Chatoyant replaces all the crafted elemental staffs. However, is it better then the completed ToM staffs all around?
Or is it better only in the right weather/day conditions?
Or do the ToM staffs beat it under all circumstances?
Chatoyant VS ToM Staffs
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Chatoyant VS ToM staffs
ToM staffs are better.
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Testing was done, you need ~40+ affinity atmas and weather for it to beat the Magian staves.
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thank you. People have been telling me I wasted time making ToM on my server!
People are stupid.
Funny part is there's still people who think the scythe is a good nuke option for BLM... So I'm not suprised people think this thing always is better than magian staffs, because they saw someone post a screenshot where they did more dmg with it, and did'nt bother checking buffs\situation or just don't have any idea what any of that means.
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ITT: Mage DPS matters.
Make Thunder/Ice/Dark(if you're cheeky) damage staff + Thunder Accuracy staff and an Arka IV. For everything else, there's Chatoyant. Or, just make Thunder accuracy staff and Arka IV and call it a day.
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Fenrir.Sylow said: » Or, just make Thunder accuracy staff and Arka IV and call it a day. Why, of all reasons would you make a Thunder Accuracy Staff? Stun? With all the +dark magic gear and general macc gear available, why bring the inventory -1? Gear more for haste these days on stun than anything else. If you're dark magic is capped and you're casting in a ToM damage Thunder staff along with sensible dark magic gear along with haste, you're not going to get resisted if you can land it. Hell, you probably can cast naked with the potency staff on with a perfectly acceptable rate. I didn't even know about thunder macc staff till Sylow said it, but it's probably for the recast-.
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Sylph.Binckry said: » but it's probably for the recast-. DMG affinity gives -casting time, but the MACC staff gives -recast, which is awesome for stun.
yeah brain dead at work. Was actually editing to correct, as well as thinking about my gear I carry on me at the moment for +haste% on BLM. I'm going to have to see if that is truly necessary to cap the recast on stun when /rdm and having haste.
Fenrir.Sylow said: » ITT: Mage DPS matters. Make Thunder/Ice/Dark(if you're cheeky) damage staff + Thunder Accuracy staff and an Arka IV. For everything else, there's Chatoyant. Or, just make Thunder accuracy staff and Arka IV and call it a day.  great, now that song is stuck in my head again lol. oh well i guess it could be worse. not a bad song. oh and sorry for the derail :3 Cerberus.Kvazz said: » People are stupid. Cerberus.Kvazz said: » Funny part is there's still people who think the scythe is a good nuke option for BLM... I shouldn't let it get to me, but it does >_>
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cant find any solid data. how does the recast time -% work? does it stack with haste or fast cast, or totally separate?
I would imagine it stacks much like cure cast and elemental magic cast reduction properties that are found on more widely seen items just the restriction on the ToM M.acc staff is that the spell's element must be aligned w/ that of the staff's.
back on the thunder macc staff, i hear certain legion mobs will be lame on stun resistance, and the +macc helps a lot
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: » back on the thunder macc staff, i hear certain legion mobs will be lame on stun resistance, and the +macc helps a lot Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » cant find any solid data. how does the recast time -% work? does it stack with haste or fast cast, or totally separate? Leviathan.Hohenheim said: » back on the thunder macc staff, i hear certain legion mobs will be lame on stun resistance, and the +macc helps a lot Siren.Demetreos said: » Cerberus.Kvazz said: » People are stupid. Cerberus.Kvazz said: » Funny part is there's still people who think the scythe is a good nuke option for BLM... Had some derp say to me in a vw shout: I doubt the staff is better, unless it has mcrit+10? Odin.Sawtelle said: » Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » cant find any solid data. how does the recast time -% work? does it stack with haste or fast cast, or totally separate? After some tests: the staff simply acts as a multiplicitive .14 on recast. Not applied in any significant way before or after haste/ja/fastcast. Valefor.Kiaru said: » Leviathan.Hohenheim said: » back on the thunder macc staff, i hear certain legion mobs will be lame on stun resistance, and the +macc helps a lot See my concern is that stun is almost always a built up stun resistance mechanism, making resistance to stun more of a group effort more than an individual task. (Shh! I'm grasping at straws here! Make your macc staff, and I'll pretend I never saw it under listed trials because I'm still not even 7/8 potency with a cure potency staff! And yes I'll do an earth and water potency before I'd do a thunder accuracy for the sake of completion, back the *** off) The accuracy staves are embarrassingly easy to make. BLUs can one-shot entire fields of Abyssea mobs that a SCH/RDM has AoE Enfeebled with the appropriate trial element.
Thunder ACC can be a chore (since there's no thunder element spell to pair with manifestation. Shocksquall might work) but one could SCH/BLM and alacrity shock very easily. Especially once 2hr boxes begin to pop. I recently made the wind ACC+6 staff at a rate of about 300mobs/hr. Feels like Chatoyant Staff is far more useful for NIN, COR, BLU, SMN. Any serious BLM should be able to crush ToM trials. Manifestation Absorb MND works for thunder debuff.
figured all the absorb spells would just give a dark status effect
lxg073000 said: » figured all the absorb spells would just give a dark status effect ya, wiki says dark based. Wouldn't AoE shock work? Shock is elemental magic, there's no thunder debuff that you can AoE that works for the trial unless Absorb-MND is actually considered Thunder, which I don't think it is.
Thunder acc staff sucks to make ; ;
Valefor.Prothescar said: » Shock is elemental magic, there's no thunder debuff that you can AoE that works for the trial unless Absorb-MND is actually considered Thunder, which I don't think it is. Would Thunderbolt --> Whirl of Rage work? |
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