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DNC Knife question...
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 12:17:28
I'm currently using a pair of Behemoth Knives, and was just wondering if it was worth it to get a Jambiya (or two) to replace? It's only an extra 2 DMG, and I'd lose the +8 attack on each of the Behemoth Knives...so yeah, should I stick with what I got, or get a Jambiya to replace one (or both)?
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-05-08 12:18:50
I love the sound of it, I had one on Thf for awhile, lol.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-05-08 12:19:09
Get an Azoth and Adder Jambiya +1. Sheesh... Stop being cheap.
Or even and Azoth and Joyeuse.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-05-08 12:20:57
I support the Azoth, but Jambiya +1 is just a pipedream imo. No one makes it unless for personal use, and chances are pretty slim. I wouldn't even think about a Jam+1.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 12:22:48
Tbest said: Get an Azoth and Adder Jambiya +1. Sheesh... Stop being cheap.
Or even and Azoth and Joyeuse. Azoth would leave me with 0 gil...not happening anytime soon. Gonna be camping for Joyeuse soon, but in the meantime... EDIT: Adder Jambiya +1, yeah right LOL. I'm about 3 million short for the NQ.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-05-08 12:25:39
If you really want to dump the money into it get 2 Behemoth +1. Otherwise I would go with Jambiya/Behe(+1).
Kinda stupid DNC can't equip Blau too.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 12:29:29
Excesspain said: Kinda stupid DNC can't equip Blau too. Yeah, tell me about it. I love how DNC's can use knives, but no daggers? Completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Anyways, thanks for the advice...was thinking about Behemoth's +1 as well...but that's almost half my bankroll lol...so just seeing about lesser alternatives.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-05-08 12:32:32
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Excesspain said: Kinda stupid DNC can't equip Blau too. Yeah, tell me about it. I love how DNC's can use knives, but no daggers? Completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.Anyways, thanks for the advice...was thinking about Behemoth's +1 as well...but that's almost half my bankroll lol...so just seeing about lesser alternatives. Think of this logic in RL. You can hold this knife but I WILL NOT let you hold this one!
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 12:34:16
Excesspain said: Think of this logic in RL. You can hold this knife but I WILL NOT let you hold this one! *DNC picks up dagger.* "Hmmm...it looks like a knife?" *DNC stares at dagger stupidly* *DNC accidently stabs self in the face* I mean, seriously?? WTF.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-05-08 12:34:26
Wouldn't a Blau be pointless since Dnc stays above 100% often?
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-05-08 12:35:28
Haseyo said: Wouldn't a Blau be pointless since Dnc stays above 100% often? Yeah I had a R-tard moment, it would be.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-05-08 12:35:53
Yeah, but for the Dnc that solos and likes to ws/sc it would be nice.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 12:36:52
Tbest said: Yeah, but for the Dnc that solos and likes to ws/sc it would be nice. Ya, I'd love it for Campaign and all the other situations where Drain Samba III is enough to mitigate damage...
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-05-08 12:47:59
Also what's that merit abilty? Somthing Foot Rise? Doesn't that give tp along with Reverse Flourish? So moar WS once you merit it!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-05-08 12:55:52
Omg that avatar, lol. What the hell is she falling in.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-05-08 12:56:21
Just an open kind of trap door. You know, like stairs going down into a storage room.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-05-08 13:00:15
Haha the best part is the guy next to her not really reacting at all.
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By Gilgamesh.Seipheroth 2009-05-08 13:12:16
Every time i look at it i laugh, doesnt matter if it's the first or 50th time XD
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 16:29:50
Excesspain said: Also what's that merit abilty? Somthing Foot Rise? Doesn't that give tp along with Reverse Flourish? So moar WS once you merit it! Yeah, that's first on the plate when I start meriting, gonna max out No Foot Rise, and when that's complete start working on Reverse Flourish return. Then prolly dex and hp/mp. At least, that's the plan as of now lol
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2009-05-08 16:46:42
I'll be using an Azoth and a Behemoth Knife +1. The Jambiya is very sexy, but I'm partial to the +10 attack.
