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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-22 00:45:18
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Hey guys! I assume you've already seen these stats, but I'm going to repost it here. They're a translation of a JP blog. I don't know exactly which website had them first, but I'm taking it from Alla to here and he cites BG:

Head:
def23 HP+28 STR+7 acc+9 attack+9 waltz potency+7%

Body:
Def51 STR+6 DEX+6 acc+15 attack+17 Enhances "Violent Flourish" effect 2

Hands:
Def22 HP+21 VIT+6 AGI+6 acc+7 attack+7 evasion+7 enmity+4

Legs:
Def36 STR+6 CHR+6 acc+6 haste+4% Increases jig duration 2

Feet:
Def21 HP+28 DEX+6 AGI+6 acc+7 evasion+7 increases step accuracy 2

What do you think? Keep in mind that these are only the +2s, and there will be +3s to come. I'm loving the body, personally, considering that I'm unlikely to ever get a Toci's Harness.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-22 00:46:20
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All pretty worth upgrading.

Also, your last statement about them only being +2, did they confirm +3 armor?
 
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By Ariaum 2011-11-22 01:03:06
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As I understood it was gona go AF2/AF2+1(what is available now and has been) > New AF2+1... > AF2+2 but who knows. Some of what has been posted seems rather broken imho though so who knows if it's just some ones wishful thinking.
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-22 01:03:48
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i want all of it! :9
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-11-22 01:04:57
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return of the etoile TP legs!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2011-11-22 01:07:16
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^this
and hauby +1.5!
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-22 01:28:50
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Enhances "Violent Flourish" effect 2


what does it...do....<3
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-22 01:29:31
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Might be a reason to farm dnc AF2 now lol... But does this stuff beat current gears, like Toci's/Loki's, Tumblers, Charis toeshoes+2? for TP or WS? I'd still tp in the +2 AF3 pants i think
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By Siren.Pockettaru 2011-11-22 01:38:22
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its all lv99, rare/ex, armor pieces go head to feet (Stolen from nynja on BG)!
WAR
Def36 STR+8 DEX+8 Parrying Skill+9 Enhances Warcry II
Def65 HP+42 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Enhances Aggressor II
Def29 HP+28 STR+7 VIT+7 Attack+17 MDT-3%
Def51 STR+8 VIT+8 Double Attack+3% Double Attack Damage++
Def25 HP+21 DEX+8 AGI+8 Enhances Berserk II

MNK
Def30 HP+6% STR+7 VIT+7 Subtle Blow+7 Enmity-5
Def57 HP+7% VIT+8 AGI+8 Counter+2 Regen
Def20 HP+4% Accuracy+21 Attack+21 Subtle Blow+6 Chakra III
Def40 HP+7% DEX+7 AGI+7 Kick Attacks+7 Subtle Blow+7
Def20 HP+5% STR+7 DEX+7 Enhances CounterStance II Counter Damage Up (based on what others have said)

WHM
Def31 MP+35 VIT+7 MND+7 Cure Cast Time-10% Enmity-7
Def55 MP+41 Enmity-5 Refresh Enhances Regen II
Def21 HP+28 MP+28 Divine Skill+18 Enfeebling Skill+18 Enmity-6 Banish Potency vs Undead II
Def40 HP+24 MP+24 Healing Skill+18 Enhancing Skill+18 Enmity-5 Elemental Resistance Spells+25
Def20 HP+25 MP+25 MND+8 Enhancing Skill+12 Enfeebling Skill+12 Enmity-4

BLM
Def30 MP+41 Magic Atk Bonus+5 Elemental Skill+12 Enmity-5
Def53 INT+8 Elemental Skill+9 Enmity-4 Refresh
Def20 MP+34 Elemental Skill+15 Dark Skill+15 Enmity-5 Magic Burst dmg Bonus
Def39 MP+28 INT+5 Magic Atk Bonus+5 Enmity-5
Def18 MP+25 INT+5 Elemental Skill+7 Enmity-4

