The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

Even a nuke tier 2 should be okish in terms of dmg.

You can try spamming cdc>cdc thundeR II for extras burst til your timer is up.

I never tried that though, but provided you can survive the entire fight, i dont see why you would fail.

do you mean tier 2 nukes from subjob are okish providing enough damage during invincible to not time out or to trigger whtie !! ?

he spams invicible quite frequently, at low hp like every 10 seconds. i don't see how i'd gain tp for cdc->cdc during invincible.

I have basically the same sets and I saw minor nuke gains from cohort+1 R15. In your case, I'm assuming "geared Blu" is your way of saying "Blus with Orpheus sash". One day that thing will drop in NNI!

I dont think you would have enough m. accuracy with elemental magic. Still Anvil is actually not at that high recast. 60sec base is not much with capped magic haste, some gear haste, some FC from traits etc. Just try to burst at invincible thresholds I guess, then add 1-2 free casts during invincible.

It only spams invincible under 5%. Just leave some temps to get TP for skillchain+Anvil burst at 5%.

EDIT: Not a BLU, but this guide might be helpful

i've watched that video, its what made me wonder if BLU could solo him, too. last time i checked NIN was considered low tier and in desperate need for a update so i wondered how BLU performs in comparison on that fight.

2 minutes in he mentions at what % hp genmei(deal with it) uses inviincible and concludes he's got 6+ minutes invincible up.

In high lvl group content, not solo.

wish they'd add a KI to geas fete that lets you pop NMs for free, no triggers necessary. in turn you don't get credit for the clear, no drops and beads in case you win.

would help a ton exploring new strategies.

I'd be happy just to trade the pop items straight to the godamn ??? instead of having to get a KI.

NIN needs an adjustment, full stop. That being said it is criminally neglected/underrated. People make it seem like NIN is completely unusable when it is far from that.

For Sanguine Blade main/sub, Tizona/Max would best?

Naegling should beat Tizona on stats (Magic Damage, +INT, +MAB) for Sanguine Blade. However, Tizona aftermath will allow you to WS more often and multihit procs on WS.

Offhand Thibron (1000TP Bonus) might beat Maxentius if you are spamming it at 1000TP.

Sanguine Blade doesn't scale damage on TP, so Thibron is useless.

yeah agree with Geriond.. I'd prefer using Tizona for AM.. and just in case I wanted to use Expiation occasionally for sc.. so I guess still Tizona/Max?

Can you multihit/attack on magic WSs? Didn't know that was a thing.

No.

Only modifiers are the fTP, fStat, MAB/Macc.

You can resist, you can do double damage if the mob is super weak to it, and you can hit for zero or even heal the mob if they are either completely resistant or absorbs that element.

But you cannot MA it.

WSDMG, elemental affinity, magic damage+, and weather/day are also modifiers.

Hey, are the White Wind sets on the front page still current? Was curious if there were any updated sets beyond the sets already listed.

Front page is a bit out of date in general, but I'm not sure if there are particularly current sets listed together.

Several folks posted their current White Wind sets back on page 381.

As of a couple weeks ago, I decided to come back to the game, and I've been catching up on some of the newer gear that I'd missed since January 2019. I was in the process of getting text, weapon descriptions, and gearsets updated, but some recent family medical news is going to keep me from that for a bit.

I appreciate everyone's patience over this last year and a half, and a large thanks to everyone for keeping the thread clean, helpful, and welcoming all this time.

I'll do my best to get everything current as soon as I'm able.

Cheers.

Thank you for pointing me towards that page! Appreciated.

regarding subtle blow and BLU:
afaik BLU doesn't get any subtle blow II so subtle blow 50% is our limit unless we have a SMN with siren favor in pt?
do you only need to incorporate subtle blow equipment into your engaged sets or also WS sets? what about casting sets?

reaving wind and feather tickle:
reaving wind is -1000 TP according to bgwiki, a flat value. what about feather tickle? the wiki says "Reduces TP by ~100% without correlation bonuses."
to me that reads as if the mob had 3000 TP and i land feather tickle he'd be back at 0 TP. i'm a bit sceptical if thats the case, whats the catch? does it never land? is it -100 TP flat value from back when TP was counted 0-300, like if a mob had 3000 TP he'd have 2900 after feather tickle landed?

plague from BLU spells:
-Delta Thrust
ingame description says "additional effect: disease" while the wiki says its a -6 MP/tic and -100 TP/tic plague, what is correct? is there any chance to land it reliably on Notorious Monsters? do you need to use chain affinity or efflux for a chance/higher chance to land the additonal effect? i assume there is always a chance to land it since sudden lunges stun can also land without CA/efflux but does it increase the chance?

