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By Viciouss 2021-03-15 20:34:23
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Today is national nap day. I plan to celebrate this holiday to its fullest extent.

And done
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2021-03-15 21:26:25
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$700 for a custom loop worth of supplies and parts. I'll wait I think.
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By Viciouss 2021-03-15 22:59:52
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Meh, science is interfering with my story. We are just going with Vitamin K and if anyone questions it they can remember they are reading a scifi fanfiction -_-
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By Asura.Vyre 2021-03-15 23:15:31
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WAIT so Rooks is ok with doing the deed with Anna as long as he's in control? OH MY

Hey, when you get to top, a hole's a hole. ;)
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-03-16 02:01:54
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the origins of bringing flowers to the ill has me wondering what was a bigger influence on that tradition. Two things I could think of, and I'm sure there are others-

1. Flowers were brought to the dead/deathly ill to combat the smell of decomposition. While it may have appeared to be a kindness to those past, I'd wager it had more to do with being kind to those living with a rotting corpse in their home during wakes.

2. Living plants would (unknowingly in ancient times) increase oxygen levels in the room they were in with the ill, and may have at times assisted in recovery. A couple good stories of "magical flowers saved my husband" or the like start spreading around a village, and in a few generations the practice becomes regional.

Other known reasons or theories?
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By Asura.Vyre 2021-03-16 03:22:37
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I mean, there was also the plague doctor masks being filled with flowers, perfumes, and incense in order to keep the, "miasma" of the diseases at bay.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-03-16 08:57:54
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Rant;

Ya know, the body is... irritating.

1989 me eats a twinkie
"thats more energy than we need today, I'm gonna store that in the right butt cheek for when I need it"
Next day; So how about burning that twinkie off body
"Might need it!"
30 years later
Ready to burn that 30 year old twinkie off today body?
"lolnope might need it"
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Body carries around stores of "energy" in the event it might need it... but carrying the extra weight requires more energy. The body is pretty stupid.

"yeah but when the apocalypse happens and you have no food you're gonna want that twinkies energy there"

Hold extra weight for your entire life on a what if.
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-03-16 10:14:13
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Agreed. It's way better to cut back miniscule amounts and make a routine out of exercise than to try any significant changes.

Reduce your meal size by like 5% and even just do jumping jacks every once in a while. Jumping jacks are an amazing way to get your blood pumping :)
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By Asura.Aeonova 2021-03-16 10:17:21
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Hold extra weight for your entire life on a what if.

Same reason I'm still using an inventory slot for Ducal Guard's Ring.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-03-16 10:18:41
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Yesterday saw only one race, but it felt like 2. Italy opened up almost an 1800 metre lead in just the first leg, as New Zealand fell off foil. At one point, race diagnostics had ETNZ at 4.2 knots while LRPP cruising at 33 knots. Considering how every prior race had played out, this was a clear win for 'Luna Rossa'.

But we got quite the shocker. The winds shifted angles, and FINALLY we got the chance to see 'Te Rehutai' open up and at full boar. She topped the day over 43 knots, and roared back, winning the first race of the final where the team who won the start lost the race.

That leaves this best of 13 match race format at ETNZ 6, LRPP 3, with race 10 today starting at 8pm PST (sorry in advance to my Odyssey group, I won't be around^^). We've got the first race of the final with winds predicted above 14 knots...current conditions are 13-15 knots with gusts above 18. Its basically made for 'Te Rehutai' to stomp all over the Italians, as they simply haven't been able to compete in such high winds throughout the regatta.

But in this sport, nothing is guaranteed. While we call the teams by their home nation, this isn't the Olympics. "Home Nation" is determined often by where a sailor has lived for the past 18 months- quite an easy fix to get the sailors and skipper a team wants...and that's exactly what LRPP did 3 years ago when they grabbed Jimmy Spithill to helm 'Luna Rossa'.

An Auckland native, he grew up sailing on this tricky harbor that has many dead spots and wind tunnels due to the numerous islands that surround it. He's gone rogue multiple times, captaining for Aussie, American, Kiwi, and now Italian teams. And known in the sport as 'Jimmy Pitbull', he's also got a track record of being dangerously aggressive- something we haven't seen in these lighter conditions. Tonight is gonna be interesting.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2021-03-16 10:35:15
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RadialArcana said: »
and good for certain sectors like service industries
Not even then.

There is never a good reason to artificially inflate the value of anything. That's just asking for inflation, or in some cases, hyperinflation.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-03-16 10:42:53
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If you wanna raise the minimum wage, and there certainly is some argument for it, a couple things need to happen (at least in the US, which I believe is what we're talking about with this discussion)-

1. Tipping ends completely. It was first given only as a sign of good service, but in 70+ years has morphed into an excuse to underpay service industry employees. So go ahead, raise their rate, but I'm no longer tipping.