RDM
Def31 HP+20 MP+20 MND+5 Enfeebling Skill+18 Refresh
Def59 MP+42 AGI+6 MND+6 Healing Skill+15 Enhancing Skill+15 Fast Cast
Def22 MP+32 INT+7 MND+7 Enhancing Skill+18 Magic Def Bonus+4
Def43 MP+22 DEX+8 INT+8 Elemental Skill+15 Enhances Spikes II
Def20 MP+21 INT+6 MND+6 Magic Accuracy+4 Magic Atk Bonus+7

THF
Def31 STR+7 DEX+7 Accuracy+6 Enmity+4 Enhances Mug II
Def59 DEX+7 AGI+7 Enmity+6 Crit hit rate Crit DMG+3%
Def21 CHR+7 Accuracy+9 Evasion+9 Enmity+5 Treasure Hunter+2
Def44 STR+5 DEX+5 Accuracy+10 Enmity+6 Enhances Gilfinder II
Def20 DEX+7 CHR+7 Triple Attack Damage+3% Triple Attack+3% Enmity+4

PLD
Def36 HP+25 MP+25 VIT+7 Enmity+6 Rampart Effect II
Def72 HP+42 DT-4% Enmity+7 Enhances Cover II
Def29 HP+22 VIT+8 MND+8 Enmity+6 Shield Bash+12
Def56 HP+28 STR+7 VIT+7 PDT-4% Enmity+6
Def25 HP+25 MDT-4% Enmity+4 Sentinel Effect II

DRK
Def35 HP+42 STR+9 VIT+9 Attack+15 Dark Magic Casting Time-8%
Def64 HP+38 STR+6 MND+6 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Magic Atk Bonus+12
Def26 STR+6 DEX+6 INT+10 MND+10 Attack+6 Dark Skill+9
Def49 HP+25 MP+25 STR+7 MND+7 Dark Skill+10 Magic Def Bonus+7
Def22 STR+6 Attack+6 Last Resort Effect II

BST (some of these are speculated based on AF2)
Def34 HP+27 MP+27 DEX+7 CHR+7 Killer Effects Charm+6
Def64 HP+29 STR+8 DEX+8 INT+8 Enhances Reward III Charm+8
Def20 HP+28 DEX+7 AGI+7 Enhances Call Beast II Charm+5
Def44 HP+24 STR+7 DEX+7 Reduce Reward Cast time Charm+3
Def18 HP+18 STR+7 VIT+7 Enhances Reward III Charm+4

BRD
Def25 HP+18 CHR+8 Singing Skill+7 Enmity-6
Def59 HP+27 Attack+25 Accuracy+25 Military Parade II
Def23 HP+22 Magic Accuracy+5 Wind Skill+7 Enmity-6
Def40 HP+50 MP+50 Magic Accuracy+6 Courtly Measure II
Def18 HP+17 Song Cast Time-6% String Skill+5 Enmity-5

RNG
Def31 HP+21 STR+7 MND+7 Enmity-5 Recycle
Def59 DEX+7 AGI+7 Rapid Shot+7 Enmity-5 Double Shot Damage Up
Def18 HP+18 STR+7 AGI+7 Ranged Attack+11 Evasion+11 Enmity-3
Def42 HP+25 AGI+4 Ranged Acc+11 Ranged Attack+11 Enmity-4
Def21 HP+17 STR+7 VIT+7 Ranged Attack+15 Enmity-5

SAM
Def33 HP+28 STR+5 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Ranged Acc+9 Ranged Attack+9
Def65 HP+48 STR+9 VIT+9 Accuracy+9 StoreTP+7
Def27 HP+28 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Enhances Meditate II
Def52 STR+6 AGI+6 Attack+8 Evasion+8 Enhances Third Eye II
Def23 HP+32 STR+7 DEX+7 Attack+12 StoreTP+5

