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Too much haste?
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:06:23
I read somewhere that Haste on gear caps at 25%, i just managed to reach 26% after getting my THF afv3 legs +1 and now i am wondering..
Should i take out a piece of gear which gives haste? Like i have aurore gloves which give 2% haste, i could take it out and use other hand gears which give other stats?
I ask this because i have never been in a situation where i may possibly have, too much haste.
Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2011-06-25 20:09:26
25% is soft cap, 26% is hard cap, which is where you need to be.
Sylph.Krsone
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-06-25 20:09:46
Caps 26 so youre good, although pink gloves im unsure on im no thf but surely there is something better.
Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-06-25 20:10:24
Bismarck.Faelar said: 25% is soft cap, 26% is hard cap, which is where you need to be. lol@this.
It's just 26%, there's no other caps.
By seiri 2011-06-25 20:10:47
Actual haste cap is slightly above 25%, 25.25% iirc, and you need 26% haste in gear to achieve this. So if you have 26% haste, stick with that.
For answering your question in case you obtain 27%...
Yes, if possible swap out 1% haste for better stats. However, ideally stay at 26%, or 25% if the gain from losing that .25% haste is large.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-25 20:10:51
Haste in gear caps at 25(the percentage). However 25% in haste gear does not give 25(the percentage) because most pieces of haste gear give slightly less than the advertised percentage (a decimal value).
So, while 25(percentage) is the actual amount of haste you cap at, you need 26% haste in gear to reach this cap.
Of course, you're gaining like .3-.5% haste from that last %, so you're not getting a full % from it, but your haste is not capped w/ 25% in gear value.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-25 20:11:56
Cerberus.Zandra
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By Cerberus.Zandra 2011-06-25 20:12:00
25% is the actual cap, however because each numeral is actually slightly under the actual value (as in 5% is 4.9 something), you need 26% to truly get haste to 25%. Makes a Blitz ring less useful unless you're already going to have a substantial amount of other haste already (magic/JA).
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:13:16
No such thing as too much haste!
Also, I just watched that video on youtube veg.
By seiri 2011-06-25 20:13:29
Yes, i expect you to know more thn me anyhow tiger :D, the message is the same at least.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-25 20:14:59
Ramuh.Austar said: No such thing as too much haste!
Also, I just watched that video on youtube veg. Did you check the tags on mine?
Some of ImmaVegeta's videos has some good quotes to use as responses but has too much other stuff, so I trim them down to response videos.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:16:37
Nah, watched it on your channel.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:18:30
Ok thanks for the replies :)
Simply wanted to know if i needed to switch to using homam legs instead of afv3 legs to keep my 25% but if its 26% then its all good to TP in them.
Also there is better gloves then Aurore, they are called Ocelot gloves, i did a run for them a month ago and even with all procs on the NM, they did not drop, but i managed to get a ton of people the VV atma so it was not such a big loss :)
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:20:53
There is better gloves than aurore, they are called Dusk Gloves.
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Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:23:32
Oh i forgot about those lol, but im capped on haste now anyway, and i hate the decreased movement speed on them
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-25 20:25:18
Cerberus.Kylos said: Oh i forgot about those lol, but im capped on haste now anyway, and i hate the decreased movement speed on them
Macro them off when moving then =P
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:26:53
Yea i used to do that on my drk, but its just annoying lol, and if i got them now then ill have 27% haste, what am i supposed to get rid of?? lol
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-25 20:27:48
Show some sets and people will critique you =P Also, spellcast can take off certain gear when idle and all that.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:30:14
yea i dont use that spellcast thing, im happy with what i got for now, if people going to call me gimp just for wearing aurore gloves, well i dont care :)
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:34:29
Well, you could make one macro that will remove your dusk, AND put on increased movement, like say trotters.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-06-25 20:36:14
I'm with Kylos on Dusk gear, I love it, but I run around way too much. >__>
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-06-25 20:40:40
You can easily cap Haste on thf without using hand slot.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:42:18
I'm guessing he doesn't have 3/5 +2 though.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:43:15
Yes i do have trotters (won them from mog bonanza :) ) but i really do not feel like having dusk again, when i get some of my afv3 which has haste on them to +2 along with ocelot gloves, i will have no need for dusk, its such a level 75 gear :P
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-06-25 20:44:07
I only have 1 piece of AF3+1.
Zelus
Dusk Gloves +1 (I chose not to wear Rapparee Harness) Can wear Ocelot instead.
Twilight Belt
Raider's Culottes +1
Ballerines
27% haste so I'm over the cap myself.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:44:15
Yea your right, i got all my THF on +1 except Feet, which i have on +2 so i have max Treasure hunter
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:45:31
So you macro on trotters, but can't put
"/equip hands" on the same macro?
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Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2011-06-25 20:50:50
i suppose i can, but i also move around a lot when in a party, having dusk on will just slow down my flow of getting off SATA, i never see any thf using dusk nowadays, i think its just a personal preference
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-25 20:51:55
Should be swapping in different gear anyways for SA, TA, and SATA. I see a lot of THF wearing full Aurore, doesn't make it right, does it?
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I read somewhere that Haste on gear caps at 25%, i just managed to reach 26% after getting my THF afv3 legs +1 and now i am wondering..
Should i take out a piece of gear which gives haste? Like i have aurore gloves which give 2% haste, i could take it out and use other hand gears which give other stats?
I ask this because i have never been in a situation where i may possibly have, too much haste.
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