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BRD Advice!? Help me not suck :)
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:23:15
Cure potency is a great boon if you're in a small group or duoing a lot.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-20 16:24:06
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said:
The only essential sets are precast for songcast- and Haste for Utsusemi's. (and a small debuff set)
i wouldn't consider utsusemi essential, but i haven't subbed nin since colibri merit parties.
I fish Sweepers and bluffalo. why? Sounds like dominion party pulling, someones gotta do it. well that was obvious, but aside from leveling to 90 in the first place, for which xp i'd probably get just doing random nms, i thought most people were pretty much capped on merits. Please stop derailing the thread, you do this in almost every one I've seen you in, you confront people about something completely different other than the task at hand. People have a choice of subbing ninja, but despite what you're subbed, you want a fastcast set whether you're casting Utsusemi or you're casting Stoneskin. he said a recast set was essential for utsusemi, i just disagreed. it could have just ended there, you know.
If you're using utsusemi you should have a haste and fastcast set for it.
If I'm subbing mage I'd still have it on me for spells like Raise and Stoneskin.
Anything else? i never said recast was useless, i just disagreed that it's essential, although more than what you listed i'd use it for finale. i think that's pretty subjective, though, so i don't know why we're arguing so much about it.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:24:44
Speaking of cure potency...
Other than
Surya's +2
Augur gloves
What other pieces are there?
I was thinking about making an MKE cure potency hat.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:25:21
Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Shiva.Flionheart said:
The only essential sets are precast for songcast- and Haste for Utsusemi's. (and a small debuff set)
i wouldn't consider utsusemi essential, but i haven't subbed nin since colibri merit parties.
I fish Sweepers and bluffalo. why? Sounds like dominion party pulling, someones gotta do it. well that was obvious, but aside from leveling to 90 in the first place, for which xp i'd probably get just doing random nms, i thought most people were pretty much capped on merits. Please stop derailing the thread, you do this in almost every one I've seen you in, you confront people about something completely different other than the task at hand. People have a choice of subbing ninja, but despite what you're subbed, you want a fastcast set whether you're casting Utsusemi or you're casting Stoneskin. he said a recast set was essential for utsusemi, i just disagreed. it could have just ended there, you know.
If you're using utsusemi you should have a haste and fastcast set for it.
If I'm subbing mage I'd still have it on me for spells like Raise and Stoneskin.
Anything else? i never said recast was useless, i just disagreed that it's essential, although more than what you listed i'd use it for finale. i think that's pretty subjective, though, so i don't know why we're arguing so much about it.
It entirely depends on what you do, and I spend a lot of time fishing.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-20 16:26:21
Shiva.Flionheart said: Speaking of cure potency...
Other than
Surya's +2
Augur gloves
What other pieces are there?
I was thinking about making an MKE cure potency hat. MKE hat and ASA pants
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-20 16:27:15
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:27:58
Oh ***yeah. I guess I'll work on those. Cure IV isn't great, but it's still nice. I'm hoping that BRD will get a cure song lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2011-06-20 16:28:15
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Speaking of cure potency...
Other than
Surya's +2
Augur gloves
What other pieces are there?
I was thinking about making an MKE cure potency hat. MKE hat and ASA pants
I think augmented Zenith feets if you want to go that far.
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2011-06-20 16:30:17
Finale recast 5/5
Lullaby recast 5/5
Nightingale 5/5
Troubador 5/5
That's what I have and a brd not using nightingale and troubador just...isn't a brd imo.
EDIT: I like whm sub, can haste after i march x2 ^^b
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-20 16:30:35
Would probably be your ideal buff set for things that havent capped out already like Minuet V etc, if you care enough/have the inventory space. Obviously you'd replace any necessary pieces with any that would enhance the song specifically like the +1 to Scherzo on the af3+2 feet.
Chances are though that you never will be lugging around this much gear because 90% of the time you're playing capped marches, which in that case you'd just use anything that extends song duration.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-06-20 16:30:59
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned melee bard. Evisceration is awesome and you have access to Aeolian... just sayin'.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:31:00
It's not so much that Night and Troub are awesome...
It's more that the other 2 songs are terrible lol.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-20 16:31:20
Quetzalcoatl.Dova said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Speaking of cure potency...
Other than
Surya's +2
Augur gloves
What other pieces are there?
I was thinking about making an MKE cure potency hat. MKE hat and ASA pants
I think augmented Zenith feets if you want to go that far. Oh yea I got a pair of those, I keep forgetting I have them and leave them in my mog locker qq.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-06-20 16:32:44
Shiva.Flionheart said: Oh ***yeah. I guess I'll work on those. Cure IV isn't great, but it's still nice. I'm hoping that BRD will get a cure song lol. Paeon LX! :D
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:32:57
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said:
Would probably be your ideal buff set for things that havent capped out already like Minuet V etc, if you care enough/have the inventory space. Obviously you'd replace any necessary pieces with any that would enhance the song specifically like the +1 to Scherzo on the af3+2 feet.
Chances are though that you never will be lugging around this much gear because 90% of the time you're playing capped marches, which in that case you'd just use anything that extends song duration.