NIN
DEF29 HP+38 acc+9 Evasion+9 Parrying Skill+12 Ninjutsu Damage+
DEF60 Acc+15 Attack+20 Racc+12 Ratk+12 Dual Wield
DEF23 STR+13 Haste+4% Subtle Blow+5 Ninja Tool Expertise
DEF40 HP+56 AGI+6 Evasion+12 Dual Wield
DEF20 STR+7 DEX+7 VIT+9 AGI+9 Enmity+4 NinjutsuSkill+15


DRG
Def23 HP+22 STR+7 VIT+7 Attack+4 Enhances Wyvern Breath II
Def64 HP+46 Attack+8 Evasion+8 Haste+3% Adds support job abilities to wyvern
Def25 HP+22 MP+22 DEX+6 AGI+6 Accuracy+9 Wyvern: MDT-7%
Def42 HP+18 STR+7 DEX+7 Enhances High Jump II Wyvern: PDT-7%
Def21 HP+14 STR+7 VIT+7 Attack+7 Wyvern:HP+10%

SMN
Head: MP+42, Blood Pact delay -5, Avatar: MAB +4, Perpetuation Cost -3
Body: MP+28, Blood Pact delay -6, Avatar: Crit Rate +6%, Perpetuation Cost -3
Hands: MP+42, Summoning Magic Skill +15, Blood Pact delay -4, Enhances avatar accuracy
Legs: MP+35, Shortens spirit recast timers, Blood Pact delay -4, Avatar: Magic accuracy +6
Feet: HP+35, Blood Pact delay -4, Enhances avatar attack, Magical critical hit rate +5%

BLU
Def31 HP+21 STR+5 VIT+5 Blue Skill+7 Increases breath damage
Def59 MP+28 STR+5 DEX+5 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Refresh
Def22 HP+17 MP+17 DEX+8 MND+8 Evasion+7 Subtle Blow+7
Def40 HP+21 MP+21 STR+5 AGI+5 Accuracy+7 Magic Accuracy+7
Def21 MP+21 AGI+6 INT+6 MND+6 Attack+7 Blue Skill +3

COR
Def31 HP+17 STR+6 RangedAttack+12 Enhances Phantom Roll II
Def59 STR+5 AGI+5 Accuracy+12 Ranged Attack+12 Enhances Random Deal II
Def18 HP+21 AGI+5 Ranged Acc+7 Ranged Attack+7 Snapshot effect
Def39 HP+31 STR+5 AGI+5 Attack+9 Ranged Acc+5 Ranged Attack+5 Evasion+9
Def21 HP+17 DEX+5 INT+5 Accuracy+9 Magic Atk Bonus+6

PUP
Def25 STR+6 AGI+6 Regen Automaton:Regen Refresh
Def59 HP+21 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Automaton:Accuracy+15 StoreTP+10
Def23 DEX+5 CHR+5 Haste+4% Automaton:Haste+4% Subtle Blow+5
Def42 STR+4 VIT+4 Accuracy+9 Automaton:Magic Accuracy+9 Fast Cast
Def22 HP+31 INT+5 MND+5 Automaton:Magic Accuracy+5 Magic Atk Bonus+7

DNC
def23 HP+28 STR+7 acc+9 attack+9 waltz potency+7%
Def51 STR+6 DEX+6 acc+15 attack+17 Enhances "Violent Flourish" effect 2
Def22 HP+21 VIT+6 AGI+6 acc+7 attack+7 evasion+7 enmity+4
Def36 STR+6 CHR+6 acc+6 haste+4% Increases jig duration 2
Def21 HP+28 DEX+6 AGI+6 acc+7 evasion+7 increases step accuracy 2

SCH
Def21 HP+17 MP+17 INT+7 MND+7 Elemental Skill+9 Grimoire: Reduces spellcasting time II
Def49 HP+24 MP+24 Healing Skill+9 Enhancing Skill+9 MDB+8 Enhances Sublimation
Def18 MP+28 INT+6 MND+6 Healing Skill+9 Enfeebling Skill+9 Enmity-5
Def35 HP+24 MP+24 INT+8 Elemental Skill+9 Dark Skill+9 Enmity-5
Def17 MP+35 Healing Skill+12 Fast Cast Weather: Enhances Celerity and Alacrity effect II
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2011-11-22 01:48:12
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DNC forum.