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By Shiva.Artemicion 2009-05-08 16:48:53
I'd say save up for the Azoth for main hand and camp Charby for your offhand and in the meanwhile use a Behe (+1 if you can). The attack and HP bonus easily makes up for the dmg and delay difference.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2009-05-08 16:49:22
Excesspain said: If you really want to dump the money into it get 2 Behemoth +1. Otherwise I would go with Jambiya/Behe(+1).
Kinda stupid DNC can't equip Blau too. Considering that a blau 100% TP or higher has HORRIBLE stats and that DNC.. well.. normally have TP higher than 100% the blau is a TERRIBLE weapon for DNC. The only reason youd ever use one would be if you were in a situation where you were spamming your TP every 100% - which probobly wouldnt happen ordinarily.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-05-08 17:00:00
Maryanne said: I'll be using an Azoth and a Behemoth Knife +1. The Jambiya is very sexy, but I'm partial to the +10 attack. Yeah, that's pretty much my take on it. I just didn't know how the extra 4 damage on a pair of Jambiya's would compare to the +16 attack on the NQ Behemoths. I figured the +attack would result in more overall damage, but wasn't sure. Jambiya is relatively easy for me to swing financially...Azoth not so much, at this point. Artemicion said: I'd say save up for the Azoth for main hand and camp Charby for your offhand and in the meanwhile use a Behe (+1 if you can). The attack and HP bonus easily makes up for the dmg and delay difference. Yeah, I'm gonna work towards the Azoth for sure...for now I guess I'll just stick with what I got, and then swap in either the joyeuse or Azoth...whichever comes first.
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2009-05-08 17:10:05
Joytoy on DNC = fail imo. Dancer Sword Skill is so low ; ;
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-05-08 17:40:38
Maryanne said: Joytoy on DNC = fail imo. Dancer Sword Skill is so low ; ; Low sword skill or not, Joytoy can be very good. It's situational, but for a lot of things (lowman events, solo, exp with pizza/sushi) your acc will be capped and would be better than a 2nd dagger for tp gain. I'd personally keep an Azoth for main hand and swap the sub weapon with Behe+1 and Joytoy situationaly as needed.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-05-08 18:03:05
Anyone who doesn't use Joyeuse on DNC either:
A)Doesn't have one, or B)Doesn't understand the concept.
It's better to use a Joyeuse and miss 50% of the time with it than it is to use a dagger and miss 5% of the time. You will get 6 TP from the Joyeuse and only 4-5 from daggers, with no Store TP. And no, missing out on 46 ACC will not lower your hit rate by 45%.
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2009-05-08 18:06:59
Like Vegetto says, it is situational. I'd personally prefer the additional stats a dagger gives. Mine isn't 75 yet, so hey, I guess I can't really talk. Just from what I've experienced, even with sword merits, I like dagger x2.
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By Ifrit.Aightonix 2009-05-08 18:25:21
Used Behe+1 as main and sub till LS basically gave me joyuese. now i can imagine being without it. HAD an azoth but had a blonde moment and sold it to sponsor my bonecrafting. biggest mistake ever but selling reraise hairpins and i should have enough to buy another one once i break latent on my main gauche. someday i aim to have an adder though. even if just to play with and eventually sell.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2009-05-08 19:03:51
Xellith said: Excesspain said: If you really want to dump the money into it get 2 Behemoth +1. Otherwise I would go with Jambiya/Behe(+1).
Kinda stupid DNC can't equip Blau too. Considering that a blau 100% TP or higher has HORRIBLE stats and that DNC.. well.. normally have TP higher than 100% the blau is a TERRIBLE weapon for DNC. The only reason youd ever use one would be if you were in a situation where you were spamming your TP every 100% - which probobly wouldnt happen ordinarily. Pretty much everything that was said above. Way to go capt. obvious.
I'm currently using a pair of Behemoth Knives, and was just wondering if it was worth it to get a Jambiya (or two) to replace? It's only an extra 2 DMG, and I'd lose the +8 attack on each of the Behemoth Knives...so yeah, should I stick with what I got, or get a Jambiya to replace one (or both)?
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