By Asura.Vyre 2011-02-11 07:47:58
Do the Behemoth with 6 men. Whm, Rdm, War, Blu, Blm, and Thf. Use the slope near the start of the actual circle. The elevation still cancels out Meteor and AOE on the mages. We did it like that producing skillchains, not really MBing them either(though the BLM caught like 2 lol). Using this strategy we killed it(the entire BCNM) in 4 minutes 35~ish seconds. No 2hours, simple foods. Built TP before entering each time. Just make sure Reraise is up for that final Meteor.
The turtle requires more BLMs, and only really BLMs. We've yet to do it, but you have to spike it in and out of its shell still like in the old days. Tried to do it with that same setup as the Behemoth, and even timing the MB didn't spike it out of its shell. You want total control over the turtle. 6BLMs with Refresh support(couple RDMs or BRDs) could probably do it, spike it inside of its shell with Freeze II, then spike it out ASAP with Blizz V/IV.