TP Advice

how much STP does it take for the delay on ukon to get 5/6hit? if 6 hit, whats an optimal haste set up to go with it? i was thinking this:



feel free to improve, etc. yeah its a dream, but it could happen, sometday z-z

WAR can't use brisk mask :(

Need 14 sTP to hit a 6 hit with /SAM.

tiara hands/body/legs/feet af3+2 goading belt

you need tactical mantle and some other stuff like moonshade earring with regain to get a 5hit

I might even be overshooting STP needed, but by a minimal margin.

overshooting just a little bit. I use that set with ravager's earring and gorget /nin in abyssea and it works fine as a 5hit with VV. could ease up /sam obviously, but I can't remember the last time I was able to go /sam D:

How are you 5 hitting that /nin...
Edit: Oh, VV... still though, hm

oo didnt notice about the brisk mask pardon my fail, how do you 5hit as /nin? VV regain isnt -that- great

I believe it's 2/tic, giving 10~12 TP between 0 and 100%, meaning you only need ~90 (at the most, I don't get to play my WAR that much, so maybe less).

Assuming you need 90TP, you need 18/hit. Solanis said they used the same itemset Sheelay posted, but with WAR earring and neck (so I'm going to -3STP for that), giving a total of +50STP. This makes for 19.5/hit according to FFCalc.

Assuming you're getting Haste + 2 marches, you'll be swinging approximately every 3 seconds (at the same time you'll get a TP tic from VV), giving approximately 21.5TP/hit~

Not sure what you call a 5 hit but that setup is nowhere near it /NIN assuming 3 ticks of regain, and in my experience 3 is unreliable and only 2 should be relied on assuming you're actually getting buffs. Included Moonshade ticks as well before you ask.

Also unless it has enstun/enpetrify/*** named Mananagganal/Indrik etc. what are you fighting you can't /SAM for?

EDIT: it's not 50 STP, it's only 37 /NIN.

I stand corrected for non-lowman play! I don't have a bard 99% of the time, so my only buff is haste. under those conditions, it's enough, but with any more haste, you're correct, it isn't. for me, assuming only two ticks of regain is absurd, and even with marches you're still looking at slightly over 9 seconds of tp phase assuming one DA, so saying 3 ticks is unreliable isn't quite relying on the math either. that being said, with the two minor changes, it's still not enough /nin but if you do stuff with a linkshell, /sam should be a very viable luxury along with the bard and my suggested set will of course always work.

I've tanked almost everything in abyssea as war/nin, /sam I'd bleed out. in my experience, the heroes mobs hit a little too hard to make it a non-stressful or impossible experience for the healer... but yeah, you are definitely right about the 5-hit under average conditions.

Oops, I forgot XIAH activates all Latents in itemsets ><;

Heroes mobs I can excuse, almost anything in Scars/Heroes /Sam has worked well enough for me unless I got disgorged for 5k... was in a bad spot and stunner had RL issues.

I had issues with adding TA in the mix due to Apoc/over TP rounds, but 3 ticks probably does work; I do occasionally have a Brd however. I'll rework math for VV assuming 3 ticks but I typically assumed the best scenario for buffs JIC. It's just in PUG I don't even get haste... or cures (and I'm the one tanking) ><

If you have Ukon, and only +1 war af3 legs and feet, there's something wrong somewhere.

I don't agree. Ukon may be the primary objective, as it is for me, before the other gear. I buffed out my THF first, to accommodate lowmanning and the items for Ukon. Once Ukon is unlocked, I'll be blitzing the rest of the gear.

Ukon is the biggest improvement but +2 in Scars areas aren't hard to get. Can do them in your not living in Tahrongi/Chasm time.

inb4lols

this is what i currently have for TP, its average i guess, id like to get +2 stuff, but i cant ever seem to find the help to do so on anything. LS on assura arent entirely into helping from what ive seen. though if anyone wants a war; i help if im helped in return :p. /tell me and maybe we can get something mutually beneficial going!

._. not a 5hit, and thusly no reason to use Attila's earring or a hoard ring, let alone a Belenos' Mantle. 6hit should be obtainable with Rajas+Brutal+Cchain(5+1+1, meaining you could swap out Cchain for Ravager's neck, and use Attila's earring). In my experience 5hit is rather difficult to obtain, especially without even +1 AF3 body (or lolaskar if you're that desperate).


I currently use this, which is and has been a 6hit for a very long time(Since before I had +1 body). Capped haste minus the .29% (according to ffxicalc) that a 600k+ Blitz ring would get me, or sacrificing the set bonus of those gloves along with the restraint bonus fulltime(or as fulltime as I can make it) by using perle hands... bleh.

Anyway the point is you could make some very easy upgrades, namely being dusk gloves, keen ring (or blitz ring if you go all out, you'll probably want one in the end anyway) Centarus earring(the one with +10 attack) and a Forager's mantle. Further improving the set would be +2, or even +1 body, Atheling mantle, Ravager's gorget, and mar's ring(lolnotworthit).

That being said, with VV/RR/Apoc I find myself getting to 100% TP very quickly and going over 100% often. Not to mention you'll probably be sitting on the sidelines while a thf, dnc, or mnk tank it so you don't feed tp- at least until you're a high end WAR, depending on your target. For most T1 NM's (NM's that mostly drop pop items for NM's such as Amarok, Ningishzida) you could probably tank with a decent whm, but for most T2 NM's (Such as Amarok, Ningishzida, Dhorme Khimaira) You'll probably want to stay away, only coming in to proc red. Ofcourse you'll have to *** the situtation. T3, gtfo- you're wasting WHM's time.

Edit: TP Advice is assuming you are /sam.

it wasnt supposed to be a 5hit, twas a nooby 25% haste 6hit. the war is 60, and this was stuff i had lying around/had plans to get for other jobs too, until i could finish the rest of the gear (in no hurry to do so until im 90.) its not bad advice at all, just taking it one step at a time before i go for good stuff.

this is what id ideally like to look like (step 1):


step 2:


lastly getting an ukon!

my tp set

I see. That works out then for a decent tp setup.

90NIN /30WAR...

ya, i just recently lvled ninja about a week ago, ive been a little busy finishing our 4th empyrean, right now its just a trigger job, but cool story bro

Most gear now-a-days is not hard to come by with a little effort and some friends. Here is a 25% haste 5-Hit War gear set, I think you could easily work towards. Remember though: to get a 5 hit you need +42 STP as war with out /Sam Using a 504 delay weapon. This means that it may also be a good idea to WS in some STP gear as well as conserve TP gear i.e. Ele. Belts. or Aesir Earring.

but nice try keep on rocking that subpar war

Aye, there is something wrong with people dropping judgment on how, when, and in what order another player chooses to obtain their gear. IMO anyway.

@OP, keep your head up you will get there, take your time, have fun, play the way that makes ya smile when ya log on/off.

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Nuuuu don't attack my gear sets....

my..myy.. feelings are hurt :(

enough that u updated ur profile lmao. nice try bro, ur impressing every1!

Caught me red handed!

but if we are checking out each others pages.. well gimme a sec... Ah yes ALL of your SJ's seem to be under leveled but its ok you have a Almace so I guess that makes up for it...