Sanity is defined by those who deem others insane and are dictated by the social norms of the said society.
Sanity and normalcy are made up averages that the man try to convince you to adhere to.
JK.
Sanity is a societal things, you can attribute some of what it is to the long arm behind the scenes, but much of it's propagated by either ignorance or what is currently being accepted as a whole.
Technically homosexuality is something that would have been deemed insane in yester-years.
Maybe in the upcoming future I can be a robo-sexual and be accepted for my non-standard sexual orientation.
also, for the dumb dumbs, italicized for a reason.
I'm glad my parents gave me the freedom of choice @_@
and I chose to have no religion, not even atheist or agnostic
people always try to argue with me about it "You can't be nothing...you just can't...you must at least be agnostic..." mmmm nope, I'm nothing, why can I be nothing? Because I said so :D my life to live the way I want to, and I don't oppress others with my views, neither should others with different beliefs
By definition, atheism has 0 to do with pressing your views onto someone. It's simply a word used to describe someone who doesn't believe there are deities.
If you don't believe there are any gods, then you fall under this category. To me, that's not a religion, it's a simple definition, and you fit it.
If you don't believe in any gods, then simply saying "I'm not atheist" does as much for you as me saying "I can be anything I want, and I'm not black. Why? Because I said so"
Well I guess I meant I have no religious definition if you put it that way, but I'll tell you what I tell others, I don't fall under the category of atheist/agnostic. From my perspective, or, if you will, in my world, religion simply doesn't exist, there is no such thing to me, not the fact that I don't believe in any of it, but the fact that I don't recognize it as something tangible (for lack of a better word) in life. But again, thats just me
and I didn't mean to make it seem like I think atheists force their views on other, was just making a point that I don't force mine, and neither should anyone else
QQ and troll me all you want (talking to anyone not you specifically tiger :P) but this is how I live, nothings gonna stop it
from link:
An apatheist is also someone who is not interested in accepting or denying any claims that gods exist or do not exist. In other words, an apatheist is someone who considers the question of the existence of gods as neither meaningful nor relevant to his or her life.
Now, if you just think all religions don't actually exist, then you are living in some kind of alternate reality. Religions exist. It doesn't mean that you need to believe in them, or adhere to their principles, or anything in that nature. You can argue that the basis for their existence is flawed, but it doesn't change the fact that they exist.
Yes I read the wiki page, I don't really feel like going into full detail of what I mean not only because it would be taxing on me, but it would probably spark a tl;dr
I'm not saying that religions don't exist, its obvious they do, but rather that they aren't part of life as far as I'm concerned, that link is very close to describing me but its still off, I'm sure theres something somewhere thats supposed to be able to define it but even if there was, it still wouldn't define me, to some I may seem crazy from all this, but it's because each person is so unique that definitions for all of this are completely inaccurate.
Sanity is defined by those who deem others insane and are dictated by the social norms of the said society. Sanity and normalcy are made up averages that the man try to convince you to adhere to. JK. Sanity is a societal things, you can attribute some of what it is to the long arm behind the scenes, but much of it's propagated by either ignorance or what is currently being accepted as a whole. Technically homosexuality is something that would have been deemed insane in yester-years. Maybe in the upcoming future I can be a robo-sexual and be accepted for my non-standard sexual orientation. also, for the dumb dumbs, italicized for a reason.
I know where you're going with this and it's a popular belief. However, as a history teacher and student of life, this is not the case. Society defines good and evil. Homosexuality was not only accepted in some of our anchient cultures, but practiced as a fundamental standard. Anchient Greece, where your "passage of manhood" depended upon your fonification with the same sex; where copulation with women was for breeding purposes only.
A mere 100 years ago, in this very country, if you were a 16 year old girl, and not married, something was wrong with you.
Society changes. It evolves.
Sanity is defined by those who deem others insane and are dictated by the social norms of the said society. Sanity and normalcy are made up averages that the man try to convince you to adhere to. JK. Sanity is a societal things, you can attribute some of what it is to the long arm behind the scenes, but much of it's propagated by either ignorance or what is currently being accepted as a whole. Technically homosexuality is something that would have been deemed insane in yester-years. Maybe in the upcoming future I can be a robo-sexual and be accepted for my non-standard sexual orientation. also, for the dumb dumbs, italicized for a reason.
