Go On Strike For Salvage Dupe Victims

lolol, are you serious?

None, unless you're a gilbuyer/RMT. It is, however, an impressive amount of gil.

He was not debating, he was trolling.

However, since you raised the point: I consider it pretty irrelevant. Taking a teleport from something you can not prove* is not the same as duplicating drops. Anybody who seriously thinks they can be compared has zero perspective. The crimes, for lack of a better word, are poles apart; there is simply no comparison.

In real life, the laws reflect this. You will not get the same prison sentence for stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family as you would murdering them. That is why we have jury systems and judges and the right to fair trials. The laws in real life, and their punishment, are not black and white.

In an MMORPG, they are. The law is black and white; cheat and you will get banned. These people cheated, they got banned. It doesn't matter if they got anything from it, doesn't matter if they knew they were doing it; the bottom line is, they did it, and to Square Enix, they are guilty. In the game there are ranges of crimes as well; you could get banned for duplicating drops, tele-botting, fishing, etc etc. Some are obviously worse than others in terms of severity. But the simple fact is, you cheat, you get banned.

Ironically though, duplicating drops is a pretty severe cheat. Ironic because the people who were banned feel they did nothing wrong, or got cheated because Square Enix let them do it.

Anyway, people were banned because Square Enix deemed them guilty. Square Enix don't need any proof. If they want to ban you, they'll ban you. They don't ban for nothing, that is just a financial fact. No company would do that, and despite what the majority of people who play this game feel, Square Enix are not stupid. They'll ban if they think it's necessary. I bet their judgement is better than 99.99% of posters on this forum; mine included.

Don't agree? Great. Deactivate your account, I'm sure they will care that one more person has stopped playing because they banned cheaters.

It's their game, you play by their rules. They have the right to terminate your account at any time. If you don't like it, don't play!

Yes hes right as far as i know though I've only heard of various BC events like sandworm or the campaign ops. But yeah theres actually an amusing forum article on another site where one guy was like ***we just dupe 3 ancient torques moneys and SE is too stupid to catch us lol. I think SE caught him :)

your suggestion is to ask all who got banned "did you know that what you were doing was wrong?" "Oh really? you didnt? ok then, well un-ban you right away!"

Yep, that sounds reasonable.

When you "merely say", you do not pick fights with people over nothing. :p

Um ok sure. I'm the one preach understanding and acceptance and your the one bashing me. I love all you holier then thous. You right any disagreement is wrong. If you get caught on something it must be ok cause you did it.

You know I'm right. :p

Perhaps if your first response to my opinion wasn't "Is that the best you've got?", I might think otherwise!

Actually that was my 4th responses to you I could make comments about your responses but just blantantly proved my point for me so why bother

Fail troll is fail.

Yeah, seriously.

If you are so interested in discussing this and not trolling, why did you ignore a perfectly good counter post to your argument:



Respond to that, and I'll believe you're not just here to troll.

I see we've degrading to name just name calling. Fine your a poopoo head

Although the people on the Development side of the crew want their paycheck's, its more of the corporate part of SE that would worry about the revenue, yet its the dev-side that actually handles the in-game stuff such as bannings.

Just like RMT banning. Its good for the game balance (developers), bad for finances.

So sorry I kinda glazed over first time i saw. Well clearly most of it isnt meant to be responded to so I'll stick with the pertinent parts. How do you suppose someone Proves that the actions that are being taken while they are there are in fact cheating if they are not in the know? Also I believe there have been numerous suggestions in several forums on ways to determine if that is a telebot while screwing them over at the same time in fun and useful ways. Also I wasnt argueing that if you get nothing your not guilty someone else not sure who brought up the whole if they got drops they must be guilty thing. For the sake of redundancy I think all the people who were actually doing it got what they deserve IF they got banned. But I also think there were others who were clearly doing it that also should've banned too and guess what yes I think that the people who were "just there" or in some cases not even there but on standby shouldn't be banned.

You need a union to go on strike ;P

You are, perhaps, the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE troll on FFXIAH to date. May a thousand HIV positive belly dancers do a ragtime in your mother's uterus.

Nobody's going to boycott SE because they banned a bunch of Salvage dupers. The reason the people who aren't banned are still playing is because they chose not to dupe and wanted to continue to enjoy the game by not getting banned. Use your god damn head.

Hey gaea, what does that note say in your current avatar? I just can't make it out...

I've heard a lot of insults on the internets and outside of it, and this is by far one of the best. I must file this to memory.

Hmmm this is a pretty valid point...

Lol colorful as always gaea

People were cheating and got banned. Lock thread plz kk thx.

No system is perfect tho, same would happen in RL anyway... 2 person can get charged with murder, one will get death penalty, while other one may get jailed 10~15 years, even if circumstances were exactly the same. When justice ain't even perfect in real life (and I'm not talking about complex cases), you can't blame SE for not banning correctly everyone and sometime banning people who shouldn't have been banned. Collateral damage that's it.

Everyone agree on "people who were just there and had no idea of what was goin on shouldn't be banned".

But being there, knowing what people were doing and not reporting them = you deserve your ban. Being an accomplice is as bad as doing the act itself.

Well then I guess we are more or less in agreement. Though I do say we can still blame SE and not in the sarcastic can do anything kind of way. It's human nature to hope and demand the best from whatever justice system there is.

I heard it worked for Odin too, 3 E.bodies at a time etc. /breakgame

Well we do pay SE, like we pay taxes, so off course we want the best justice system we can have, and we want bans to be as accurate as possible. But that's not something we can change by posting stupid idea like OP's did here...

Holy ***that true? I can only imagine what the valhalla gear would sell for

I think he wanted a petetion or something not like thatll do much better. SE has shown they will only respond to some sort of large public outcry (ie news or large article in allah) which frankly there is too many people on both sides for that to happen.