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 Fenrir.Shishiza
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By Fenrir.Shishiza 2011-05-24 17:07:17
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Here's a quickone, Anguinus, Shadow or Warwolf belt(Agi+1 augment herp) outside abyssea?
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-24 17:07:42
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
What's up with all the crit rate hate outside abyssea? The lower your natural crit rate, the greater benefit you are getting by adding more. Granted you don't have all of the crit damage boost from abyssea, but the way people are arguing against crit rate is counter-intuitive.

lol, thats great and all. but nin just isn't the same without the critrate it gets from abyssea.

as i said before i would LOVE to see a non innin parse of a nin hitting (or even close to) 50% critrate outside abyssea. i have nin, i love nin, i use it in abyssea primarily, but outside it just doesnt make the cut for me. as for gearing for crit, you would have to drop dualwield/haste/DA/acc/etc which i honestly dont think is a fair tradeoff tbh.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-24 17:09:00
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Fenrir.Shishiza said:
Here's a quickone, Anguines, Shadow or Warwolf belt(Agi+1 augment herp) outside abyssea?

i'd Say Anguines because you might not hit pDIF cap. if you are then shadow belt.

edit - edited above statement to what i should have said.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-05-24 17:39:06
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Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Fenrir.Shishiza said:
Here's a quickone, Anguines, Shadow or Warwolf belt(Agi+1 augment herp) outside abyssea?

i'd Say Anguines because you might not hit fstr cap. if you are then shadow belt.
None of Anguinus' stats contribute to fSTR, so that has nothing to do with which is better. Warwolf is good if you're getting a lot of critrate from it (I use Cuch belt in certain situations for this very reason), otherwise I'd use Anguinus. If pDIF capped, then I'd look at Shadow Belt or Crudelis.
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By Fenrir.Shishiza 2011-05-24 18:15:55
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Fenrir.Shishiza said:
Here's a quickone, Anguines, Shadow or Warwolf belt(Agi+1 augment herp) outside abyssea?

i'd Say Anguines because you might not hit fstr cap. if you are then shadow belt.
None of Anguinus' stats contribute to fSTR, so that has nothing to do with which is better. Warwolf is good if you're getting a lot of critrate from it (I use Cuch belt in certain situations for this very reason), otherwise I'd use Anguinus. If pDIF capped, then I'd look at Shadow Belt or Crudelis.

Cheers again guys, and yeah I've been after a cuch belt for too long, I always seem to just miss it on the AH :(
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-05-24 18:16:57
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There's one on the AH right now! gogogo
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By Fenrir.Shishiza 2011-05-24 18:23:11
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
There's one on the AH right now! gogogo

Bleh someone's put the price up on it :<
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-05-24 19:07:39
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Fenrir.Shishiza said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
There's one on the AH right now! gogogo

Bleh someone's put the price up on it :<
Somebody always does, shell out! lol.
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-05-24 19:25:33
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Odin.Upbeat said:
This is what I use for outside abyssea.

TP:

Blade: Hi:

This is what you want. Caps dDEX on higher level mobs while still maintaining near capped haste.
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-25 00:16:13
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Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
What's up with all the crit rate hate outside abyssea? The lower your natural crit rate, the greater benefit you are getting by adding more. Granted you don't have all of the crit damage boost from abyssea, but the way people are arguing against crit rate is counter-intuitive.

lol, thats great and all. but nin just isn't the same without the critrate it gets from abyssea.

as i said before i would LOVE to see a non innin parse of a nin hitting (or even close to) 50% critrate outside abyssea. i have nin, i love nin, i use it in abyssea primarily, but outside it just doesnt make the cut for me. as for gearing for crit, you would have to drop dualwield/haste/DA/acc/etc which i honestly dont think is a fair tradeoff tbh.
You have 5% DW, Same haste, 3% DA, less acc than Upbeats set
He has worldzzzzzz more crit rate than u tho
brb redownloading kparser for you >.>
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-05-25 20:34:01
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Bahamut.Danthebk said:
Odin.Upbeat said:
This is what I use for outside abyssea.

TP:

Blade: Hi:

This is what you want. Caps dDEX on higher level mobs while still maintaining near capped haste.

Looks like capped haste to me, or is the new pseudo cap on haste 27%?
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-05-27 13:46:20
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Leviathan.Draugo said:
Bahamut.Danthebk said:
Odin.Upbeat said:
This is what I use for outside abyssea. TP: Blade: Hi:
This is what you want. Caps dDEX on higher level mobs while still maintaining near capped haste.
Looks like capped haste to me, or is the new pseudo cap on haste 27%?

My mistake, I was thinking Ocelot's gloves because I'm an lolElvaan.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kyler 2011-06-01 06:54:31
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Probably going to benefit more from the 8 attack on agayassa more than 2% crit DMG on Iga outside
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By Kaerin 2011-06-01 11:06:26
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When I originally brought the idea of this up on BG awhile ago, we decided the haidate/af3+2 shoes set was mithra onry =3

You also need to look into acquiring ancient torque, ocelot gloves, a dex/acc magaian katana and af1+1 body. Then parse everything and always watch acc and hit rate, and switch to what you need to cap acc and crit rate, if you can't its back to af3+2 pants and usukane shoes.
Yay~ for needing 20 sets of TP gear on NIN.

And seriously, 3% crit rate and 5 dex doesn't beat 20 att 3% DA for TP unless you need the dex to cap crit rate.

EDIT:::
This is also the set you want to TP in inside abyssea once you get crit damage 4 augment on haidate, regardless of race!

And here's my outside WS set.

Gonna work seiryus kote into it once I get crit rate 3% on them.
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By Leviathan.Michaelm 2011-06-05 06:21:20
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By Leviathan.Michaelm 2011-06-05 06:21:46
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By Leviathan.Michaelm 2011-06-05 06:30:05
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If your a gogo crits person.