Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Random Healer Analysis I put into my raid Discord:

[edit] @Proth - don't forget that a lot of your oGCDs that generated stacks in the past don't do so anymore, thus slowing down your cleave potential further.

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Shield AST having stronger shields than Scholar is already a thing. Except right now it's Synastry vs. Fey Illumination. In Stormblood, non-crit deploy will win out vs. AH, due to it then being Langress vs. Langress + Fey Illum. Unless they take away Fey abilities or nerf the crap out of them, which I would hope they have the sense to not do, if they don't want AST to take over more than it already has.

I mean the only reason people don't take double AST now, is that it requires card coordination, slows LB build, can't rely on card RNG for mitigation vs. Fey stuff, and Noct Ast DPS < SCH DPS due to more stance swapping required.

I mean sure, if you want to ignore your Slashing debuff and damage boost duration increase, resulting in more Butcher Blocks.

Upheaval and Onslaught offset Brutal Swing and Mercy Stroke quite handily.

Infuriate can be used more often, due to the new trait. And pairs extremely well with Inner Release. Also, Path does the equivalent of granting 2 wrath stacks per use.

But hey, feel free to jump ship at the first sign of potential problems.

Ok.

Yar, time will tell. As I said I just hope I'm stupidly wrong about my initial assessment on the AST kit.

As a whole, all healers took a DPS hit with the loss of DoTs (WHM taking the smallest hit in that regard), so Balance may still come out ahead over SCH's DPS augmentation kit. Time will tell.

Let me outline it for you more clearly since you seem to think you know better than me.

Heavensward
Opener: Heavy Swing (150) + Brutal Swing (100) -> Maim (190) +20% -> Storm's Eye (324) -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Skull Sunder (240) -> Butcher's Block (336) -> Heavy Swing (180) + Berserk +50% -> Fell Cleave (680) -> Heavy Swing (255) + Brutal Swing (170) -> Maim (323) -> Storm's Eye (459) -> Heavy Swing (255) -> Maim (323) -> Storm's Eye (459) -> Fell Cleave (680) -> Fell Cleave (680) + Brutal Swing (170) -> Fracture (510) -50%
6,664

Rotation: -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228) -> Storm's Eye (324) -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Skull Sunder (240) -> Butcher's Block (336) + Brutal Swing (120) -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228) -> Fell Cleave (480) -> x3
7,488

Burst: Heavy Swing (180) + Brutal Swing (120) -> Maim (228) -> Storm's Eye (324) -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Skull Sunder (240) -> Butcher's Block (336) -> Heavy Swing (180) + Berserk +50% -> Fell Cleave (680) -> Heavy Swing (255) + Brutal Swing (170) -> Maim (323) -> Storm's Eye (459) -> Heavy Swing (255) -> Maim (323) -> Storm's Eye (459) -> Fell Cleave (680) -> Fell Cleave (680) + Brutal Swing (170) -> Fracture (510) -50% -> back to rotation
6,752

Total: 20,904 per cycle w/ opener



Stormblood
Opener: Heavy Swing (150) -> Maim (190)1 -> Storm's Eye (270)2 +20% -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)3 -> Storm's Path (300)5 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)6 -> Storm's Eye (324)7 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)8 -> Storm's Eye (324)9 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)10 + Berserk +30% + Inner Release 8 -> Storm's Path (375)10 -> Fell Cleave (600)7.5 -> Fell Cleave (600)5 -> Fell Cleave (600)2.5 -> Fell Cleave (600)0 -> Infuriate 5 -> Fell Cleave (600)2.5 -> Fell Cleave(600)0 -30%
7,013

Rotation: -> Heavy Swing (180) -20% -> Maim (190/228)1 -> Storm's Eye (270/324)2 +20% -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)3 -> Storm's Path (300)5 -> Fell Cleave (480)0 -> x3
5,668

Burst: Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)1 -> Storm's Eye (324)2 +20% -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)3 -> Storm's Path (300)5 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)6 -> Storm's Eye (324)7 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)8 -> Storm's Eye (324)9 -> Heavy Swing (180) -> Maim (228)10 + Berserk +30% + Inner Release 8 -> Storm's Path (375)10 -> Fell Cleave (600)7.5 -> Fell Cleave (600)5 -> Fell Cleave (600)2.5 -> Fell Cleave (600)0 -> Infuriate 5 -> Fell Cleave (600)2.5 -> Fell Cleave(600)0 -30% -> back to rotation
7,135

Total: 19,816 per cycle w/ opener



This isn't including slashing debuff because I forgot to add it in and don't want to go back to adjust for it, but HW rotation never drops it and SB rotation MIGHT drop it between bursts. So roughly a 1,000 potency loss as of right now AND loss of all party utility with the removal of Storm's Path debuff. Fitting in Upheaval is difficult without clipping into Berserk recast, but if we waste 3 GCDs to build enough meter to use that twice per berserk burst then you gain 900 potency, which is still insufficient to break even, let alone come out on top.