I know where you're going with this and it's a popular belief. However, as a history teacher and student of life, this is not the case. Society defines good and evil. Homosexuality was not only accepted in some of our anchient cultures, but practiced as a fundamental standard. Anchient Greece, where your "passage of manhood" depended upon your fonification with the same sex; where copulation with women was for breeding purposes only.
A mere 100 years ago, in this very country, if you were a 16 year old girl, and not married, something was wrong with you.
Society changes. It evolves.
where am i going with this?
point out what specific part you disagree with, also if you removed that specific part would you disagree with what I had to say at that point?
If so(on what I bolded) I don't really think you know where I'm going with this.
So elaborate on what you think I am thinking and maybe we can come to a better understanding here.
if you are talking about this line:
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Technically homosexuality is something that would have been deemed insane in yester-years.
of course you can bring up ancient greece.
but my understanding of timelines does not attribute ancient greece equaling yester-year.
if you wanted you can attribute yesterday to be more like a century if you will...or even last year lol
i think you just jumped the gun and *** U MED too much.
Everyone needs something to believe in, have faith in, or life is pointless. You may not believe in god but the belief in nothing is still a form of faith. I would say those who live their lives the way they want to have a faith in living.
This is the life we were given to live and live it as you choose. Do not judge the way others live it for that is their choice. As the crazy *** said in another video "we were given free will".
As for her being sincere or not, I can't say for sure. In some of her videos she had mannerisms that would say she doesn't believe the things she is saying, but there are other times she completely believes every word. Either way, I think her video showed us a little bit of who each of us really is and what we really think, feel, and believe.
Meh, but that is just as bad as religious nuts forcing their ways on everyone,,
considering insanity shouldn't be allowed to practice, no.
Everyone has a right to believe any insanity they wish. They do not have a right to be respected or taken seriously though.
You can not ban an idea. No matter how idiotic.
the shouldn't have the right to practice it and spread it to others. It's called being a danger to the general public, they have places for those kind of crazy.
Only fundamentalists and fanatics are a danger to the general public. They are not only spawned in religion.
Once again, stupid or not you can not ban an idea.
then why do they lock the other crazy people up who are a danger to society?
I pose to you this thought. Everyone needs something to believe in, have faith in, or life is pointless. You may not believe in god but the belief in nothing is still a form of faith. I would say those who live their lives the way they want to have a faith in living. This is the life we were given to live and live it as you choose. Do not judge the way others live it for that is their choice. As the crazy *** said in another video "we were given free will". As for her being sincere or not, I can't say for sure. In some of her videos she had mannerisms that would say she doesn't believe the things she is saying, but there are other times she completely believes every word. Either way, I think her video showed us a little bit of who each of us really is and what we really think, feel, and believe.
it's so awesome when stupid people try to wax philosophical and come across as wise
your second premise is arguable therefore your conclusion is not absolute
I'm not saying ban the idea of religion, I'm saying ban people from spreading it to children (if adults want to be allowed to be delusional let them) and allowing them to practice it in public.
your second premise is arguable therefore your conclusion is not absolute
I'm not saying ban the idea of religion, I'm saying ban people from spreading it to children (if adults want to be allowed to be delusional let them) and allowing them to practice it in public.
Neither of your premises are factual, which means that you can't use that logic to prove your final statement.
1. Not all religious people are crazy.
2. Not all crazy people are a danger to society.
(It also comes down to the definition you use for crazy, which is widely varying in today's colloquial uses.)
Meh, but that is just as bad as religious nuts forcing their ways on everyone,,
considering insanity shouldn't be allowed to practice, no.
Everyone has a right to believe any insanity they wish. They do not have a right to be respected or taken seriously though.
You can not ban an idea. No matter how idiotic.
the shouldn't have the right to practice it and spread it to others. It's called being a danger to the general public, they have places for those kind of crazy.
Only fundamentalists and fanatics are a danger to the general public. They are not only spawned in religion.
Once again, stupid or not you can not ban an idea.
then why do they lock the other crazy people up who are a danger to society?
religious people are no different.
Stop trying to brand religious people as that.
You know you can not ban an idea yet you won't *** admit it and dance around saying they are a danger to society.
How (now brown cow) are they a danger to society?
