Curious as to whether the (for example) Ice Affinity: Magic Damage +6 is a larger increase in damage than the MAB +12 staff?
Bringing my blm out of retirement so I'm looking to optimize my gear.
Thanks in advance guys.
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MAB+12 Staff can't even beat NQ elemental staves.
Bismarck.Patrik said: » Magic Affinity Ice affinity +6 would equal +35 MAB, so yes its MUCH better Here is some mathy stuff from another thread that talks about Mythic Staff which has MAB+60:
Siren.Thoraeon said: » Using my nuking set (Yes it has room for improvement): Assuming a 1000 damage base 40 MAB from traits 74 MAB from gear Mythic Staff is 60 MAB 95 staff is 35% potency 99 staff is assumed 40% potency HQ staff is 15% potency Mythic: 1000*(1+.4+.74+.60)*1= 2740 95: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.35= 2853.9 99: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.40= 2959.6 HQ: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.15= 2431.1 Conclusion, Mythic beats HQ staves but is beaten by the 95/99 Magian staves.
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eh my bad i didn't know that, well regardless, the affinity magian staffs would be much better than what the OP was asking about
And for comparison's sake:
MAB+12: 1000*(1+.4+.74+.12)*1= 2260 NQ: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.1= 2354 HQ: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.15= 2431.1 Mythic: 1000*(1+.4+.74+.60)*1= 2740 95: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.35= 2853.9 99: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.40= 2959.6 Thanks guys for the awesome replies and info! All that math stuff confuses me, so I am glad there are people who get it and can break it down for folks like me. Again, thanks!
Back in titan i was like 2nd N/A player to start the affinity staves my friend got laughed at in forums for saying teiwaz 75 w/ affinity+3 was beating already the HQ staves ..how dead wrong they were lol ...and i didnt know 99 version had increase in dmg stat-wise they get 2% faster cast O.Oa is it confirmed?
Josiahkf said: » Phoenix.Bomber said: » Back in titan i was like 2nd N/A player to start the affinity staves my friend got laughed at in forums for saying teiwaz 75 w/ affinity+3 was beating already the HQ staves ..how dead wrong they were lol ...and i didnt know 99 version had increase in dmg stat-wise they get 2% faster cast O.Oa is it confirmed? Siren.Thoraeon said: » Here is some mathy stuff from another thread that talks about Mythic Staff which has MAB+60: Siren.Thoraeon said: » Using my nuking set (Yes it has room for improvement): Assuming a 1000 damage base 40 MAB from traits 74 MAB from gear Mythic Staff is 60 MAB 95 staff is 35% potency 99 staff is assumed 40% potency HQ staff is 15% potency Mythic: 1000*(1+.4+.74+.60)*1= 2740 95: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.35= 2853.9 99: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.40= 2959.6 HQ: 1000*(1+.4+.74)*1.15= 2431.1 Conclusion, Mythic beats HQ staves but is beaten by the 95/99 Magian staves. Kinda O/T, but how is he figuring 74 MAB from gear? I'm only seeing 64... Siren.Thoraeon said: » Bismarck.Patrik said: » Magic Affinity Ice affinity +6 would equal +35 MAB, so yes its MUCH better Just wanted to point out that potency does give diminishing returns in the same way MAB does since it's calculated in exactly the same manner (just a different variable in the equation). All that is meant by diminishing returns with added MAB is that if you take whatever you have now (anything above 0) and add 5 MAB it won't be a 5% increase. The same holds true for elemental affinity. If you have any at all (say +30% ice from a Varuna Staff +2) and gain 5% more (by upgrading to +3) it won't be a 5% increase in damage (it'll be a 3.8% increase).
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For Drain/ Aspir, Yama's with damage or accuracy?
Damage. You can stack dark skill and m.acc in a lot of other slots, but that potency+ on the staff is unmatched.
Out of curiosity, at what point do the Magian staves become better than the NQ Elemental Staves? Specifically the Ice staff, as that's what I'm working on currently.
Stoodle said: » Out of curiosity, at what point do the Magian staves become better than the NQ Elemental Staves? Specifically the Ice staff, as that's what I'm working on currently. The Nq staffs are equal to affinity +1, HQ is the same as affinity +2. Using that you can see that once they are affinity +3 they are already surpassing the HQ staves. So in other words, every ice staff after trial 849 will out-damage the normal quality Ice Staff? 849 gives you the Teiwaz with "Ice Affinity: Magic Damage +3".
Barring resists, of course. The HQ staff has more Macc than all the +damage staves.
Siren.Thoraeon said: » Potency however does not get devalued the more you have. Any multiplier you increase gets diminishing returns its simple math. Also any multiplier get increasing effect the more you stack other multipliers. simple example 2*2*2 = 8 you can now increase the multiplier twice with 1 points 2*2*4 = 16 however 2*3*3 = 18 |
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