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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-02 18:23:34
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Caitsith.Heimdall said: »
moral of this, don't say ANYTHING when somehting is good so SE won't know to nerf it
They are looking at much more than just the posts, they must be recording data about the spells and their accuracy.

They record drop rates, proc rates, accuracy, dmg, of everything I'm sure. They might not be looking at it all the time on the regular game unless they get a report about something being unusual, but during the test server every spell you cast, every ws you do, they are keeping an eye out on those numbers and making adjustments.

They might not even be announcing it like they did with heavy strike, it just that it was a very popular spell (a lot of blu's were going crazy using it so SE got very solid data) so they made a post about it since the community needed to know.

If they ever test NM's that aren't VW, they will be using us to test drop rates, the dmg the mob deals, all that stuff. We aren't the first line of testing, but we are the 2nd and more accurate group. I'm sure they will be making adjustments to the VW NM's and the odds of items showing up in the chest before final release.

So the real moral of the story would be to never use a good thing too much, or SE might take it away from you.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 18:34:38
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The real moral of the story is don't go on a *** run with the door unlocked or someone's going to crash your pad, I don't know what book yall were reading
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-09-02 18:48:00
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In good news, no sign of nerfing Sudden Lunge? 20sec stuns are ok but Heavy Strike needed adjustment? lol
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 18:56:34
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
In good news, no sign of nerfing Sudden Lunge? 20sec stuns are ok but Heavy Strike needed adjustment? lol
inb4
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-02 19:16:01
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 19:17:03
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Not a big deal, my earlier sentiments were premature. Just need a little more ACC to make up for it. Hopefully they don't nerf it again. :\


Kinda still hoping for a duration buff on Barrier Tusk.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-09-02 19:23:06
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BLUs said:
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is what i see
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-02 19:26:54
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BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
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By Carbuncle.Zeota 2011-09-02 19:31:42
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Meh. Saw that comin'. Oh well.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 19:41:40
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-09-02 19:42:28
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I want Frozen Mist already.

The delicious lulz of being able to burn with an AOE terror + ice based attack.
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2011-09-02 19:45:22
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
Even though he's trolling, you have to admit it's pretty hilarious how blu is a better nuker, melee DD and healer than RDM now.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-09-02 19:55:36
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An issue where Warrior was found not to be above every other DD job by a significant margin has been addressed.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-02 20:02:05
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Where's my new PvP stat called Vengeance at, needs moar barrista. BLU only tho, we're kinda behind in PvP.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-02 20:04:26
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Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
Even though he's trolling, you have to admit it's pretty hilarious how blu is a better nuker, melee DD and healer than RDM now.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-02 20:16:35
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Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-09-02 20:25:43
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Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
Even though he's trolling, you have to admit it's pretty hilarious how blu is a better nuker, melee DD and healer than RDM now.
It's been better than Rdm at healing and meleeing for a long time :/
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-09-02 22:03:40
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I honestly thought that the mp cost was the mistake and they forgot a 1 infront of it...

As testing goes on we'll see how bad it really is on high level mobs. I really hope it isn't like benthic.. That ***misses so very often even with acc gear. Is it just me or does it seem to miss far more often when multiple mobs are in the target area?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 22:36:38
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I honestly thought that the mp cost was the mistake and they forgot a 1 infront of it...

As testing goes on we'll see how bad it really is on high level mobs. I really hope it isn't like benthic.. That ***misses so very often even with acc gear. Is it just me or does it seem to miss far more often when multiple mobs are in the target area?
BT has literally driven me to the point of insanity some days, sometimes I don't even bother setting it just so I don't have to be disappoint when it whiffs.
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By Gimp 2011-09-02 22:46:48
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1600-1800 damage for 38mp was a bit much, have to admit BLUs...

without Ca and/or Efflux? On competent mobs and/or nms?

if so


DEAR GOD I'm glad i don't have ff with me
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-09-02 22:53:12
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Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I honestly thought that the mp cost was the mistake and they forgot a 1 infront of it...

As testing goes on we'll see how bad it really is on high level mobs. I really hope it isn't like benthic.. That ***misses so very often even with acc gear. Is it just me or does it seem to miss far more often when multiple mobs are in the target area?
BT has literally driven me to the point of insanity some days, sometimes I don't even bother setting it just so I don't have to be disappoint when it whiffs.
I was dreaming of something to go with chant to make light or dark that wasn't benthic. It is just so very depressing when you throw ca and efflux away on a whiff.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-09-02 23:09:48
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I honestly thought that the mp cost was the mistake and they forgot a 1 infront of it...

As testing goes on we'll see how bad it really is on high level mobs. I really hope it isn't like benthic.. That ***misses so very often even with acc gear. Is it just me or does it seem to miss far more often when multiple mobs are in the target area?
BT has literally driven me to the point of insanity some days, sometimes I don't even bother setting it just so I don't have to be disappoint when it whiffs.
I was dreaming of something to go with chant to make light or dark that wasn't benthic. It is just so very depressing when you throw ca and efflux away on a whiff.

Goblin rush has always been the better choice for me, unless I'm /thf or something. Even though goblin rush only makes fusion, the spell + sc still does more damage than BT + darkness.

Anyway, from my own tests, the acc cap has not been tinkered with on heavy strike. Seems they just gave it an acc penalty like slugwinder. A few misses here and there is really not going to hurt that much, considering its recast time and mp cost. Not to mention, there's always sushi :Q.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-09-02 23:17:27
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Just a -Acc penalty is easy enough to get around. :3
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-02 23:22:25
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I guess, since its only 38 MP and we can spam it. Maybe the -acc is like Benthyic Typhoon/V cleave
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-09-03 00:03:54
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The recast was 30ish seconds?
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2011-09-03 00:06:37
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IIRC, Sidewinder & Slug Shot have an inherent -40 (-60?) Accuracy offtop before it reaches 200 and 300% TP. If Heavy Strike is on -Acc status, it won't be so bad, considering once people exit from abyssea, they'll subsequently return to Acc foods.
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By Gimp 2011-09-03 11:36:19
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on voidwatch? probrably

other stuff no
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-09-03 12:59:10
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Sylph.Kiaru said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
BLU will still be the best job in this game, so you can hat all you want ^0^
Even though he's trolling, you have to admit it's pretty hilarious how blu is a better nuker, melee DD and healer than RDM now.

Generally speaking, the person who gets the cure off the fastest is the best healer. Speaking out of general circumstances, the person who doesn't get hate after repeatedly bombing the tank for 800 HP+ is the best healer.

BLU is clearly powerful, but I don't see it fitting either of those niches.
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-09-03 12:59:44
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Gimp said: »
on voidwatch? probrably

other stuff no

Implying there's other stuff
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-03 17:40:53
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Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Just a -Acc penalty is easy enough to get around. :3
Having to "get around" it still reduces the impact of the autocrit property because we have to sacrifice offensive stats to get it to land reliably. It's a senseless nerf to a spell that was long overdue.
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