2. Don't think that YOUR cost is gonna stay the same- business owners will keep their portion the same, and raise prices to compensate. So that extra money you now make is just gonna get funneled off like it already was.

3. This will only happen to the level of increase people are clamouring for once automation eliminates enough jobs in total so that the overall cost to employers actually drops. Don't have to pay unemployment insurance and health care for a touchscreen.


People who scream to raise the minimum wage always strike me as completely uneducated in economics, but worse than that- completely oblivious to the world around them. Its not even some complex argument in economics...its just human nature.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2021-03-16 10:51:46
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
1. Tipping ends completely. It was first given only as a sign of good service, but in 70+ years has morphed into an excuse to underpay service industry employees. So go ahead, raise their rate, but I'm no longer tipping.
That's a societal issue, not an economic issue. While some people may end up not tipping if minimum wage for waiters/waitresses goes up (and in some areas, it's at the federal minimum wage anyway, due to state regulations), others will continue to tip. You would ask society as a whole to change their perspective.

Some countries discourage tipping period though.

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2. Don't think that YOUR cost is gonna stay the same- business owners will keep their portion the same, and raise prices to compensate. So that extra money you now make is just gonna get funneled off like it already was.
Mostly. It will be a race to the lowest price increase. Those who cannot keep their prices as low as their competitors due to overall labor costs will end up closing their businesses. It happens every single time minimum wage increases. Just look at Seattle, and how many businesses (not just restaurants either, but the overall service and productivity industry) closed because of the increases.

There has been studies over this (example)

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3. This will only happen to the level of increase people are clamouring for once automation eliminates enough jobs in total so that the overall cost to employers actually drops. Don't have to pay unemployment insurance and health care for a touchscreen.
Why do you think large corporations like Walmart and McDonanlds are going to touchscreen kiosks instead of cashiers now?

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People who scream to raise the minimum wage always strike me as completely uneducated in economics, but worse than that- completely oblivious to the world around them. Its not even some complex argument in economics...its just human nature.
People in general are irrational beings. A person can be rational, but a mob is not.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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3. This will only happen to the level of increase people are clamouring for once automation eliminates enough jobs in total so that the overall cost to employers actually drops. Don't have to pay unemployment insurance and health care for a touchscreen.
Why do you think large corporations like Walmart and McDonanlds are going to touchscreen kiosks instead of cashiers now?

I love it. There's no reason that such jobs should ever have been "livable" jobs vs just work for teenagers living at home. The very idea that people get worried about losing such a crap job that "allows" them to live below the poverty line is enough reason in my book to essentially eliminate all that wasted productivity. Adjustment will suck for a few years, but in the long run we're much better off with a workforce that is more focused on building careers vs living paycheck to paycheck- and I've been there when that was all that was available to me. Its demeaning work, not something someone should feel good about doing a second longer than needed.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2021-03-16 11:04:33
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
in the long run we're much better off with a workforce that is more focused on building careers vs living paycheck to paycheck-
Honestly, the way the economy is going now, those with careers will be living paycheck to paycheck.

It used to be considered economic success to be able to not only not have any debt, but also have a savings account that you can easily access for emergencies so you don't have to go into debt. Now, some people want to make it so the real economic success is being able to live paycheck to paycheck without outside help, such as government assistance and subsidies.
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-03-16 11:29:33
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3. This will only happen to the level of increase people are clamouring for once automation eliminates enough jobs in total so that the overall cost to employers actually drops. Don't have to pay unemployment insurance and health care for a touchscreen.
I agree with everything except for this. Automation doesn't eliminate jobs, it eliminates work. Employers eliminate jobs.

If things were handled properly, this should mean people can get paid more for less work. If an employer is getting paid the same amount of money, they could distribute that wealth between the entire workforce. Instead, they decide to take that money for themselves and kick out everyone they don't need.

With the level of automation we have now, every single human being in the world should be completely thriving. We could all be getting paid a living wage off of 16-hour weeks as the work of 1 person could be distributed between 4. Just as an example, if there are four people at my company designing houses, and we upgraded our computers so our output doubled, our company would consequently make twice as much money. It's then up to my boss whether he doubles everyone's paycheques or lays off two designers and pockets the savings.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-03-16 11:38:38
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That's an extremely naive way to look at automation. At least south of your border, automation= less workers or employers aren't going to spend the money on it.
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
That's an extremely naive way to look at automation. At least south of your border, automation= less workers or employers aren't going to spend the money on it.
Automation is just another form of technology, and the sole purpose of any technology is to reduce the amount of work required for a task.

