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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-01 19:04:00
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
So is 0.5 atk and 2 str on a fstr capped ws worth -20 accuracy on the chance of a multiple attack proc?


Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
-20 acc may impact your ability to land additional hits (and thus it would potentially be worth considering for Voidwatch and new Dynamis), but it shouldn't be impacting the hitrate of your primary hit.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-01 19:05:41
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Nope this has nothing to do with right and wrong. some random guy asks what's the best gear for his job or best atma and you'd spam "best atma is warrior, best gear is warrior. see some screenshots"

hey


Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
welcome to ffxi: there is a right, and then there is a wrong; there is no such thing as in-between in a game that's been found out thoroughly thanks to it being out for so long now

Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
welcome to ffxi: there is a right, and then there is a wrong; there is no such thing as in-between

Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
welcome to ffxi: there is a right, and then there is a wrong

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^read ok? ok

inside abyssea, there is nothing samurai can do that warrior cannot, bar stagger blue with gekko/kasha and red with koki, which even then by 99 war/sam will be able to easily do koki, and, if staggering blue is ever such a concern, you'd be bringing a monk over a samurai anyways

with that in mind, in the case of bringing samurai to abyssea, it's PRETTY CLEAR TO SAY that it is not right to bring the job to the event
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-01 19:06:05
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I wouldn't use V. Helm on Rana. Yeah, I went there.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-01 19:06:54
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Ramuh.Austar said:
I wouldn't use V. Helm on Rana. Yeah, I went there.

YOU SLY STALLION, YOU.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-01 19:10:00
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Ramuh.Austar said:
I wouldn't use V. Helm on Rana. Yeah, I went there.

i've used rana all of like once in the last two months or so, not even kidding :(
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-08-01 19:10:10
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Valefor.Prothescar said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
So is 0.5 atk and 2 str on a fstr capped ws worth -20 accuracy on the chance of a multiple attack proc?


Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
-20 acc may impact your ability to land additional hits (and thus it would potentially be worth considering for Voidwatch and new Dynamis), but it shouldn't be impacting the hitrate of your primary hit.

How do "may"s and "potentially"s answer that question at all
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-01 19:10:40
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2+2=4.

It will affect you in the situations listed.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-01 19:11:07
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
So is 0.5 atk and 2 str on a fstr capped ws worth -20 accuracy on the chance of a multiple attack proc?


Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
-20 acc may impact your ability to land additional hits (and thus it would potentially be worth considering for Voidwatch and new Dynamis), but it shouldn't be impacting the hitrate of your primary hit.

How do "may"s and "potentially"s answer that question at all
Because it does?
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-08-01 19:11:50
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Naw, I need maths. Get to testing.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-08-01 19:13:14
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Naw, I need maths. Get to testing.
lolwut
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-01 19:13:31
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Naw, I need maths.

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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-08-01 19:13:56
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
maff

Thank you.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-01 19:14:48
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yw :3
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-08-01 19:17:06
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Even so, you should be capped acc in abyssea, so most of the time those extra hits will still land.

As for the "oh, well I don't only do abyssea." Well then have multiple sets. >.>

..and if you ws in twilight mail, you're hardly even losing any acc in the first place, no?
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-01 19:18:13
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Asura.Kaisuko said:
..and if you ws in twilight mail, you're hardly even losing any acc in the first place, no?

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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-08-01 19:18:16
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Asura.Kaisuko said:
Even so, you should be capped acc in abyssea, so most of the time those extra hits will still land.

As for the "oh, well I don't only do abyssea." Well then have multiple sets. >.>

..and if you ws in twilight mail, you're hardly even losing any acc in the first place, no?

Well not everyone is lucky enough to make up for the acc loss with the mail. I know I spent like 10 brews soloing and didn't get it.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-08-01 19:21:04
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Bismarck.Raistlinratt said:
Take that attitude somewhere else.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-08-01 19:22:13
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Asura.Kaisuko said:
Even so, you should be capped acc in abyssea, so most of the time those extra hits will still land.

As for the "oh, well I don't only do abyssea." Well then have multiple sets. >.>

..and if you ws in twilight mail, you're hardly even losing any acc in the first place, no?

Well not everyone is lucky enough to make up for the acc loss with the mail. I know I spent like 10 brews soloing and didn't get it.

Well that doesn't the fact of the matter.

Not to mention, dex/acc you're getting from other pieces, need to focus on more than just the -20 acc head piece, and realise you're probably making it up in other areas already.
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-08-01 19:23:07
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Why would you ws in dex/acc gear though?
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-08-01 19:25:17
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Well, idk what you're using, but rajas has dex, +2 pants have dex I believe, +2 feet have acc, maybe you're using K. Osode so it has dex, etc etc
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-01 19:25:28
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Why would you ws in dex/acc gear though?
exactly
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-08-01 19:26:49
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Ramuh.Austar said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Why would you ws in dex/acc gear though?
exactly

Well, it just so happens to be on the pieces you're using, I never said go out using Fudo with sniper rings+1 or something lol
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-01 19:27:21
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Asura.Kaisuko said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
Cerberus.Lasareth said:
Why would you ws in dex/acc gear though?
exactly

Well, it just so happens to be on the pieces you're using, I never said go out using Fudo with sniper rings+1 or something lol
I know but it's like entire reason behind v. helm and twilight.
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