Aegis + Burtgang Buff

Hoping they dont adjust the Aegis block rate.Not for any selfish reason or anything,its just the defining factor about whats the 2 shields.

To add to that, Atonement got pushed up to ~900 damage at 90 (with burtgang), so we should expect it to break 1k, and hopefully get up to near 12-1500 at 99. Not amazing, but add a few more JAs that lock hate, perhaps another WS to alternate with Atonement (between 300TP atonements to keep the OAT up), and it can be a pretty awesome combination.

You guys are acting like you have to pick between Ochain/Aegis/Almace/Burtgang though lol.

Last time I checked, I can swap between them as needed.

I got D ring and all the +2 pld stuff to cap my PDT, i'm all set. It really depends yeah, at least Aegis is up to par with Ochain now in some aspects.

Well... i'm not that good :p

I finished Almace and About to complete Ochain...

But before i work on even more stuff for myself, i want to make sure my other LS members get some nice things too :).

I don't think i'll ever own Aegis or Burtgang...

so i guess if that makes me less of a paladin i understand x.x

Speaking from a White Mages perspective I would much rather my PLD taking no physical Damage whatsoever (Ochain) and only have to dump a cure VI on them when they are taking a nuke. There is no magical spell in the game that is so dangerous that its going to one shot a Tank.

The new Aegis buff is far from amazing :/

Ochain is still vastly superior to Aegis by miles.

SE try harder thx.

Death is a magical spell that can 1 shot a PLD easy :x

Speaking of which,I need my shadow ring ;-;

Touche, but also very easy to stun. Not impressed with this update at all.

*** a Shadow Ring
Rock some Atma of the Einherjar <.<

Its a nice buff, aegis that is, for those who already have it, but I think someone who is deciding to pick between the two are still going to go with ochain. Like a said, its a nice change, but not as game changing as some seem to make it out to be.

brb using Atma of the Einherjar in Dynamis Windurst when pulling the boss......wait....oh....

Is dynamis hard again!?

Better idea, don't waste an atma slot.

Agree with Gradd, it's nice for Aegis owners but I think Ochain still takes the cake.

Guess the <.< wasn't a good enough indicator of sarcasm.

Where/when isnt the point.

The fact is that the spell is there where the atma isnt.

I dont even know why this is a topic to discuss, lol. Not like Aegis is going to help block Death.

AV's Meteor would like a word with you (as would CS Aeroga4).

Astral Flow also would like a word.

Fulmination says hi.

His friend Nerve gas shakes his fist as well for being left off the list (the move that kept taking out the Ochain Pld we had on it last time, though only occasionally when it would turn too fast and use back to back).

Citidal Buster (for what it's worth lol) /waves to everyone.

Pretty much every move in the game that had the chance to really hurt people/alliances is solved via high lvls of Magic Damage Negation. The other few serious *** (??? needles) aren't fixed by Ochain either.

Melee damage was never really a problem on any end game NM, anywhere. It's the stupid Magic Based AoE/WSs that were always the trouble.

Or are you guys somehow having a problem taking too much melee damage? My *** whm can straight tank half the ***in this game, it's the special abilities/magic that costs lives.

Thank you for saying that lol.


Hundred Fists says Hello
Meikyo shisui says yo
Mighty Strikes says "nice to meet cha!"

On top of that, there are bar-spells and carols for incredibly difficult aoe magic spells.

Is there AoE-phsyical bar?

I guess phalanx...

And let's not forget the tyrant bubbly bernie...




srsly...

About time

Edit: @ Neo's post

I survive Astral Flow all the time from varying NMs without even getting my MDT on in time.And I'm a taru

Edit: this isnt a "my pld is better than yours!" contest

/offtopic

Fixed.

AV is considered a threat? I thought we Alexander Zerged that now? Pretty sure PLD isnt considered a part of that setup~

Astral flow is only dangerous in dynamis if your group sucks, and guess what you dont bring a PLD there either.

I'd rather have a MNK tanking a Khim when it comes to Fulm, and its not that hard to stun.

Citadel Buster? Ive tanked Ultima hundreds of times, never been one shotted even on lights day. A good MDT set always made it cake.

Trust me I like PLD I mained it for years, but I think Aegis deserves a MUCH higher buff than this, SE has failed once again. Aegis deserves to be superior to Ochain but its not.

I was arguing against the ridiculous "magic never hurts" statement the guy made, when magic AoE was pretty much the only thing that hurt in big fights.

As for his list of HF, Mighty Strikes, Etc: None of these were ever challenging to deal with (especially after the Sentinel Buff). The only "physical" thing that can still lvl a decent Pld (or any melee) is an Eagle Eye Shot (if you're not in the right gear set).

Don't be confused, I'm not arguing the utility of Pld over other jobs, or that Aegis is better than Ochain, I'm simply saying people's assessment of "melee being dangerous" is an exaggeration. If you were dying to Mighty Strikes/HF/etc, you were doing it wrong.

However I will say Ochain kicks the ***out of Aegis on mass crowd control (10-15 things hitting you at once).


AV is zerged because people still can't get past Meteor without PD. This may or may not change that.

Astral Flow happens, and is an example, one of about 300 in game things that (if goes off) can cause a lot of pain. Stop pretending it's any more rare than being caught off guard with Hundred Fists/etc. Also, if you've ever eating 9 Astral Flows from Pandemonium Warden, you wouldn't be saying that.

Citadel Buster: Again, just an example of "the most damaging aspect of a fight being magic", even if it's laughable to someone prepared.

As for your "use other tanks on other things", you're still missing the point, shall I slow it down for you?

i r chica though ; ;

No girls on the internet, etc.

Yall just pissed i look better getting beat the hell out of huh?

I have sex with my wife daily and she's played FFXI for several years now. I still don't believe that there are women on the internet.

was this some sort of confession of homosexuality?

ITs A TARP!


no serious - use Ochain when you want to go pure block and aegis for Kitting or NMs like Rani where (when not brewed at 50 % ...) his constant magic's are most probably more of a pain than his physical hits anyway - situational is situational - Im glad the relics got something on the way to look forward to.