If you want to get really nitty-gritty, though, take the McDonald's example with the automated cashiers. One of those does the work of one person. Now, what the manager does is the key, because they have a few options:
1. They could do nothing, firing no one, keeping profits the same, and distributing the remaining work among employees (reducing the amount of work they'd each need to do)
2. They could increase the pay of each employee, but reduce their hours, now that less work is needed. If this happened enough, they could get paid a living wage by working 4-day weeks!
3. They could reduce the prices, making things even more affordable to third parties, bolstering the economy all around them.
4. They could lay one employee off, increasing the profit of their branch, keeping the amount of work each employee does the same.

It's the choice of the employer if the reduced work means jobs are lost. It's not the fault of the technology, it's the fault of capitalism. Automation itself is not a bad thing. If the people at the top distributed the gains from technology even a little bit, even part-time employers like McDonald's could sustain a livable lifestyle.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-03-16 12:04:24
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I agree with your statement that "its not the fault of the technology". My comment referring to naivety is related to your belief that ANY employer is going to invest in expensive technology without direct benefits to their own bottom line.


Also, in the McDonald's example, its NOT the decision of the manager. Its the decision of corporate offices who have no personal connection with the employees in question. They're just numbers on a bottom line.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2021-03-16 12:07:46
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
Just as an example, if there are four people at my company designing houses, and we upgraded our computers so our output doubled, our company would consequently make twice as much money. It's then up to my boss whether he doubles everyone's paycheques or lays off two designers and pockets the savings.
That's a bad example. The reason being that your employer does not have double the number of customers as a result of the double productivity made by upgrading your computers. Your employer just made productivity easier, that's all.

If you had a backlog of work and upgrading the technology increased productivity so the backlog disappears, nothing will change. If you didn't have a backlog, then you will have wasted hours of work, which is inefficient and either requires changes of labor (either transfer the employee(s) to a different department or remove the positions completely) or your employer may end up facing closure due to lack of work. Labor costs in your example stayed the same, work did not increase because demand did not increase, productivity increased so the availability of new projects rose but that doesn't increase any bottom lines. There is no additional income until new customers come in. Your employer in this case would reduce workhours (either stop paying overtime or just reduce regular hours period) because there is a lot of waste because of the new productivity levels.

You are correct in a sense that technology/automation reduces/eliminates work, but at the same time it also eliminates possible jobs unless new customers arise.

Think of it this way. Before, your company can be defined as a large bucket that holds so much water. Because the technology increased productivity, your "bucket" can now hold more water. Unless there is more water to pour into the bucket, the air between the top of the bucket and the waterline is considered waste, and the work needed to fill the bucket needs to be reduced until there is more water to fill it up.
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
If you want to get really nitty-gritty, though, take the McDonald's example with the automated cashiers. One of those does the work of one person. Now, what the manager does is the key, because they have a few options:
1. They could do nothing, firing no one, keeping profits the same, and distributing the remaining work among employees (reducing the amount of work they'd each need to do)
2. They could increase the pay of each employee, but reduce their hours, now that less work is needed. If this happened enough, they could get paid a living wage by working 4-day weeks!
3. They could reduce the prices, making things even more affordable to third parties, bolstering the economy all around them.
4. They could lay one employee off, increasing the profit of their branch, keeping the amount of work each employee does the same.
And companies do that. Surprisingly, in a high-competition market like McDonalds, #3 is usually the one selected, or a combination of #3 and #1.

In lower competition markets, it could be a mixture of either #2 and #1, or #2 and #4.

It depends on other, outside forces. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2021-03-16 12:13:38
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And yes, companies do give out raises on a regular basis.

Even larger corporations like McDonalds (although, to be fair, a vast majority of McDonalds are franchises and not owned by the corporation itself, the corporation only sees quality control towards the franchise itself and also quality control of the products/equipment).
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
I agree with your statement that "its not the fault of the technology". My comment referring to naivety is related to your belief that ANY employer is going to invest in expensive technology without direct benefits to their own bottom line.


Also, in the McDonald's example, its NOT the decision of the manager. Its the decision of corporate offices who have no personal connection with the employees in question. They're just numbers on a bottom line.
Yeah I know. I'm not being super specific with the example. And I'm also not saying that most corporations don't go with that fourth option. So we're in agreement then.

I'm just always scared of these kinds of conversations going in directions of "technology is bad! robots are taking our jobs and ruining our economy", because not only does that make human advancement sound evil, it also super downplays the real economic issues around the world.
 
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
I'm just always scared of these kinds of conversations going in directions of "technology is bad! robots are taking our jobs and ruining our economy", because not only does that make human advancement sound evil, it also super downplays the real economic issues around the world.
Only absolutists would say/think that honestly.

Or fearmongers.

Nothing wrong with technology period. It's how we use it that determines it's worth.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Only absolutists would say/think that honestly.

Or fearmongers.
Yeah... I see it often enough though. I remember watching a video about that shipping robot made by Boston Dynamics and the entire comment section was just full of stuff like "these lunatics are trying to destroy the economy!" >_>
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