Naruto Manga Thread [spoilers]

Maybe Obito Lost His Memory And Zetsu Rescued Obito And Told Obito He Was A Reincarnation of Madara. Or During The Original Naruto Chapters Madara Trained Obito And Madara Died During The Original Naruto Chapters.

Maybe When Madara Got hashirama senju cells Madara Could Have Created Black Zetsu And Zetsu Could Have Posed As Tobi

It's the first son of the sage of 6 paths using obito's body.

My friends were confused at how it is possible for tobi/obito to keep up minato speed/skill wise when they fought also. This is assuming that fight happened 1 or maybe 2 at most years after obito's "death". I mean kakashi has to be in his 30's and naruto is about 17 at this point? Number wise I think it adds up a bit. After a few theories I just wrote it off as Obito/Tobi's Kamui = DBZ's Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Much like naruto is able to exploit his clone training to cut out all that time.

Also I think Orochimaru might still be the final boss, Sasuske is most likely taking him to the Uchiha tablets to find the answers that Madara and maybe Tobi know. In turn it will leave Orochimaru with some very vital information to take over. It's a scenario I wouldn't mind seeing, since Orochimaru's character was build up so much from the start.

That is a possibility because didn't Orochimaru create Yamoto using Senju cells. And Tobi has Senju cells.

It's possible. Orochimaru states that he knows of(And has worked with) Tobi in the past. Which might be where he got the Senju cells from.

Maybe Obtio/Tobi Got Madara's Uchiha Sharingan Eyes Because Madara Transplanted His Brothers Eyes But What Ever Happened To Madara's Original Eyes Is this Why Tobi/Obito Said He Was Madara and Madara old eyes might still be linked to him so Madara would know Obito/Tobi

Yamato was born a normal baby but was experimented by orochimaru.

Wouldn't Minato Sense Obito's Chakra When They Fought?

I doubt it was Obito... It was probably Zetsu portraying Madara... which is why he got beat so easily.

whoever zetsu is he knows ALL about Madara and all of his plans so I would not be in shock if Zetsu lived durring Madara's time or was created by Madara after he obtained his Rinnengan.

I mean Zetsu clippers (lol FFXI term) around the entire world like Madara does.

Yeah the extreme tangent I went off to is Orochimaru basically becoming the Sage of Six Paths(The Creator) vs. Naruto(All the Chakra of the Creator) and Sasuke maybe with awakened Rinnegan(All the techniques of the Creator).

I Think Black Zetsu Was Made When Madara Obtained Senju Cells And Probably Rescued Obito And Implanted Senju Cells Into Him.

New chapter, curtesy of /v/. lol

:O uh ohz.

Kakashi and Gai vs Obito and Naruto vs Madara? Hell Yeah :P

they share the nines on their chests i wonder what this means and if its going to have larger implications that we yet realise.

Anyone else kinda disappointed the whole war was over a stupid chick? :(

I feel like Obito and Madara are going to take out Gai and Kakashi over the next few chapters. Then Sasuke is going to come in and team up with Naruto.

The war of Troy started over a girl. Love is often the driving force of the world!

Ok, not real modern world, but you get my point.

What's love got to do with it? Got to do with it? But really, I'm interested in how exactly Rin dies. Cause if it's bad enough to cause someone to want to destory the entire world, well. >.>

Something that is bugging me is at the end how and why is madara friendly to obito like he knows him and meet him and made plans with him. Madara was dead and was brought back to life with kabuto's jutsu so he should be as confused as everyone else. However the way he talks to him its like he has something to do with all of this, which is what I dont understand as he was dead :S

Yeah lets hope its not as lame as the I want to destroy take over the world because someone died plot /sigh

Obito hinted that he wasn't obito, but then suggested he was with the Rin talk, and then Madara himself refering to him as Obito.

..kinda disgusted it has turned out like this, but w/e.


on to the good stuff, Madara do us all a favor and annihilate Naruto now, thanks.


And if Madara isn't immune to talk-no-jutsu, *** YOU KISHI

Totally called the whole bitterness thing and his love interest dieing. If he isn't lying, that is.

I have a feeling the Kages are dead or got the ***beat out of them before Madara left, given how persistent Oonoki was that he must be defeated.

Was going to reference this earlier. Not at all disappointed really. Also maybe Obito is somehow related to Madara, could explain the familiarity.


This could be right also.

I think it's more like he threw his past self away to become "Tobi"

My guess is that Obito was saved from death by Madara. Then Madara trained him and maybe even made Zetsu taking Obito as a model then he died when attempting to do something and Obito decided to carry over their plan as Tobi. That could also explain how Obito got Rinnegan. Madara said he unlocked his Rinnegan just before he died. Obito could get it as gift from dieing Madara.

EDIT: Of course that last part would only be true if Obito had Rinnegan before. More realistic is that Obito gave Nagato some of his cells so he can have both uchiha and senju blood which would let him get Rinnegan some day so Obito could take it for himself. Obviously this theory have one big flaw. Why not just take cells from some senju descendant and implement them into own Uchicha body? Well there might be some condition that activate Rinnegan that was hard to achieve for Obito. Like some high emotions which Obito killed in himself when changing to Tobi.

laughed too hard at this >.>

It worked in the Iliad... but I'm not ready to say Rin is on the same level as Helen...