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Input on my TP set
By Aequitasx 2011-05-29 00:51:00
Looking on ways to improve the set. Still need to get AF3 +2 feet. If your going to post a change please provide a reason behind it to help me understand. Thanks
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2011-05-29 03:01:18
Iga Mimikazari's Dual Wield bonus is 2-3%, whereas Suppanomimi is 5% Dual Wield. I recommend using Suppa.
Before I got Kannagi, I liked using evasion Sekka +2 over Hochomasamune unless it was for tanking something that evasion didn't help with (Iron Giants and magic-heavy mobs), but that's moar preference.
Although Ballerines have moar evasion, I'll take my attack back, as well as some STR/DEX with AF feet+2 like you said you're trying to get.
Other than that, you have what I use. KERO IS A KANNAGI NINJA SO YOU MUST TRUST HIS WORD LIKE FACT.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-05-29 03:13:21
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: Iga Mimikazari's Dual Wield bonus is 2-3%, whereas Suppanomimi is 5% Dual Wield. I recommend using Suppa. Any reason against both?
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2011-05-29 03:19:23
Diabolos.Raelia said: Carbuncle.Kerokun said: Iga Mimikazari's Dual Wield bonus is 2-3%, whereas Suppanomimi is 5% Dual Wield. I recommend using Suppa. Any reason against both? Against? I'm not against Suppa at all. Suppa's my homeboy.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-05-29 03:19:24
Uh, Iga Tekko +2, for the set bonus of course!
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2011-05-29 03:21:31
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Uh, Iga Tekko +2, for the set bonus of course! The greatest disappointment evar. I was, like, "*** yeah, extra hit on dual wield~" Now, I'm, like, "/cry, back to Ocelot + chainmail."
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By Fenrir.Kut 2011-05-29 03:34:25
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: Diabolos.Raelia said: Carbuncle.Kerokun said: Iga Mimikazari's Dual Wield bonus is 2-3%, whereas Suppanomimi is 5% Dual Wield. I recommend using Suppa. Any reason against both? Against? I'm not against Suppa at all. Suppa's my homeboy.
I think he meant against using both Suppa and Iga at the same time.
Brutal should beat out Iga.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-05-29 03:38:27
[+]
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 04:33:02
Ramuh.Lorzy said: isn't iga 1%?
It was last I checked <_>
By Ashaaman 2011-05-29 04:41:36
I'm still fairly new to NIN as well, but I believe in a thread maybe a day or two ago, it kind of got derailed, but it was posted that this set would be best.
Edit: Rings/Earrings/Weapons are all backwards :( Stupid auto-order thing.
Real edit: Though I could have been mistaken and this set was only best for kannagi holders... That was never said.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 04:43:51
Ashaaman said: I'm still fairly new to NIN as well, but I believe in a thread maybe a day or two ago, it kind of got derailed, but it was posted that this set would be best.
Edit: Rings/Earrings/Weapons are all backwards :( Stupid auto-order thing.
Nope, rings and earrings are on the correct slots!:P
RAJAS AND BRUTAL ON THE RIGHT!
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-29 04:43:56
On my phone so I can't tell what everything is but I think that's only best if you're not recieving full buffs.
By Ashaaman 2011-05-29 04:45:39
Weapon/Kamome/_/Q Tath
AF3+2/Iga/Brutal/Suppa
AF1+1/Dusk+1/Rajas/Epona
Atheling/Twilight/AF3+2/Usu
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-29 04:47:25
swap ninja chainmail (+1) and suppanomimi out for iga ningi +2 and centaurus earring with dual marches (and haste); other than that one condition though, that set's the best to tp in, yes
ps: brutal/rajas on the right or you recieve a 76.8% damage penalty by having them both (or even merely one) on the left <call>
my chainmail would be +1, but i've still got bropademak to do for the ninety stage, and shock spikes during that fight = :(
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-05-29 04:49:34
I *believe* that's the best when you're not getting +4 marches+haste, but I could be mistaken. I'd wait for a mathologist.
