck
17 Ganesha's Neck
18 Breeze Neck
19 Light Neck
20 Shadow Neck
21 Orun Neck
22 Aesir Neck
23 Phorcys Body
24 Armada Body
25 Valk(ta3) Body
26 Twilight Body
27 Bale Body
28 Mekira Body
29 Ogier Body
30 Nuevo Body
31 Abyss+2 Hands
32 Phorcys Hands
33 Bale Hands
34 Magma Hands
35 Shadow Ring
36 Pyrosoul Ring
37 Pyrosoul Ring
38 Rajas Ring
39 Tyrant's Ring
40 Prolix Ring
41 Dark Ring
42 Dark Ring
43 Spiral Ring
44 Sheltered Ring
45 Pagur Ring
46 Moonshade Earring
47 Merman's Earring
48 Merman's Earring
49 Brutal Earring
50 Bale Earring
51 Kikou's Earring
52 Loquacious Earring
53 Letalis Back
54 Atheling Back
55 Shadow Back
56 Engulfer Back
57 Goading Belt
58 Shadow Belt
59 Breeze Belt
60 Light Belt
61 Phasmida Belt
62 Flume Belt
63 Windbuffet Belt
64 Bale Legs
65 Enif Legs
66 Ogier Legs
67 Phorcys Legs
68 Ace's Feet
69 Bale Feet
70 Dilarem's Feet
71 Phorcys Feet
Puts me at 71/80, enough room for Meds(3-5 slots) and drops. Soil Gorget+Belt will cover Cata, Resolution, and Entropy. Will save you a few inventory there.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-26 15:29:51
Here is the list of items I carry on DRK. Hoping to refine it if you have any feedback.
Code
1 Apoc Main
2 Rag Main
3 Rose Grip
4 Dup Grip
5 Hag Ammo
6 Bomb Ammo
7 Fracas Ammo
8 Impatience Ammo
9 Mekira+1 Head
10 Abyss+2 Head
11 Twilight Head
12 Phorcys Head
13 Bale Head
14 Ogier Head
15 Wiglen Neck
16 Twilight Neck
17 Ganesha's Neck
18 Breeze Neck
19 Light Neck
20 Shadow Neck
21 Orun Neck
22 Aesir Neck
23 Phorcys Body
24 Armada Body
25 Valk(ta3) Body
26 Twilight Body
27 Bale Body
28 Mekira Body
29 Ogier Body
30 Nuevo Body
31 Abyss+2 Hands
32 Phorcys Hands
33 Bale Hands
34 Magma Hands
35 Shadow Ring
36 Pyrosoul Ring
37 Pyrosoul Ring
38 Rajas Ring
39 Tyrant's Ring
40 Prolix Ring
41 Dark Ring
42 Dark Ring
43 Spiral Ring
44 Sheltered Ring
45 Pagur Ring
46 Moonshade Earring
47 Merman's Earring
48 Merman's Earring
49 Brutal Earring
50 Bale Earring
51 Kikou's Earring
52 Loquacious Earring
53 Letalis Back
54 Atheling Back
55 Shadow Back
56 Engulfer Back
57 Goading Belt
58 Shadow Belt
59 Breeze Belt
60 Light Belt
61 Phasmida Belt
62 Flume Belt
63 Windbuffet Belt
64 Bale Legs
65 Enif Legs
66 Ogier Legs
67 Phorcys Legs
68 Ace's Feet
69 Bale Feet
70 Dilarem's Feet
71 Phorcys Feet
Puts me at 71/80, enough room for Meds(3-5 slots) and drops. Soil Gorget+Belt will cover Cata, Resolution, and Entropy. Will save you a few inventory there.
Sweet, thats +2. (I knew that one, just been so lazy ><) (still need to carry Light for lolscourge but I still use that WS for self light and WSing a mob thats almost dead)
Bahamut.Illyst
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2012-12-26 16:13:46
Any chance at seeing a last resort up set? or can anyone provide one?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-26 16:26:06
Any chance at seeing a last resort up set? or can anyone provide one?
Which other buffs? Just having LR up doesn't change TP sets. LR+Haste+Marches or Embrava give DRK a ton of play room.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2012-12-26 16:36:10
Vampiric mittens/Vampiric boots enhance drain/aspir. As far as I know there isn't a cap on the gear enhancements for these spells so those would be better for drain/aspir set provided you don't need a lot of macc.
Yes I remember Urteil talking about these, but was missing one of them so didn't include in his set.
Bahamut.Illyst
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2012-12-26 16:48:51
Any chance at seeing a last resort up set? or can anyone provide one?
Which other buffs? Just having LR up doesn't change TP sets. LR+Haste+Marches or Embrava give DRK a ton of play room.
how about a set with the buffs you mentioned, thanks.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-12-26 17:22:09
Capped haste Rag set I use.
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By Quetzacoatl 2012-12-26 18:55:03
Set bonus scales with each piece you add. Usukane+1 set bonus adds 3% haste for 2 pieces.
What if it's 3% DA for 2 pieces, 6 for 3 etc?
Potential's door just opened. So since that's out there now, how would Ares+1 factor into the equation? For Resolution, I would hope the Hands/Legs+1 would be nice, to take advantage of the Triple Attack from legs if fSTR/ACC/ATT is capped or something. Ares Body +1 would make nice for Regen/Refresh/Hybrid set too.
Added the Vampiric Set along with the Drain/Aspir set to interchange pieces with as a suggestion, btw.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-26 19:03:06
Still don't know Ares' set bonus, and without store tp, I don't see it really replacing much of anything except hands and legs. I do use legs currently in my tp and aftermath sets already. Hands are already an upgrade when fSTR isn't capped anyways.
By Quetzacoatl 2012-12-27 04:56:43
What do your TP sets look like with them look like, just out of curiosity? And I figure the hands are in there for Reso.
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