So please, continue lecturing me on how I'm wrong about reacting this way.

My brain is full of ***.

Stop reading Trump's twitter feed then.

Gawd.

And also @ "more Butcher's Blocks": if you're using Butcher's Block as a part of your DPS rotation post-SB, you're losing damage by giving up the extra beast stack from Path.


edit: and actually, the overall potency for the SB rotation is even lower than I thought since you can only Inner Release once every 2 berserks, so you get half as many Fell Cleaves per every 2 bursts. This would give time to fit at least 1 Upheaval, but that alone does not make up for the loss of 3 fell cleaves. This would also take more time, in seconds, to do than the Heavensward rotation instead of less.

Well, I don't think you have to worry bout dropping the slashing debuff, even after 6 consecutive Fell Cleaves, it'll still be at roughly 7 seconds, so you can get it back unless you need hate for some reason.

2.18% PPS loss. Muh bad. RIP WAR 2k17.

Also Tank Nerf 2.0 incoming makes me sad panda. Another 150 ATP down the toliet. Thanks SE.

And a 100% loss in party utility.

And in the same patch where PLD is getting an almost across the board potency buff on its weaponskills and a Fell Cleave-like spell that they can cast 3-5 times during their Requiescat spell buff.

And in the same patch where PLD and DRK are gaining lots of party and OT/MT synergy/utility abilities.

What were they thinking...?

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I'm kinda worried about WHM. WHM is my lover but it looks like it may be like "Stand there and cast cures for flowers."

I'll be doing WHM first and AST second. =/

Kinda looking forward to RDM tho.

better than mnk, especially if you do piercing weak ones

RDM looks fantastic, but I'm worried about their MP management. Outside of cross-role stuff, it doesn't look like they have any MP regeneration tools.

SCH and AST, the two healers who needed the least, got the most. Suck it, White Mage.

Most of RDM's spells have a very low MP cost from what I saw, and if those numbers are accurate, Lucid Dreaming + Ranged Support will keep them fresh even in long fights.

My issue is having to rely on ranged support. I much prefer self-reliability than potentially running into problems if you're not bringing a BRD or MCH. Then again, with the pretty crazy buffs they're both getting, I don't see many people not bringing them.

From what I saw, the tier two spells had 550 potency and I didn't see the tier three.

I did hear something about different tooltips and some being wrong though. Wasn't paying much attention to FC chat tho.

One thing RDM seems to have that causes the minor *** up is Dualcast; if you land a melee blow, it drops your Dualcast. So it'll be interesting attacking from varying distances for different types of damage.

Well something else to take into consideration, is that it is part of your rotation to use melee attacks after you build up your manas, and your MP will regenerate quite a bit even in battle, once you've gone in to do the 3 or 4 slash n poke moves, before you go back to casting. Its MP longevity will probably be similar to SMNs.

Was thinking to myself, "I wonder if Direct Hit will affect DOTs? I wonder what the king substat will be in Stormblood?"

You only do 3 melee GCDs everytime you charge 85 black and white mana so thats not much in the regeneration field. Most of their spells are fairly low MP cost so I'm not particularly worried about it unless you have to raise a bunch or keep feeding healers/tanks MP. Any fight long enough for it to be an issue is probably one you'd plan around having a brd/mch.

The 550s are finishers to your melee combo. The basic flow will go Jolt/impact(240/270 potency) > instant Aero/thunder (300 potency, casting without chain cast or swift cast is like *** to mouth), if aero/thunder doesn't get a proc you go back to jolt/impact, if it procs you use stone/fire (270, which would be the tier 3s) then back instant aero/thunder.

Probably crit > DH > SS/Det depending on job since % based boost vs flat, det might still be good initially like it was in HW.

Its roughly a 5-7% DPS loss. Depending on the added notes Proth talked about with inner beast.

Warrior was already 13-15% Ahead of PLD already from parses. Just with the potency upgrades to PLD alone, that's a little over 5% dps increase for PLD. The 2 new abilities they get havent been factored to that, which could be some where around a total of 8-10% over increase if you also factor the buff to FoF. On single target the gap may not be as great as it was, with the other party buffs that pld can bring, the "rip warriors" feeling that people are getting may be justified. Only time will tell.