-cesspool
no info about it on the wikis, gobbo posted earlier in this thread on page 201:
if those values are correct the tp/tic is the same as delta thrust, even the duration is a complete disappointment? is that a bug?

Probably SE's form of "balancing" because its AOE. So many dinky spells that need updates.

Every job has access to 25 Subtle Blow II via Su5 weapon Path B, including BLU (Zomorrodnegar), so 75 SB is attainable for most jobs. It's not Tizona by any means, but it's going to be a decent weapon with the FUA+50% trait.

Here's a set I drew up a while ago I never got around to finishing in-game, which is basically minimal gear sacrifices:

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Wristbands Path D Subtle Blow +8


You would need Subtle Blow in every set to maintain it's effects on the monster.

true, but its a little bit pricy for experimental purposes and i read you can't even switch path later on.
i think MNK and NIN get subtle blow II gear, they don't need to rely on SU5 weapon, thats what i ment.

Ninja gets a total of zero Subtle Blow II gear (not even Sherida Earring), so it is in the exact same boat as other light DD jobs (DNC, THF, BLU). The advantages NIN gets to subtle blow is it has Myoshu: Ichi, which is +10 Subtle Blow. Yurin: ichi, which is like a weaker version of Penance has inhibits 10% Inhibit TP, but even that's not a great advantage because NIN will usually attack an extra time with Daken, and it's probably close to being comparable to Delta Thrust if you can reliably land it. True, NIN has access to Su3 set which is loaded with SB, but they already cap it easily in all sets, so that's not much of an advantage either. And if NIN uses a Su5, they greatly gimp their already weak dps.

Monk has the godly levels of Subtle Blow /TP feed mitigation, but no other jobs can match that. The other jobs can equally match each other.

i thought there was some piece with SB II for NIN but i guess i was mistaken. however NIN has shadows to deny the mob TP, that helps too.

i figured you'll have to spam feather tickle, reaving wind and delta thrust so you might need tizona for MP management.

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with that build you reach 49% subtle blow, add sarissapho. belt if you want that last %. you could also drop the expeditious pinion and replace bathy choker +1 with clotharious torque for 35% SB, sub /NIN or /MNK and you should also reach cap.

I play both ninja and blue mage just about the same for similar solo tasks, and I can say it's pretty much the same for both jobs in terms of tp mitigation. BLU has sudden lunge and occultation, which both deny tp to the enemy, the same as ninja has enfeebles and lots of shadows to reduce any tp gain from the enemy swinging. Ninja shadows are superior to occultation blink, but it's essentially the same function.

I think if you really wanted, you could set up a rotation of spells to cut tp generation on blue.

Sudden lunge
Reaving Wind (probably the best spell to use)
Delta thrust
Light of Penance
Feather Tickle (I think the tp reduction from this spell is around 100tp, not 100% as in full tp)

sudden lunge stun doesn't land on anything outside fodder in my experience, don't know how much the JSE neck would change that, even if it lands, its only of use for the first 2-3 casts, afterwards the stun wears instantly.

if light of penance and feather tickle only reduce tp by 100 then you could argue its not worth to cast it.


is there a way to know mobs TP so you can time the best moment for reaving wind?

It lands on W1-W2 NMs in Dyanmis D.

It's very helpful for stun locking NINs from blowing up.

Edit: Hell, it can be very helpful for any NM that has troublesome SP abilities, such as Invincible, Perfect Dodge, Hundred Fists (even if it goes off, stun locking still prevents it from actually doing anything) etc.

It also helps with the mobs themselves being a pain, like Orc. Counterstance for Orcs, Goblin Dice/Frypan for Gobbies, and Doom for Yags.