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Monk Job Adjustments - Well...
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-09-01 17:40:05
.....I thought this was a thread about monk job adjustments (or lack there of) not a empyrean arguement.....
By AsuraVanzan 2011-09-01 17:40:26
I am working on Vere but seems there is always something getting in the way lol. Let's work on someone else's first. After theirs is finished it's let's work on +2 items. Then it's "FU guys I'm hopping servers!!!! I'm left saying grrrrrrr >.< I do have access to a friends mule but then I'm like damn this is boring to do solo. Then the wife aggros me lol. Idk, solo lazy is still lazy, I'll finish them someday but not in the very near future.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-01 17:40:47
I have an empy for my favourite job cause I've wanted to do something "special" for it. But the way people laugh at those that don't make one is just silly. Making an empyrean is not hard but takes a lot of time. And friends=/=slaves, so yeah I never used them for hours for days. The hardest part about Empyreans is camping the Trial NMs, you can finish any Empyrean to atleast 85 in a week Tops. Considering it used to take poeple 6 months to a year to make a Relic, spending 1-2 weeks making an Empyrean is not a long time at all.
I guess I'm just not as awesome as you. there's no way i could get 50 two-leaf choloris buds in a week and a half.
I'm going to kill myself now, thanks a lot
Same. I guess I better hang up the job.
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-09-01 17:41:34
I have an empy for my favourite job cause I've wanted to do something "special" for it. But the way people laugh at those that don't make one is just silly. Making an empyrean is not hard but takes a lot of time. And friends=/=slaves, so yeah I never used them for hours for days. The hardest part about Empyreans is camping the Trial NMs, you can finish any Empyrean to atleast 85 in a week Tops. Considering it used to take poeple 6 months to a year to make a Relic, spending 1-2 weeks making an Empyrean is not a long time at all.
I guess I'm just not as awesome as you. there's no way i could get 50 two-leaf choloris buds in a week and a half.
I'm going to kill myself now, thanks a lot ....So much mad... hate... and drama in this thread. The sad part is none of it is on topic. :(
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-01 17:42:58
Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: »I have an empy for my favourite job cause I've wanted to do something "special" for it. But the way people laugh at those that don't make one is just silly. Making an empyrean is not hard but takes a lot of time. And friends=/=slaves, so yeah I never used them for hours for days. The hardest part about Empyreans is camping the Trial NMs, you can finish any Empyrean to atleast 85 in a week Tops. Considering it used to take poeple 6 months to a year to make a Relic, spending 1-2 weeks making an Empyrean is not a long time at all.
I guess I'm just not as awesome as you. there's no way i could get 50 two-leaf choloris buds in a week and a half.
I'm going to kill myself now, thanks a lot ....So much mad... hate... and drama in this thread. The sad part is none of it is on topic. :(
There really isn't. Calm down.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-01 17:43:04
I have an empy for my favourite job cause I've wanted to do something "special" for it. But the way people laugh at those that don't make one is just silly. Making an empyrean is not hard but takes a lot of time. And friends=/=slaves, so yeah I never used them for hours for days.
The hardest part about Empyreans is camping the Trial NMs, you can finish any Empyrean to atleast 85 in a week Tops.
Considering it used to take poeple 6 months to a year to make a Relic, spending 1-2 weeks making an Empyrean is not a long time at all. Took me 3 months to finish Carabosse, same for CC. Are they hard nms? No, they're laughable. But that's how did cara: duo pup+sch making 2 pops/week, sometimes more, sometimes less. With CC I had more help but camping Heqet took away an entire day(relatively speaking, after 4 hours brains are done for)and farm runs were farther from each other. Why? Cause since we're a group of friends we thought that cycling the help for everyone was the best way to not leave anyone bitter. Took forever? Yes. Couldn't be done any other way in my case though.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-09-01 17:44:36
Plm-sam was a different story but imo outside of piercing or really good buffs situations it was still on par with a good drk or war, either way still way ahead of GK-sam for sure.
polearm samurai was just barely below amanomurakumo on non-piercing, and even surpassed it a little on piercing-related targets; last i recall, the comparisons were made with 0/8 polearm too just for emphasis
regardless, long story short, i fully embraced being laughed at on my job ever since abyssea came out, since it was kind of ridiculous that it was the best job for so long, yet nothing was ever really done about it until way later
Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-01 17:44:37
It's actually surprisingly tame compared to other threads.
Mainly because everyone who has posted is actually educated; though, I'm expecting a retard to come up with a witty elitist remark (Gradd is really tame).
Siren.Mosin
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By Siren.Mosin 2011-09-01 17:45:56
jokes man, jokes
(I'm too old for suicide, no one would care)
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-09-01 17:46:53
Idk maybe im just blessed w/ an awesome group of friends in my LS, youd be surprised to see how many people rush out to help when somebody is working on an Emp in my Shell x:
We are by no means a Event shell either strictly social.
Siren.Mosin
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By Siren.Mosin 2011-09-01 17:48:14
Idk maybe im just blessed w/ an awesome group of friends in my LS, youd be surprised to see how many people rush out to help when somebody is working on an Emp in my Shell x: We are by no means a Event shell either strictly social.