Depends on what you mean by "danger". I feel like they're mentally dangerous to the people around them or the ones that follow them, at least the fanatics. I'm talking Westboro and ***. Those are rare cases, I know, but they pop up and are good lulz for the first half of their bit and then just annoying for the last half. Picketing funerals is detrimental to everyone involved with the funeral, and also potential dangerous due to rage. How they loop-hole their way through the courts with that ***is beyond me, but it shouldn't be allowed. To use an old and tired example: CULTS. Charlie Manson. other such things. too tired to list them all right now. same ***. one idea spawns a group of people, one of them usually the insane one that eventually turns everybody else insane.
but, athiests have done some pretty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE group-think ***too, so *** IT.
WE'LL DO IT LIVE.
also
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
religious people are crazy.
crazy people are a danger to society.
religious people are a danger to society.
god is love.
love is blind.
god is blind.
also, Stevie Wonder is blind. Stevie Wonder is God.
I think this is what you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
Not sure though. been a while since i've read about all those.
your second premise is arguable therefore your conclusion is not absolute
I'm not saying ban the idea of religion, I'm saying ban people from spreading it to children (if adults want to be allowed to be delusional let them) and allowing them to practice it in public.
Neither of your premises are factual, which means that you can't use that logic to prove your final statement.
1. Not all religious people are crazy.
2. Not all crazy people are a danger to society.
(It also comes down to the definition you use for crazy, which is widely varying in today's colloquial uses.)
all religious people are crazy, sometimes with multiple definitions
all crazy people pose an inherit danger to society even if not immanent.
your second premise is arguable therefore your conclusion is not absolute
I'm not saying ban the idea of religion, I'm saying ban people from spreading it to children (if adults want to be allowed to be delusional let them) and allowing them to practice it in public.
Neither of your premises are factual, which means that you can't use that logic to prove your final statement.
1. Not all religious people are crazy.
2. Not all crazy people are a danger to society.
(It also comes down to the definition you use for crazy, which is widely varying in today's colloquial uses.)
all religious people are crazy, sometimes with multiple definitions
all crazy people pose an inherit danger to society even if not immanent.
The biggest problem with religious people is them abusing children by brainwashing them with the crap.
Sadly, they still are entitled to their ideas (YET AGAIN) stupid or not.
I'm not saying we should go imprison them for having their ideas, I'm saying we should prosecute the crazy *** for brainwashing others into their delusions.
Also stop with the "you should respect them" garbage.
your second premise is arguable therefore your conclusion is not absolute
I'm not saying ban the idea of religion, I'm saying ban people from spreading it to children (if adults want to be allowed to be delusional let them) and allowing them to practice it in public.
Neither of your premises are factual, which means that you can't use that logic to prove your final statement.
1. Not all religious people are crazy.
2. Not all crazy people are a danger to society.
(It also comes down to the definition you use for crazy, which is widely varying in today's colloquial uses.)
all religious people are crazy, sometimes with multiple definitions
all crazy people pose an inherit danger to society even if not immanent.
Still not true. By definition, crazy doesn't mean that you pose a threat or danger to society. Even a mentally deranged person doesn't inherently pose a threat to society. That's the difference between putting someone in jail vs. putting someone in a mental hospital. Non-crazy murderers go to jail/prison. Crazy murderers who will likely murder again go to jail/prison. Other crazy people will likely be put in a mental hospital.
Are all religious people crazy murderers who will likely murder again? Nope.
And if you say that, "Well, that's not imminent, but will still pose a 'threat' to society." You can say the same about technology. Technology has given us the means to completely destroy ourselves in hours time. It certainly is a threat to society, however, if asked what someone thinks about technology, that's not going to be the first thing on their mind.
Your logic is simply flawed. I'd be 100% on board with you if you had a well-formed logical statement, but you don't, so I can't possibly agree with you.
EDIT: Also, you haven't addressed the fact that not all religious people are crazy. Some may be following a path with clear logical purpose. "I want this hot Christian chick, so I'll be Christian." or "I want my kids to be raised with good morals, so I'll teach them Christianity in hopes of making them good people." Misguided maybe, but that's certainly not a 'crazy' thing for a sane person to think.
I disagree. Also I was saying more of they belong in a mental ward, not saying they belong in prison (although some probably need maximum security ward)
I'm sorry if you can't follow my statements but I'm not going to sit here and put that much effort into it.
as for your edit, those aren't religious people. Saying you're something doesn't make you something. As for christian morals being "good" that's definitely not a logical or sane conclusion.