also looks as though this troll has a prior history...
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I know that you need crafters to make NM gear, derp. I also know that a crafting job can't farm it's own mats =)
In FFXI, you wouldn't start from day one and do nothing but say...fish and still be at level 1 on an actual job, unless you had an alt account that would keep you safe and such, would you? No. So why do that here?
Yes, I have a prior history and I'm pretty sure that everyone on this forum that isn't a newfag knows it and why it happened, but it's a new game with a new start so why bring that up? I'm not trying to troll, I'm merely pointing out that the best way to get something you want is to get it yourself.
I know that you need crafters to make NM gear, derp. I also know that a crafting job can't farm it's own mats =)
In FFXI, you wouldn't start from day one and do nothing but say...fish and still be at level 1 on an actual job, unless you had an alt account that would keep you safe and such, would you? No. So why do that here?
Yes, I have a prior history and I'm pretty sure that everyone on this forum that isn't a newfag knows it and why it happened, but it's a new game with a new start so why bring that up? I'm not trying to troll, I'm merely pointing out that the best way to get something you want is to get it yourself.
All i see is QQ and mad. Is that time of the month?
I know that you need crafters to make NM gear, derp. I also know that a crafting job can't farm it's own mats =)
In FFXI, you wouldn't start from day one and do nothing but say...fish and still be at level 1 on an actual job, unless you had an alt account that would keep you safe and such, would you? No. So why do that here?
Yes, I have a prior history and I'm pretty sure that everyone on this forum that isn't a newfag knows it and why it happened, but it's a new game with a new start so why bring that up? I'm not trying to troll, I'm merely pointing out that the best way to get something you want is to get it yourself.
All i see is QQ and mad. Is that time of the month?
XD I see no QQ nor any mad. If you want to see that, go look at the QQ forums about people who are ragequitting because the game is too hard for them to get past r16. What you see here is someone who is lazy and wants other people to essentially play the game for them. If all you are going to do is craft, this isn't the game for you.
So, the issue is that the op is lazy enough to do his own craft. You know in the end he can play this game they way he wants to play. If he wants to hire people to play the game for him and willing to pay them what is to you.
Just don't see why you care so much about he's play style. And always remember caring for other people play style is a waste of time.
You know usually I side with Dubont, but I can't really see the difference of someone buying mats and hiring someone to farm specific mats..
I basically did the same thing, I would tell the LS what I needed and to keep any of said item(s) they come across and I'll pay them for them (as most of our crafters did) it's really not all that different from just flat out hiring people to go farm for you.. In the end you're just buying someone else's items.
EDIT: I also did the same thing in FFXI sorta.. I had an arrangement with a fisher to buy their stock of soles/grimmonites/etc I didn't have to sit there bidding on them one by one, and they didn't have to waste time selling 7 at a time.. It was a good arrangement.
So, the issue is that the op is lazy enough to do his own craft. You know in the end he can play this game they way he wants to play. If he wants to hire people to play the game for him and willing to pay them what is to you.
Just don't see why you care so much about he's play style. And always remember caring for other people play style is a waste of time.
Edit: WC
So, you believe that he can play the game as he wants, which is perfectly fine, but what if a r50 goes to a r20 behest and gimps exp? Is that perfectly fine? What about a guy who pays a RMT to level his jobs and in the end the guy has all r50s with no knowledge of the job at all? Is that perfectly fine?
Yes, the OP can play how he wants, but what fun is a game when you do nothing but craft? If the OP farmed his own mats, that would be different, but just sitting on your lazy *** and expecting others to do the work for you is not cool. You wouldn't go to a party and just sit there with your weapon out, hoping to leech exp would you?
My statement still stands. If you want something, do it yourself. If you can't farm the items yourself, level a battle job and set up a farm party.
So then by your logic if you want a lvl 50 jade crook you will have to level all crafting jobs to make it for your Conjurer because buying it from someone else is lazy.
Level up a crafting job and do it yourself scrub...I think would be the terminology that you used.
You know usually I side with Dubont, but I can't really see the difference of someone buying mats and hiring someone to farm specific mats..
I basically did the same thing, I would tell the LS what I needed and to keep any of said item(s) they come across and I'll pay them for them (as most of our crafters did) it's really not all that different from just flat out hiring people to go farm for you.. In the end you're just buying someone else's items.
He's paying people to essentially be his own personal farm. If someone goes and farms, then puts the items in the wards and the OP buys them, that's one thing because everyone has the chance to buy those items from that player, but the OP is basically saying "I'm your boss and your my employee. I pay you to get these items and you only get those items for me." That's not cool
So then by your logic if you want a lvl 50 jade crook you will have to level all crafting jobs to make it for your Conjurer because buying it from someone else is lazy.
Level up a crafting job and do it yourself scrub...I think would be the terminology that you used.
wrong again. Buying it off someone who is a public sellsman is entirely different than making someone your personal farm ***.
So then by your logic if you want a lvl 50 jade crook you will have to level all crafting jobs to make it for your Conjurer because buying it from someone else is lazy.
Level up a crafting job and do it yourself scrub...I think would be the terminology that you used.
wrong again. Buying it off someone who is a public sellsman is entirely different than making someone your personal farm ***.
wow at your logic...
he is offering to pay for certain materials that people farm....
Its not a "farm ***" if they agree to do it out of their own free will
Its a good opportunity to make some good coin..we arent cheap.
So...in FFXI, paying someone to merc your Joytoy while you sit there and do nothing to help is cool with you? I see the kind of people you are...and I'm glad you're not on my server.
How is he sitting doing nothing? he is levelling every sub craft and we are subbing out buying HQ materials that we cant possibly farm enough of alone.
Who cares about ffxi, this is xiv
They are getting paid for their time, bottom line.
How is he sitting doing nothing? he is levelling every sub craft and we are subbing out buying HQ materials that we cant possibly farm enough of alone.
Who cares about ffxi, this is xiv
They are getting paid for their time, bottom line.
He's mercing people to get items for him which I don't entirely agree with. Ok, since no one cares about ffxi, say there's a rare/ex item in this game that you can only get if you're in the party. The OP is the kind of person that would pay someone 3mil to get a party together and do all the work of killing the mob just so the OP can get the item, but the OP never lifts a finger to attack the thing. He just sits back and watches while others do the work for him. Same concept here.
Dub STFU you were a self proclaimed Bot addict in ff11 and would still be botting if you didn't get banned. Now you want to wave a moral flag in 14 because some one wants to get some Mats merced lol are you serious kick rocks dude.
Dub STFU you were a self proclaimed Bot addict in ff11 and would still be botting if you didn't get banned. Now you want to wave a moral flag in 14 because some one wants to get some Mats merced lol are you serious kick rocks dude.
Been noticing that lately old bots seem to have a different view with items merc. Must be a guilty conscious taking into in a effect.