SOOOO overkill lol.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:33:18
Bahamut.Aeronis said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Oh ***yeah. I guess I'll work on those. Cure IV isn't great, but it's still nice. I'm hoping that BRD will get a cure song lol. Paeon LX! :D
I like Paeon but it's a bit too slow D:
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-20 16:33:19
Shiva.Msthief said: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned melee bard. Evisceration is awesome and you have access to Aeolian... just sayin'. It is fun, I don't have anywhere near a respectable dd set or I'd post it, it's more a makeshift throw together of stuff like Bard Relic body for ws and the like , and swift belt and a bunch of other stuff I might have lying around ;;.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:33:34
Also I'm 99% sure Scherzo caps at 34%
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-06-20 16:33:55
Shiva.Flionheart said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said:
Would probably be your ideal buff set for things that havent capped out already like Minuet V etc, if you care enough/have the inventory space. Obviously you'd replace any necessary pieces with any that would enhance the song specifically like the +1 to Scherzo on the af3+2 feet.
Chances are though that you never will be lugging around this much gear because 90% of the time you're playing capped marches, which in that case you'd just use anything that extends song duration.
SOOOO overkill lol. Just a bit :<
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-20 16:34:58
I'd still rock it.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-06-20 16:35:01
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Shiva.Msthief said: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned melee bard. Evisceration is awesome and you have access to Aeolian... just sayin'. It is fun, I don't have anywhere near a respectable dd set or I'd post it, it's more a makeshift throw together of stuff like Bard Relic body for ws and the like , and swift belt and a bunch of other stuff I might have lying around ;;.
Yeah, as said somewhere else bard has access to some really interesting pieces like Haidate and Hecatomb gear. With a good amount of work, it could be neat.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-20 17:41:58
Shiva.Flionheart said: Also I'm 99% sure Scherzo caps at 34%
I saw something somewhere where they had 716 combined skill or something and Scherzo was reducing 1k needles by 42% or something like that, but who knows what they could have been doing wrong (wearing PDT gear or something, maybe)
Still, I think it would be useful to create a +skill set for buffs, considering maybe in the future more buffs will be released which don't cap out immediately, etc.
Oh, do the Carol IIs cap?
Also, thanks for the advice everyone!
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-20 17:43:35
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: Greetings! After spending 5 hours slowly poking my way from BRD16 to BRD30, I was able to (In less time) sand-sweep my way to 77***.
BRD is my next job to 90, and it is my desire to devote full attention to it
Thanks! This is what I love to see /clap good man. If you were on bismarck I'd already be jumping Sippoy's hovering bones for ya
Good luck
I duoed Sippoy last night (2x actually, once to sell the win/drops, once for my Matinee, lol), much to the chagrin of the server migrants who were attempting to camp it and apparently didn't know it spawns at *exactly* 3:00 game time, lol.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-06-20 17:48:08
I went like 1/10 on the belt not counting the times the local xp party cfh'd it with about half blued. I hope you have better luck.
Schelen-whatever is a near-100% drop in my experience if you don't already have one.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-20 20:27:42
Shiva.Msthief said: I went like 1/10 on the belt not counting the times the local xp party cfh'd it with about half blued. I hope you have better luck.
Schelen-whatever is a near-100% drop in my experience if you don't already have one.
Gross on the belt, but at least the Schlen drops from ketea, which i will likely get a pop for while getting Cithara :)
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2011-06-21 01:42:13
Hey Asymp, off topic but, you can yell at me if you need any BRD advice, or help with (attaining) BRD gear. I'd be happy to help you whenever I'm on and not busy.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-21 02:27:23
Something like this for TP, probably for melee bard that would be easily obtainable. Can easily change the Felibre's for another Kila+2 if you don't need the benefits of it.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2011-06-21 02:29:42
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-06-21 03:15:46
I love the game nowadays, lol.
I decided I wanted Byakko's Haidate today after reading through stuff, so I decided to go up and get a pair.
1.5 hours of killing Aura Statues on DNC/THF +
5 minutes of changing to DNC/NIN +
2 Groundskeepers killed (although my friend was killing GKs for part of while I was farming Aura Statues)
+ 1 Despot + Aura Statue aggro while some JP looked on waiting for me to die to claim (I didn't)
+ 10 minutes of getting lost in Sky while another friend came out on THF
+ 5 minutes of killing Byakko
=== Byakko's Haidate
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Greetings! After spending 5 hours slowly poking my way from BRD16 to BRD30, I was able to (In less time) sand-sweep my way to 77***.
BRD is my next job to 90, and it is my desire to devote full attention to it, as such I will be meriting Singing/Wind fully (I have no plans of ever touching BLM and my RDM is forever alone so no real need for other magic skills!)
I do have several questions, mostly about merits and gearing.
1.) Merits
Here's what I'm going for:
8/8 String
8/8 Wind
5/5 Finale Recast
???
***Should I also do 5/5 Troubadour/Nightingale? I haven't seen these used in forever, then again, I've never seen the other songs used at all, really.
2.) Essential gear(sets)?
Perhaps it's because I've never really paid attention to BRD updates before, I don't know off the top of my head what's best for what!
For example, I was thinking of picking up a Sha'ir Manteel today, but wasn't sure if it was still useful. I'd appreciate any advice on what I need to go after. (It feels good to need to go out and find gear again XD)
***This is not a thread about how burning jobs to high levels is bad, and makes you bad at your job etc. Obviously I am a terrible BRD right now, because I've not even played it. Point is, I'm learning it and am making an attempt to gear it correctly :) Hopefully I'll get some responses to this while I work on capping string/wind/singing on Hpmende!
Thanks!
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