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Dragua Strategy as mnk
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-18 18:50:18
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
it's pimpchan, isn't that proof enough?
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-04-18 18:50:58
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
Why don't you have your level 90 vere yet i sthe real question, you failed to beat 40 times the easy Dragua (according to you and your troll friends) in the spam of 5 months. Suck less is all I can say. Looks like you can't duo it eaither am I right ¿
He has them u fool.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-18 18:58:29
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: I just find it funny how the discussion went to full usu because you all lost the earth resist argument. Also didn't see that goddamn video of mnk/war + whm duo. I wonder how many tried and failed!
Nobody argued against Earth Resist set preventing more damage. People argued with the following points;
1. you NEED Earth Resist to duo Dragua
2. that it is not inventory efficient to carry an earth resist set
- though you did provide a valid counter-argument to this
Number 2 has been largely covered, so all that remains is objection 1. Objection 1 is what are you claiming and in the same breath claiming MNK/WAR + WHM cannot duo Dragua (reliably). People aren't shifting away from the argument, just that they have nothing to add at this stage without providing evidence. Video evidence is irritating because Fraps is a space ***, but surely there is someone on Leviathan who'll gladly show how it is done?
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-04-18 18:58:41
Sylph.Krsone said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
Why don't you have your level 90 vere yet i sthe real question, you failed to beat 40 times the easy Dragua (according to you and your troll friends) in the spam of 5 months. Suck less is all I can say. Looks like you can't duo it eaither am I right ¿
He has them u fool.
Lol look at all the spelling mistakes he made, you know he's mad!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-18 19:05:24
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
Why don't you have your level 90 vere yet i sthe real question, you failed to beat 40 times the easy Dragua (according to you and your troll friends) in the spam of 5 months. Suck less is all I can say. Looks like you can't duo it eaither am I right ¿ Do you know how little often I play? I'm on like 9 hours a week(if that).
I actually had to log in now just to shut you up.
K, logging off again.
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Lakshmi.Seoha
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By Lakshmi.Seoha 2011-04-18 19:07:20
Inb4 full usu + haste takes time to proc!!!
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-04-18 19:11:57
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-18 19:12:07
Asura.Arkanethered said: Derp takes time to proc. Apparently not
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-18 19:14:19
Omg you forgot to black out your gil, so gonna get hacked now.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-18 19:14:40
Asura.Arkanethered said: Derp takes time to proc.
Yeah wish that were true, we might not have seen or heard of pimpchan for a little longer :(
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-18 19:20:03
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Omg you forgot to black out your gil, so gonna get hacked now. Only retards do that ***. I want to hack them every time I see it just to see how much they have.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-18 19:20:51
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Omg you forgot to black out your gil, so gonna get hacked now. Only retards do that ***. I want to hack them every time I see it just to see how much they have.
Indeed :p
I think most people do it because they'r afraid people are gonna laugh at low amounts of gil anyways <_>
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-18 19:22:42
I want ballista :(
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-04-18 19:36:40
So do I Raen, I feel as though I would ruin most people. Punishing LS mates is oh so fun.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-18 19:45:09
Only *** w/ 90 ballista is all the DW jobs w/ dual eva magian weapons. Can't hit them for ***.
Lol, ***is annoying as ***, have to load up on all acc ***and still have piss horrible acc, can't play w/ my old defensive out the *** build anymore.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-04-18 22:20:59
Nobody on Bahamut does Ballista it seems :( I miss it, I'd wager PLD/RDM still works.
Edit: On topic, I don't use earth set nor a full MDT set, don't have issues unless WHM get petrified, so I'd really only recommend one for the WHM (though again useless if a second stona source is available).
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-18 23:10:12
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Only *** w/ 90 ballista is all the DW jobs w/ dual eva magian weapons. Can't hit them for ***.
Lol, ***is annoying as ***, have to load up on all acc ***and still have piss horrible acc, can't play w/ my old defensive out the *** build anymore.
Could argue that it adds a level of balance to it, cause defensive gear MNK was pretty unstoppable etc.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-18 23:13:56
I always liked blu for ballista... could kill people before I could even engage them lol
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-18 23:16:27
omg how r u so rich??
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-04-18 23:23:07
Leviathan.Draylo said: omg how r u so rich??
ur gearz isso uberz, how comez u not numberz 1????!!!11!!?!
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-04-18 23:26:05
I think I made 15m by soloing +2 mobs and selling drops in about 3 days...money is easy nowadays
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By Bismarck.Azagthothe 2011-04-19 00:44:24
Bismarck.Raistlinratt said: I think I made 15m by soloing +2 mobs and selling drops in about 3 days...money is easy nowadays
I should start selling drops; I usually end up giving away stuff for free if people need it. Even if I do make any agreement to sell something I usually end up caving and giving it away for free anyway, because it'll rot otherwise.
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-04-19 04:25:41
Bismarck.Azagthothe said: Bismarck.Raistlinratt said: I think I made 15m by soloing +2 mobs and selling drops in about 3 days...money is easy nowadays
I should start selling drops; I usually end up giving away stuff for free if people need it. Even if I do make any agreement to sell something I usually end up caving and giving it away for free anyway, because it'll rot otherwise.
i gave away about 10m worth of items also lol. Either by selling for half price for friends of friends, or giving free to friends.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-04-19 05:37:56
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
Why don't you have your level 90 vere yet i sthe real question, you failed to beat 40 times the easy Dragua (according to you and your troll friends) in the spam of 5 months. Suck less is all I can say. Looks like you can't duo it eaither am I right ¿ Do you know how little often I play? I'm on like 9 hours a week(if that).