By Ashaaman 2011-05-29 04:54:19
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: swap ninja chainmail (+1) and suppanomimi out for iga ningi +2 and centaurus earring with dual marches (and haste); other than that one condition though, that set's the best to tp in, yes
ps: brutal/rajas on the right or you recieve a 76.8% damage penalty by having them both (or even merely one) on the left <call>
my chainmail would be +1, but i've still got bropademak to do for the ninety stage, and shock spikes during that fight = :(
Ope, I didn't even think about the shock spikes for that... Haha, that could be funny.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 04:57:34
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
ps: brutal/rajas on the right or you recieve a 76.8% damage penalty by having them both (or even merely one) on the left <call>
This so much.
By Aequitasx 2011-05-29 04:59:31
Thanks i will have to look into usu feet as well. the only reason i use iga earring (If the 1% is not worth it what other earring options wotg regain earring of any use?) instead of suppa is i am keeping the bushi for sam unfortunately.. also need dusk +1 gloves to keep haste cap with usu feet?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 05:02:20
Aequitasx said: Thanks i will have to look into usu feet as well. the only reason i use iga earring (If the 1% is not worth it what other earring options wotg regain earring of any use?) instead of suppa is i am keeping the bushi for sam unfortunately.. also need dusk +1 gloves to keep haste cap with usu feet?
Yes, need dusk+1.
Also, if you really dont wanna get rid of Bushi, I suppose Iga would be ok.
But WOTG with attack and regain would be good aswell.
I'm using Iga on my mule because I have Bushi aswell :P
But yeah, lolmule etc
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-29 05:04:12
yes dusk +1 is needed in that build for the last decimal of haste
also, drop bushi and get supernomeme, as much as i hate to admit it; moonshade with regain makes a better tp earring by allowing you to tp in ganesha's mala, as well as oneiros ring (over hoard ring), as shown here-ish (didn't list oneiros ring over strigoi because i value my hp merits and besides, sam isn't relevant at lv90 atm anyways :( )
oh, also, ws in this, since you'll need the additional store tp on ws to make up for the (worthwhile) improvements on the tp set
*sphere effect on the body doesn't apply to the wearer
now, as we were, talking about ninja things and not samurai things
By Aequitasx 2011-05-29 05:12:01
you could have just sold me on that idea. Suppa is more beneficial all around for me anyway.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-05-29 05:13:42
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Suppanomimi
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Ukonvasara
TRAITOR.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-29 05:18:44
kinda hard to justify a job that gets tooled on by terrible jobs such as drg and pup in the only truly relevant event in the game atm :(
voidwalkers, awhellyea, but even then, major snorefest there atm since most of the gear's junk/mediocre bar a handful of items
they need to make relic ws's crit and also make the x2-3 damage process rate about 25% by 99, OK???????????????????????
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-05-29 05:27:47
I do have plans to drop bushi too. Using ethereal atm pretending it's really suppa, don't think anyone's noticed yet.
By Aequitasx 2011-05-29 05:28:26
well played..
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-29 05:32:23
i'll have mine until the end of time thanks to separate characters, but still, it's been slowly becoming outdated over the course of this year anywho, sadly
in before dm/an earring augments at 99 and bushi being able to get +50% tp bonus or 2/tick regain
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 06:27:34
But, I got a question.
Agasaya or Iga necklace?
I've been using Agasaya myself for the subtle blow, but idk..
I have Iga but I never use it for anything <_>
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-29 06:43:30
i'm almost certain outside abyssea agasaya's would win, but that aside, i like iga for the fact it's eva on an evasive job; well, that, and inventory -1 on a job that i'm already 78/80 on = nothx
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-29 07:04:49
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: i'm almost certain outside abyssea agasaya's would win, but that aside, i like iga for the fact it's eva on an evasive job; well, that, and inventory -1 on a job that i'm already 78/80 on = nothx
Got torero for evasion, but idk..
The extra evasion even in full dd gear doesnt really hurt I guess <_>
Meh, I'll try to figure out which I wanna use
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-29 09:43:37
Ppl still do abyssea?
Best outside set.
Byakko's have VIT+5 STP+3 Crit dmg+4% (still trying for DEX aug)
Crit % around 35-40% on most mobs including VW (Except t3 Vamp >.>)
Looking on ways to improve the set. Still need to get AF3 +2 feet. If your going to post a change please provide a reason behind it to help me understand. Thanks
NIN TP
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