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Jishnu's Radiance Build
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-04-05 22:35:59
Ah, now I see it.
That posture is very similar to when they are single wielding a dagger. lol.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-06 15:35:05
Hello fellow rngs!
This is my current set:
I just bought aluh jambiya and I hope the 10 str outdoes the more crit damage of oneiros (which I don't have yet anyways.)
I have yet to get Athos gloves but I do have the feet and legs. I also have 2x thundersoul rings as well as a rancorous mantle if that is actually better than stacking extra R. Attk.
I also have a 3% haidate, would that be a better combo paired with kakura+1? Or double athos?
How much better is this I already have oce +1.
Obviously my gear choices will change once I have the gloves which will allow keeping the set bonus with better gear. As for athos body I do not think i will come across them anytime soon as I haven't seen a real Rex shout NA time for quite a while.
Thank you for your insights.
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-07 23:43:32
Some say Athos Tabard, I say augmented Osode; regardless, this is what I use in Voidwatch with great results.
Rancorous Mantle > all
AF3+2 Hands > Hachi (until you get Athos)
Use Athos Feet/Legs until you get Hands, then use Athos Hands/Legs and Kacura Feet+1.
Replace Bellona w/Thundersoul (if you're desperate for RACC, 8 won't do much anyways)
Anwig with 2%crit/2%wsdmg slightly > Cuauhtli Headpiece +1 slightly > Aias Bonnet slightly > Oce+1
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By Fenrir.Greever 2012-04-08 06:03:10
Some say Athos Tabard, I say augmented Osode; regardless, this is what I use in Voidwatch with great results.
Rancorous Mantle > all
AF3+2 Hands > Hachi (until you get Athos)
Use Athos Feet/Legs until you get Hands, then use Athos Hands/Legs and Kacura Feet+1.
Replace Bellona w/Thundersoul (if you're desperate for RACC, 8 won't do much anyways)
Anwig with 2%crit/2%wsdmg slightly > Cuauhtli Headpiece +1 slightly > Aias Bonnet slightly > Oce+1
How big of a diffrence is it between byakko's with 4% crit dmg and athos' tights?
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-04-08 06:26:33
Not big.
On average, Athos's probably will win because you're raising 4% from lower base than Byakko's
25% (crit cap) + 4% is 1.29/1.25 = 3.2% increase
5~8%? (crit dmg from other slot) + 4% 1.09~1.12/1.05~1.08 = 3.7%~3.8% increase
I still find it hard to believe Aluh Jambiya is better tha Vulcan's Staff + Grip combo
2 STR 3% crit dmg+ vs 10 ratk and probably 3DEX (if you're using gatta+1)
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-08 08:40:47
Some say Athos Tabard, I say augmented Osode; regardless, this is what I use in Voidwatch with great results.
Rancorous Mantle > all
AF3+2 Hands > Hachi (until you get Athos)
Use Athos Feet/Legs until you get Hands, then use Athos Hands/Legs and Kacura Feet+1.
Replace Bellona w/Thundersoul (if you're desperate for RACC, 8 won't do much anyways)
Anwig with 2%crit/2%wsdmg slightly > Cuauhtli Headpiece +1 slightly > Aias Bonnet slightly > Oce+1 Thanks alot, I even have those anwig stats made so that is easy for me to change.
nq vulcan pearl > pixie?
scout hands +2 > sylvan +2?
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By Siren.Mcmurdles 2012-04-08 08:49:33
Not big.
On average, Athos's probably will win because you're raising 4% from lower base than Byakko's
25% (crit cap) + 4% is 1.29/1.25 = 3.2% increase
5~8%? (crit dmg from other slot) + 4% 1.09~1.12/1.05~1.08 = 3.7%~3.8% increase
I still find it hard to believe Aluh Jambiya is better tha Vulcan's Staff + Grip combo
2 STR 3% crit dmg+ vs 10 ratk and probably 3DEX (if you're using gatta+1)
Maybe you derped but Aluh Jambiya is /WAR onry for the Fencer bonus
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-04-08 11:08:39
20TP bonus and 5% crit rate bonus.
Does the 5% crit bonus transfer to ranged WS? I remember ranged WS only benefit from the 20 TP bonus only.
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-04-08 17:29:52
20TP bonus and 5% crit rate bonus.
Does the 5% crit bonus transfer to ranged WS? I remember ranged WS only benefit from the 20 TP bonus only. Both TP and %crit transfer to RA, I believe.
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By Fenrir.Kut 2012-04-08 19:11:37
How about Aluh vs Oneiros?
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-04-08 19:37:33
How about Aluh vs Oneiros? Absolutely Aluh. The STR is going to do more for you.
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By Fenrir.Kut 2012-04-08 19:39:05
How about Aluh vs Oneiros? Absolutely Aluh. The STR is going to do more for you.
