Naruto Manga Thread [spoilers]

Tobi was parading around as Madara. If Madara has survived the fight with Hashirama, even though he was supposed to have been killed, having a disfigured face would easily be explainable. And he called him Mizukage because Tobi was the real Mizukage, as he was controlling Kagura.

And the Rinnengan thing? Nagato has FAR too much control of his Rinnengan for it to be a transplant. Tobi was just being an arrogant douche monkey like the real Madara and Sasuke have been shown to be. And as he was shown to be before Minato beat his *** like a naughty child.

Tobi was only about the same height as Minato when Minato was crouched into a fighting stance.

Obito was 154 cm when he died and Minato was 179 cm. In a year he could have had a crazy growth spurt and come close to Minato's height so it's not that odd to me.

which is a little less than 10inches in difference. Obito could easily grow 4-6 inches in a year being a boy in puberty. just making him 4-6 inches shorter than minato. not too far fetched in my eyes.

except i would imagine being mostly crushed by a boulder would cut down the chance of a major growth spurt.
a good shot of the boulder coverage of his body to those that forgot. wonder how kishi will explain this one.

well if MAdara was Tobi's grandfather/father/some other family member could explain this. But ya tons of plot holes opened by this "twist" that was called ages ago by some.

Ya but there has to be a limit on what he can actually regenerate. since he used izanagi against nagatos friend..the girl i forget her name.

could Orochimaru of gotten hold of the kid and experimented on him - or are the time lines all wrong for that?

Sasuke and Itachi found Anko after their fight with Kabuto, but what happened with Yamato?

messes with the timeline anyway

One of his parents is a confirmed Uzumaki descedant. It's not unrealistic that an Uchiha who didn't unlock his/her Sharingan left Konoha in disgrace or to get away from ridicule.

Or maybe Madara had children. Even if illegitimate ones. They'd have likely never entered Konoha.

Orochimaru could of.. i dont see why not.

also obitos parents are a mystery. his dad could of been madara.

and also white zetsu and black zetsu are a mystery to me. black zetsu knows more about orochimaru than white zetsu. whether this was for story or narrative idk. but it may play out later... since idk where black zetsu is atm...

Yes but obito could have died and unlocked the rinnengan.. now idk if he did or how he would of given nagato the rinnengan.. but its possible obito unlocked the rinnegan just like madara.. cant wait for more chapters xD

Agreed !

So, we're pretty sure that Tobi was capable of merging cells with Zetsu, we know that people can take eyes from a dead guy and put it in another guy, we have a guy who can restore the dead to life and a guy who summons the dead to fight in what is essentially a zombie army...we can let all of that slide but can't believe that a 14 year old boy grew a couple inches in a year? lol

Cuz it's Naruto, stranger sh!t has happened.

Things may have happened in the meantime. Discoveries, etc. It's Obito, accept it.

Most likely obito is madara's son... Its the most logical answer. and would explain why obito had such a change of heart. learning that his dad was killed by the first hokage. (who knows about the mother)

Something leaked, it's unknown if it's true or not, open spoiler at your own risk

OR

Isn't Madara too old to be Obito's dad? The village was founded about 65ish years ago and Obito is around 30 (like Kakashi) and Madara died looking the same as when it was founded, meaning he couldn't have been old enough to be Obito's dad >_> Unless he didn't age at all in about 30 years. The village was founded 48ish years before the nine-tails attack by Tobi.

Grandpa? Naruto does have kind of a three-generations theme.

Ya idk anymore. madara could of created zetsu after his battle with senju and created a clone of himself before dieing..

or healed up using the cells of senju and later created zetsu to spy on the world while he hid from it... idk

I grew 6 inches during the summer so yeah...

Anyways, the timeline is really off since Obito and Kakashi are around the same age and Kakashi was only 13 or 14 years old when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha. Also, note that Obito died when he was 13 meaning that the attack happened not too long after Obito died. So unless the realm of Kamui has some sort of time properties it really doesn't add up.

Tobi was way too powerful and mature (it seemed) when he fought Minato for it to make much sense. I seem to recall that Tobi's abilities has sometime to do with space-time or something so that's what I'm guessing, if Tobi really is Obito.

The Orochimaru theory seems plausible as well considering his obsession with getting an Uchiha body. It might had been spurred by Obito when he possibly found and nurtured Obito. Also to consider is Orochimaru's timely return just as Tobi is unmasked. Kishimoto really made it look like Orochimaru held all the answers to every question in the story so it's a good guess.