I would say you are blessed, don't take them for granted.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-09-01 17:49:04
With a skilled social linkshell, it does seem easy. My excuse is that my LS on Ramuh was a family social. Meaning kids 12-15 that don't know how to play, and old people who only want to relax and have fun. :P
Maybe now that my character's on Asura, I might get some help. >_____>
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 17:49:43
With a skilled social linkshell, it does seem easy. My excuse is that my LS on Ramuh was a family social. Meaning kids 12-15 that don't know how to play, and old people who only want to relax and have fun. :P
Maybe now that my character's on Asura, I might get some help. >_____> Harass Ironguy and say you're me
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-09-01 17:51:08
meh my bad then... I guess i've just been on the offical forums for too long... there's a person there that makes threads become locked due to the flames that come because she posts and when she's not trashing other threads... she makes her own that become nothing but garbage.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-09-01 17:51:10
Lol sure.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-09-01 17:51:17
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-01 17:51:49
Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: »meh my bad then... I guess i've just been on the offical forums for too long... there's a person there that makes threads become locked due to the flames that come because she posts and when she's not trashing other threads... she makes her own that become nothing but garbage. We all know who you are talking about without even need to mention.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-09-01 17:52:05
@ Ironguy: Speak of the devil.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-01 17:52:46
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »:( Heard some guy on Asura was trying to be me. :( Don't fall for it.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-09-01 17:53:59
Idk maybe im just blessed w/ an awesome group of friends in my LS.
Same here.
Me and my friends have helped eachother grind out our empyreans up to level 90, there was a lot of stress and hardships to be had, but we still got through it.
I love my linkshell ; ;
To add to the whole empyrean part though, it took our group 8 hours to finish an 80 Armageddon.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-01 17:55:27
I could have probably got one back on Shiva if I had ever got a turn, but in all reality we're incredibly casual on Carbuncle and I like it like this. Maybe after Sev has his Ukon I'll see if anyone wants to give me a hand on a vere (Would do Daurdabla but *** that). If not then meh.
We get ***done regardless of our gear. And where would be the fun with no wipes
Fenrir.Uzugami
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-09-01 17:56:58
I could have probably got one back on Shiva if I had ever got a turn, but in all reality we're incredibly casual on Carbuncle and I like it like this. Maybe after Sev has his Ukon I'll see if anyone wants to give me a hand on a vere (Would do Daurdabla but *** that). If not then meh.
We get ***done regardless of our gear. And where would be the fun with no wipes If Sev helps you out (assuming you have your mule by now) He can pretty much make short work of your vere w/ Ukon. lol I was farming some pop items for Chloris with mine. @_@ Took me about 40minutes~? To get the 4 sets of the "hard" items for chloris :O
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-09-01 17:58:09
was actualy hoping for at least something on guard but meh least they said something
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-09-01 17:58:39
Chukwa is the only thing that puts me off. I absolutely abhor competing for NMs.
I could build pops on Flion and on my mule in short order otherwise.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-01 17:59:01
I'm sorry I didn't know Empyreans were hard to make, if you play a job alot there is no excuse not to have an Empyrean for it. Ah that is why I have a Gambanteinn, a perfect excuse now! :)
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-09-01 17:59:52
Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: »meh my bad then... I guess i've just been on the offical forums for too long... there's a person there that makes threads become locked due to the flames that come because she posts and when she's not trashing other threads... she makes her own that become nothing but garbage. We all know who you are talking about without even need to mention. I figured some would.. but all the same I didn't want to say her name. I don't have the right to trash her rep. (and imo she does it enough to herself anyway) but enough about this.
on topic: Good to see SE reponded to the monks. Now we know they aren't just ignoring them.
Fenrir.Uzugami
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-09-01 18:00:15
Yeah ~_~; My vere was so stressful for me. Since it was before the merge and before KI's put-in boxes, etc. But holy ***how fast Vere would be now with my Ukon. @_@
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-01 18:00:28
IT: yeah it's bad to leave two jobs out of a big update this way. Give em something even if it's just for show, even if it's something completely useless and stupid like say..an ability that raises attack but prevents you from ws'ing...wait..
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-09-01 18:00:36
I'm sorry I didn't know Empyreans were hard to make, if you play a job alot there is no excuse not to have an Empyrean for it. Ah that is why I have a Gambanteinn, a perfect excuse now! :)
HEXA STRIKE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2011-09-01 18:01:26
I'm sorry I didn't know Empyreans were hard to make, if you play a job alot there is no excuse not to have an Empyrean for it. Ah that is why I have a Gambanteinn, a perfect excuse now! :) Gradd said he was gonna do club, I'm using this excuse to hold him to it.
09-01-2011 04:38 PM | Camate | Community Rep | |
| I know many of you are somewhat disappointed that there aren’t any adjustments or new abilities being added for monk in the upcoming version update. We apologize for this, but compared to other jobs, monk and warrior are already leading in certain areas and we would like to close this gap a bit by monitoring the situation.
| Quote: Persistent pugilists whose fists speak louder than words, partially because they also render enemy attacks completely impotent.
We'd like to see monks further mature into an even more supportive attacking role within the party. There's still room to build upon their renowned self-defense tactics such as Chakra and Counter, and they can also benefit from some extra training in skills like Subtle Blow and Chi Blast that leave foes too weak to fend off attacks from other party members. | We get the feeling that those of you who play monk are really into it and attracted to it because you’re able to kick some butt by punching monsters in the face. Due to this, we don’t have any plans of changing this aspect.
Additionally, we aren’t looking to add abilities and adjustments to stop enemies from using special abilities, instead we are focusing more on making it possible to actually see and feel how many times an enemy is being inhibited from using special abilities by lowering TP, making it difficult to store TP, and creating times where enemies cannot gain TP.
Though we said that monk is leading in some aspects, this doesn’t mean that we’re ignoring it. We will be looking at your feedback and discussions and utilizing the test server for future adjustments. |
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