But yea on the legs you would have to make up for that 1 haste you lose off +2 as well ><. But maybe for people it's easier to get af2+2 than empy+2. <<< IDK
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-22 06:55:46
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Considering you lose a little attack Attack, a billion evasion, Tactical Parry +1.5 TP, and 1% Haste, I'd still put AF3+2 as better TP legs than Etoile Legs +2 at the moment.

And yeah, this is "Stage 1", or the upgrade we will get next patch. Allegedly we also have a Stage 2 to look forward to. Many of these pieces (all of them?) are one notable upgrade from being the best situational piece for that slot.

Head: One upgrade from being a solid WS Piece.

Body: Already awesome with just this version, but one upgrade and I can tell Toci's Harness to go screw itself.

Hands: Already our best option for Evasion hands (I think?), but one more upgrade might make them more worth carrying.

Legs: One more upgrade and these will be the best TP legs by a mile.

Feet: Already an insane amount of Acc on these, but we don't actually need Acc for Steps. One awesome upgrade from me really giving a ***about them, sad to say.

Of these, I have Body/Legs/Feet +1 already. I can try to rush those along when the patch comes out. Oh yeah, this upgrade stage requires 50 of an item that isn't named yet " " if you don't have the +1, or 20 of it if you do have the +1.
 
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-22 12:19:47
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
nah slither gloves still push ahead with 2 eva for hands but yeah, with an upgrade they could easily be king

Def22 HP+21 VIT+6 AGI+6 acc+7 attack+7 evasion+7 enmity+4

So that's 10 evasion, making it better than Slither.

As for other pieces, definitely worth upgrading, at the very least for macro pieces. Anyone with an Anwig Salade probably won't bother with the tiara though.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-11-22 12:20:14
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
nah slither gloves still push ahead with 2 eva for hands but yeah, with an upgrade they could easily be king
You do know that every 2 AGI gives 1 evasion right?
 
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-22 16:45:16
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And yeah, this is "Stage 1", or the upgrade we will get next patch. Allegedly we also have a Stage 2 to look forward to. Many of these pieces (all of them?) are one notable upgrade from being the best situational piece for that slot.

i think people are over theory crafting the trials...cause the way they announced it its two different possible trials

AF2 -> "new" AF2+1("more work" trial) -> AF2+2

OR

AF2+1-> "new" AF2+1 (with less arduous trial requirements)-> AF2+2

thats how i read it..dunno where people got AF2+3 unless they said at the end something like "in later updates <this> will be added to <that>"

edit: but hey..if they DO make +3...id welcome it with open arms and empty porter slips :D
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-22 19:37:43
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Naw, they were pretty explicit that there would be two phases:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16982-dev1041-Relic-Armor-Upgrades?p=229260&viewfull=1#post229260

The info on this we have right now is from the one trial for each armor piece that's on the test server. There are no descriptions in the NA version, but there are full descriptions in the JP version.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-11-22 20:41:07
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I'll wait for stage 2, stage 1 feels like a mixed bag to me. Body would be nice for non-soloer, but I still look highly of DW+10 and Subtle Blow +10 on our Charis Casaque +2 when soloing.

Head is OK I guess.. 2% more waltz, and extra punch on Evisceration outside Abyssea if you don't have Rudra.

Feet are good for full blown eva set.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-22 20:43:44
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
I'll wait for stage 2, stage 1 feels like a mixed bag to me. Body would be nice for non-soloer, but I still look highly of DW+10 and Subtle Blow +10 on our Charis Casaque +2 when soloing.
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By Kalima 2011-11-23 03:50:46
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VF 2 *drool*
Jig duration 2 *drool*
Step accuracy 2..meh I'll take it.

Everything else I don't see much of a use for over current options.
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By Darkzeru 2011-11-23 05:09:23
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My main wants are head and body....for obvious reasons....