I actually had to log in now just to shut you up.
K, logging off again.
It only took 10 months, congrats I guess. Still no video though, I'm sad and checking youtube I don't find anything either. Don't you feel contradiction between claiming dragua is easy to dual box, chloris taking you 50 min to pop and only getting this weapon now (because ffxiah lists you with 85 still so it has to be recent).
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-19 05:43:19
I don't see where you're getting 10 months at. If you're counting time that I wasn't even pursuing them, sure, but then you've taken longer than me. 2 and a half weeks for Chloris, 3 days for Ulhuadshi and the only one I took my time w/ cause I didn't give a ***and stopped playing consistently was Dragua, which was like 2 months, and half of one of those months was servers down due to earthquake.
But if you want to count it as 10, then you've taken even longer than me, still in full usu, no epona's, and still not done w/ them, so you're one to talk, since you obviously ain't got ***done in that same 10 month time frame.
Though, I do realize you're trolling, because nobody can be that HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, so I can appreciate that, at least.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-04-19 05:48:39
Did you duo whm+ mnk/war ?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-19 05:51:23
When nobody else was on and I felt like getting scales, sure. The entire thing? Nope. I wasn't doing a "oh let me dual box an emp for fun" I ended up dual boxing mainly Chloris, because I had little help.
Since Ulhua and Dragua have other ***ppl actually want, didn't have to do too many scales duo, maybe 15-20 of them? A good number came from af3 pick up pts I joined and nobody wanted scales, and some from ls.
Again, its been 10 months man, where's your ***, why are you still in full usu, etc since you like to measure time so much.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-19 06:13:55
Is it really THAT hard to belive someone can do something you can't, pimpchan?
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By Bismarck.Rinkydink 2011-04-19 06:21:37
Pimpchan.. i think the issue we have is that tiger is clearly a more superior mnk than you and actually has a lot of respect of wannabe mnk who actually want to take notice and advice from him.
People actually look at you and laugh.. according to your profile.. Abyssea is for gimplets.. yet you seem to have trouble being elite in there ?
quite interesting really
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-04-19 06:35:38
Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Pimpchan said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Why would I ws in usu legs, lol. Also, Epona's ring doesn't take much time at all. I don't know why you don't already have one.
Why don't you have your level 90 vere yet i sthe real question, you failed to beat 40 times the easy Dragua (according to you and your troll friends) in the spam of 5 months. Suck less is all I can say. Looks like you can't duo it eaither am I right ¿ Do you know how little often I play? I'm on like 9 hours a week(if that).
I actually had to log in now just to shut you up.
K, logging off again.
It only took 10 months, congrats I guess. Still no video though, I'm sad and checking youtube I don't find anything either. Don't you feel contradiction between claiming dragua is easy to dual box, chloris taking you 50 min to pop and only getting this weapon now (because ffxiah lists you with 85 still so it has to be recent). Sylph.Tigerwoods said: I don't see where you're getting 10 months at. If you're counting time that I wasn't even pursuing them, sure, but then you've taken longer than me. 2 and a half weeks for Chloris, 3 days for Ulhuadshi and the only one I took my time w/ cause I didn't give a ***and stopped playing consistently was Dragua, which was like 2 months, and half of one of those months was servers down due to earthquake.
But if you want to count it as 10, then you've taken even longer than me, still in full usu, no epona's, and still not done w/ them, so you're one to talk, since you obviously ain't got ***done in that same 10 month time frame.
Though, I do realize you're trolling, because nobody can be that HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, so I can appreciate that, at least.
How the *** do you keep your cool Tiger? the guy is a *** prat. Makes me wanna slap him for your sake. "Only took 10 months congrats I guess" you are the ultimate troll I really do believe so, constantly wanting to get ppls backs up thing is you're probably too dumb to even get a kick out of it.
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Was wondering if any Mnks who dual/triple box'd their dragua scales could give me any tips on how to go about doing Dragua. Haven't fought him yet, but i have access to 2 whm mules and 1 blm mule (for procing). I figured i'd go mnk/war and straight tank, but looking for advice from people who have actually killed it by themselves without brew.
I could use a lot of brews, but if i can do it without em, would be better.
Which atmas, food, buffs, JAs (counterstance?), etc should i use. I don't have his atma, the one that gives 100 earth resist, maybe I should brew him til i get it and then can straight fight it?
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Edit: Updated with relevant info so you don't have to read 12 pages to figure it all out.
If you are comfortable fighting this guy with /war (your mule or whm can react fast or have another outside range). RR, GH, Apoc are suggested atmas to speed up the fight. Could get in trouble if your whm gets petrified.
If you aren't comfortable fighting him /war I would suggest play it safe and get accustomed to the fight by going /nin for first time kill (IF you are alone - dual box) (flame all you want, its nice to be able to get used to the mob and what it does first).
Don't forget to use Fanatic's Powder, since he drops it 100% to everyone in ally. If you have a lot of people, you can all bunch up on him, kick his butt, and rotated fana powders. Will help speed it up.
for brewing, the best atmas for Cataclysm are Cosmos, Smiting Blow, and either Griffon's claw or Ultimate depending on which you have. It is highly recommended to have a mule or friend open a skillchain for you while brewing. Cyclone > Cataclysm takes it down to like 30% health, so really speeds it up and allows you to get 7-8 dragua per brew. Lock yourself on martello, SE said its fine so far.
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