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 Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-03-10 08:16:07
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
yet you'd be willing to kill babies with abortion?

i find that uncivil and barbaric

and i mean in war innocents die and that is seen as acceptable in most cases


a fetus isn't a baby.

War usually serves a purpose, the death penalty does not.

it's still that person though

so you're killing a person and that is barbaric and uncivil

and the death penalty serves a purpose

it shows that we punish those who commit murder and other bad stuff like that
Cause being dead is such a punishment right? The person can't feel their punishment then anymore. Why kill them, that is boring. Btw, question @ religious ppl. Are you pro death penalty?
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-10 08:17:07
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Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
yet you'd be willing to kill babies with abortion?

i find that uncivil and barbaric

and i mean in war innocents die and that is seen as acceptable in most cases


a fetus isn't a baby.

War usually serves a purpose, the death penalty does not.

it's still that person though

so you're killing a person and that is barbaric and uncivil

and the death penalty serves a purpose

it shows that we punish those who commit murder and other bad stuff like that
Cause being dead is such a punishment right? The person can't feel their punishment then anymore. Why kill them, that is boring. Btw, question @ religious ppl. Are you pro death penalty?

when i say death i don't say painless

i mean like keep em alive and in pain for days
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-10 08:20:51
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
yet you'd be willing to kill babies with abortion?

i find that uncivil and barbaric

and i mean in war innocents die and that is seen as acceptable in most cases


a fetus isn't a baby.

War usually serves a purpose, the death penalty does not.

it's still that person though

so you're killing a person and that is barbaric and uncivil

and the death penalty serves a purpose

it shows that we punish those who commit murder and other bad stuff like that
no, just no.
person:
per·son
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–noun
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a human being, whether man, woman, or child: The table seats four persons.

human being

–noun
1.
any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.

unless you're trying to say undeveloped non self sustaining mixed male and female human dna constitutes as a human being, which would just be laughable. Go jerk off on a used tampon and trash it after you poke it with a hanger, it's about the same thing.

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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-03-10 08:21:22
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Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Lolserj said:
yet you'd be willing to kill babies with abortion?

i find that uncivil and barbaric

and i mean in war innocents die and that is seen as acceptable in most cases


a fetus isn't a baby.

War usually serves a purpose, the death penalty does not.

it's still that person though

so you're killing a person and that is barbaric and uncivil

and the death penalty serves a purpose

it shows that we punish those who commit murder and other bad stuff like that
Cause being dead is such a punishment right? The person can't feel their punishment then anymore. Why kill them, that is boring. Btw, question @ religious ppl. Are you pro death penalty?

when i say death i don't say painless

i mean like keep em alive and in pain for days

that is exactly why I called you uncivil and barbaric.
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By Asura.Olue 2011-03-11 00:22:08
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I don't think for most people in jail that jail is punishment. They get to hang out with other people with similar tastes and interests. They get free food, shelter, medical treatment, entertainment, education, etc.

If someone kills one of my family members, how is it justice to make me pay for their bills for their tenure in jail? How is that balancing the scales? They kill someone close to me, I have to live with that pain for the rest of my life, and then pay the murderer's bills for however long they're locked up.

Career criminals don't receive any punishment for their crimes, because to them jail isn't a punishment. It's a playground and an escape from responsibility.

If we really wanted to punish someone by taking away 20 years of their life away, lock them up in a room by themselves where they can't talk to any other prisoner.
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-03-11 00:52:57
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I thought this was a thread about the COR mythic weapon. What a let down :(
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By Artemicion 2011-03-11 05:46:39
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It's a tough call.
Decades ago we had asylums and institutions to maintain and keep criminally insane and insane in general people out of society and off the streets. These were tax funded of course, and as the years progressed, the priority for such institutions and programs decreased and inevitably vanished. So it's no surprise there's a significant surge of crime or violence in present day America. The problem is, we have a default solution of tossing them in prison for 20+ years which costs everyone more in the long run, or we simply stick a needle in their arm and call it justice. If that wasn't bad enough, it takes on average 17+ years to sit on death row til you're actually in the chair thanks to appeals.

So in the end we have a big waste of money and unnecessary death with more crazies roaming the streets. /le sigh
Wish I had a practical solution or idea for such misfortune, but alas, I honestly have nothing to bring to the table other than dark realities.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-03-11 06:55:18
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It's a tough call really. At times I'm for and at times I'm against. Our entire criminal justice system is flawed so something as definite as death is going to cause problems. What if we kill an innocent person? That's a mistake you can't fix. Best way we have right now to keep that from happening is to not kill anyone. However I think just locking people up in a small room for 23 hours a day for the rest of their life isn't helping either.

I've always wondered why we just lock these people away without making them do SOMETHING to help society. Taxpayers pay for the meals and roof over their heads. The least they could be doing is working for us. Just dropping them off in a cell isn't going to help them nor help us.
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By Leviathan.Donwu 2011-03-14 01:15:55
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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An eye for an Eye, If you kill , we feed you to a shark. with friggen lazers on their heads.

But isn't killing barbaric? Are we any better if we stoop to their levels?

immediate fail: missing an austin powers reference.
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By Leviathan.Donwu 2011-03-14 01:18:26
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i agree with the death penalty only in a government financial way. if we didnt have to pay so much for each individual inmate then no im good. let homie eat bad cheese and rope his soap. lower the cost we pay to keep them in? fo sho.