However......



Hands:
Def22 HP+21 VIT+6 AGI+6 acc+7 attack+7 evasion+7 enmity+4

Slither Gloves
[Hands] All Races
DEF:20 Attack+9 Evasion+9 "Subtle Blow"+5

Unless Subtle Blow was an issue AF2 hands would a better upgrade for evasion piece....not to mention the enmity



Feet:
Def21 HP+28 DEX+6 AGI+6 acc+7 evasion+7 increases step accuracy 2

Calmecac Leggings
[Feet] All Races
DEF:19 AGI+8 Attack-6 Evasion+8 "Subtle Blow"+6

In terms of Evasion Calmecac is better....
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By Darkzeru 2011-11-23 05:23:57
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My evasion set is as follows: (Don't know how to post the equipment slots on here)

Head: Charis Tiara +2
Body: Alcide Harness +1
Hands: Slither Gloves
Legs: Charis Tights +2
Feet: Calmecac Leggings
Neck: Torero Torque
L-earring: Velocity Earring
R-earring: Elusive Earring
L-Ring: Heed Ring
R-Ring: Epona's Ring (Don't have raja yet)
Back: Atheling Mantle (Should get boxer mantle but like the DA)
Waist: Twilight belt

Not the best eva set for dnc but it's getting there...

Subtle Blow: 30
Not to mention the natural SB DNC gets which is 20 so I'm right at the cap for Sublte Blow w/o rajas...

Now whenever I get AF2+2 I'd probably switch Slither Gloves with AF2+2 hands but the thing is.... Is +1 evasion and +4 enmity greater then +5 Subtle Blow?

Edited: Oh wait....if I get rajas that would make up for the missing SB from slither...
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-23 12:15:19
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You also gain dAGI outside Abyssea for another -3% TP fed. So they're really not that different. Still, neither of them have Haste so they're both max-evasion hands onry.
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-23 19:57:39
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
You also gain dAGI outside Abyssea for another -3% TP fed. So they're really not that different. Still, neither of them have Haste so they're both max-evasion hands onry.

What's the best hybrid piece right now? ocelot gloves?
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Darkzeru said: »
My evasion set is as follows: (Don't know how to post the equipment slots on here)

Head: Charis Tiara +2
Body: Alcide Harness +1
Hands: Slither Gloves
Legs: Charis Tights +2
Feet: Calmecac Leggings
Neck: Torero Torque
L-earring: Velocity Earring
R-earring: Elusive Earring
L-Ring: Heed Ring
R-Ring: Epona's Ring (Don't have raja yet)
Back: Atheling Mantle (Should get boxer mantle but like the DA)
Waist: Twilight belt

Not the best eva set for dnc but it's getting there...

Subtle Blow: 30
Not to mention the natural SB DNC gets which is 20 so I'm right at the cap for Sublte Blow w/o rajas...

Now whenever I get AF2+2 I'd probably switch Slither Gloves with AF2+2 hands but the thing is.... Is +1 evasion and +4 enmity greater then +5 Subtle Blow?

Edited: Oh wait....if I get rajas that would make up for the missing SB from slither...

So you have all this good gear and NO rajas? ....what? :P
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2011-11-23 20:12:36
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CoP is almost as hard as Abyssea.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-23 20:14:22
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Bahamut.Weasel said: »
CoP is almost as hard as Abyssea. Bubblin' Bernie now that there is no level cap on CoP missions.

ftfy
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Odin.Eikechi said: »

So you have all this good gear and NO rajas? ....what? :P
Everytime i went to go do the race tower i end up go do something else haha.
I plan to do it b4 the weekend thouhg :P
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-24 00:06:38
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Bahamut.Weasel said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
You also gain dAGI outside Abyssea for another -3% TP fed. So they're really not that different. Still, neither of them have Haste so they're both max-evasion hands onry.

What's the best hybrid piece right now? ocelot gloves?

Probably, as far as I can see. I still wouldn't bother carrying them, though. xD
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