Spharai
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Spharai
Not sure why you would want to bother.
Bahamut.Atoreis said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: I can read just fine. If you want the exact diff in damage use Kinematic's spreadsheet. Counter is self explanatory, you even said the difference in counter rate yourself. Exactly so why you repeat what I said as an advice for me lol? Quote: Am I missing something or this would be only advantage of Spharai other than having much better look of course. Quote: The only thing Spharai have going for them are the counter+ on them. Vereth win hands down for dmg. And even with the +Counter and attack being relevant, they don't come close to Vereth's damage, purely a survival tool, mostly devalued in Abyssea thanks to counter cap and crit rate devaluing the +attack. (Impetus up just makes the damage gap all the wider).
It's neat for tanking though. That's about it. But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool.
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: Do you just have all your DBZ clips bookmarked/favorited for times like this, hahaha GENIUS. Making me want to re-watch all of DBZ again, too lol Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds.
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds. Speaking of that, anyone know the .dats for Elvaan Male Vereth and Glanzfaust? >_> or do races even have specific weapon dats? "Am I missing something or this would be only advantage of Spharai other than having much better look of course." this was about the situation when you can cap counter and have a PDT on you. Capping counter is possible with Veret too with losing just a little on damage so simply saying that spharai has advantage of counter is not entirely true when you have a cap that can be reached w/o it.
Quote: Veret set has only 19%haste and loosing few more things like accuracy,attack,set bonus,etc Quote: Capping counter is possible with Veret too with losing just a little on damage ITT: Losing 6% haste "and losing a ffew more things like accuracy, attack, set bonus, etc." is only a little bit of damage.
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: It's neat for tanking though. That's about it. That's the question here really. Is spharai really worth for tanking when you can reach the cap w/o it? I think you're just trying to create an argument from nothing to justify using Spharai at the moment. Vere are simply better. The best advice I can give is to wait until the 95 update and see how Spharai match up at that level. A huge boost might be in store for the lvl 95 version, considering SE is well aware of the ease of pumping out emps (wouldn't be surprised if the boost to WS isn't +50% or something).
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Veret set has only 19%haste and loosing few more things like accuracy,attack,set bonus,etc Quote: Capping counter is possible with Veret too with losing just a little on damage lol effin tiger... really though victory smite is out of control with damage...counter can suck it gimma those epeen numbers! Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote: Veret set has only 19%haste and loosing few more things like accuracy,attack,set bonus,etc Quote: Capping counter is possible with Veret too with losing just a little on damage ITT: Losing 6% haste "and losing a ffew more things like accuracy, attack, set bonus, etc." is only a little bit of damage. I think you missing a point when you still have like 30-50% stronger WS which should make up a lose on TP damage. Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Losing 6% haste w/ just haste spell alone is going to drop your DoT AND WS frequency by 10%. If you dip under acc cap, you're losing even more w/ taking off acc gear (like I wouldn't take off acc gear on Dragua for example or any higher tier NM).
Haste is not worth taking off for counter+. Counter+ goes in slots where you're not giving up haste for it (like WOTG earring, for example) Bahamut.Atoreis said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: It's neat for tanking though. That's about it. That's the question here really. Is spharai really worth for tanking when you can reach the cap w/o it? It's not a good option to lower damage in favor of +counter, but in Abyssea you're only around 10-20% short of that cap. It's a minor improvement, it's more beneficial outside Abyssea, but the +counter won't be as great as Vere's overall damage. Then other factors like accuracy/the mob attacking someone else etc lower counters usefulness. It's good if you are fighting something and really need the counter to live, but that's a rare scenario. Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Glanzfaust fo life Einherjar is a *** block >< Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Losing 6% haste w/ just haste spell alone is going to drop your DoT AND WS frequency by 10%. If you dip under acc cap, you're losing even more w/ taking off acc gear (like I wouldn't take off acc gear on Dragua for example or any higher tier NM). Haste is not worth taking off for counter+. Counter+ goes in slots where you're not giving up haste for it (like WOTG earring, for example) I think you missing a point again. Im talking about a situation where you need this counter. Im aware that losing haste for counter when you dont need more counter hurts your damage. I don't care about abyssea too at this comparison because it have no sense there. There is GH atma and crit rate/damage+ so high that Veret is not only monster winner on damage but also have a counter. If that much counter makes or breaks your death, you should be subbing ninja.
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Bahamut.Serj said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds. Speaking of that, anyone know the .dats for Elvaan Male Vereth and Glanzfaust? >_> or do races even have specific weapon dats? ROM/242/23.dat = Vereth. ROM/204/125.dat = Glanzfaust. Cheers. Whoops, that's only for one fist. Gimme a few. Bahamut.Serj said: Bahamut.Serj said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds. Speaking of that, anyone know the .dats for Elvaan Male Vereth and Glanzfaust? >_> or do races even have specific weapon dats? ROM/242/23.dat = Vereth. ROM/204/125.dat = Glanzfaust. Cheers. I used to do it for the Fomor mnk effect. Too bad it's Kenkonken that looks best
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Bahamut.Serj said: Bahamut.Serj said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds. Speaking of that, anyone know the .dats for Elvaan Male Vereth and Glanzfaust? >_> or do races even have specific weapon dats? ROM/242/23.dat = Vereth. ROM/204/125.dat = Glanzfaust. Cheers. I used to do it for the Fomor mnk effect. Yup, just noticed lol. Figuring out the rest (Even though I really like vereth's look.) Bahamut.Serj said: Bahamut.Serj said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Shiva.Flionheart said: But the Glanzfaust do look REALLY cool. Make Vereth, .dat swap, profit. Best of both worlds. Speaking of that, anyone know the .dats for Elvaan Male Vereth and Glanzfaust? >_> or do races even have specific weapon dats? ROM/242/23.dat and ROM/241/124.dat = Vereth. ROM/204/125.dat and ROM/205/108.dat = Glanzfaust. Cheers. Whoops, that's only for one fist. Gimme a few. Fixed. Could totally dual wield different knuckles though. Could be fun lol.
Get an Apoc then really since Apoc can change the way DRK plays and Spharai really doesnt.
Sylph.Kimble said: Get an Apoc then really since Apoc can change the way DRK plays and Spharai really doesnt. Speaking as a Apoc Owner, Apoc is a waste of time.
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Sell all your currency and buy something more useful then :P
Question sort of on topic. What's the best hand armor for MNK when face tanking? Would AF3+2 be better than say a piece with counter? Maybe Sieryu Kote for the Agility? Something else all together?
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