Even if were to keep Potency on full time? I don't see 10 of any mod doing 7% more crit damage but maybe I'm over estimating my crit rate
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-04-08 19:55:10
How about Aluh vs Oneiros? Absolutely Aluh. The STR is going to do more for you.
Even if were to keep Potency on full time? I don't see 10 of any mod doing 7% more crit damage but maybe I'm over estimating my crit rate
I didn't realize the crit rate Oneiros was 10%. That's pretty sexy. I dunno, either/or is a good bet depending what your overall crit rate is with other gear.
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-10 09:09:44
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »Some say Athos Tabard, I say augmented Osode; regardless, this is what I use in Voidwatch with great results.
Rancorous Mantle > all
AF3+2 Hands > Hachi (until you get Athos)
Use Athos Feet/Legs until you get Hands, then use Athos Hands/Legs and Kacura Feet+1.
Replace Bellona w/Thundersoul (if you're desperate for RACC, 8 won't do much anyways)
Anwig with 2%crit/2%wsdmg slightly > Cuauhtli Headpiece +1 slightly > Aias Bonnet slightly > Oce+1 Thanks alot, I even have those anwig stats made so that is easy for me to change.
nq vulcan pearl > pixie?
scout hands +2 > sylvan +2?
Sylvan +2 > Scout's +2.
Earring wise, kind of a toss up tbh.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-10 19:11:48
I know no one cares, but finally got Athos' gloves after killing him 30+ times today. Woot!
Anyways I'm about to augment my Osode and I believe Ninurta said crit rate(Byakko, caps at 2%) route rather than crit damage(Suzaku, caps at 3%) route. Is this true? And why is it better?
And order of optimal armors:
perfect aug osode > athos > loki?
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-10 19:21:25
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »I know no one cares, but finally got Athos' gloves after killing him 30+ times today. Woot!
Anyways I'm about to augment my Osode and I believe Ninurta said crit rate(Byakko, caps at 2%) route rather than crit damage(Suzaku, caps at 3%) route. Is this true? And why is it better?
And order of optimal armors:
perfect aug osode > athos > loki?
Congrats on your gloves.
Let us say you were to use Loki's over an aug'd Osode; you'd be gaining 7RATK, 1DEX/AGI and 5% crit dmg. With Athos, you'd be gaining 4DEX/AGI, 5% Crit dmg.
With Osode compared to both, you'd be gaining 2% (1% if Athos) Crit Rate and 10STR while losing 4DEX/AGI and 5% Crit dmg.
The reason I prefer Osode, is because Crit rate applies to all hits, as does the 10STR. Crit dmg only applies if you crit, which you're not guaranteed to do. That's my logic behind it at least.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-10 19:42:08
That makes sense, I always try to keep some str in my builds even if its a different mod because of pdif fstr etc. I used to use alot of r. attack too but I came to realize you don't need as much on a crit ws because well, its a critical hit and attack is less relevant.
Thanks, time to farm more byakko.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-10 21:09:39
Using your set up:
http://imageshack.us/f/690/akvan.jpg/
300% zerk, warcry, temp buffs, no bard/cor, no food, antlion arrow, flashy shot
non-flashy were 1500-2600
Also I got a str+4 while making my crit rate osode, that would be pretty awesome paired up with max crit hit rate :Q_
edit: seems i fail at bbcode for images (must be .png?) but its 4196 vs. Akvan.
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-10 21:21:41
Average about 3500 on Akvan.
Same buffs, Garg. Arrows and prob. Kofte.
edit: doing dragon now, going to try to get Bard buffs and go for 4k.
double edit: 3800 no brd, orz.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-04-11 09:34:42
wish gargoyle was more abundant here
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-11 22:17:31
4k?
edit: Zerk, Flashy, Warcry, Sharpshot, Minuet x2, temps.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-04-12 02:10:34
300% TP I assume?
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-04-12 02:37:04
While Last Stand does 6.5k. Who cares how crappy JR's damage is; we already know.
And fix your recycle merits unless you really need epeen damage every 10m.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-04-12 03:26:22
helel is required to bring this topic back every couple pages. Just give him a little time for his rant & we'll get back on topic.
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By Ragnarok.Ninurta 2012-04-12 09:19:53
While Last Stand does 6.5k. Who cares how crappy JR's damage is; we already know.
And fix your recycle merits unless you really need epeen damage every 10m.
Ah hell, my bad. Thought I was posting in the Jishnu thread.
Lighten up Francis.
By Johnnyj 2012-04-13 00:24:45
So what do you think the best 3 atmacites are for JR?
Discipline+Incursion+Valiant?
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-04-13 02:01:54
Practically? Coercion, Valiant, Latitude or Incursion.
By Whitechapel 2012-04-13 14:02:52
my Jishnus Set any upgrades advise?
Byakkos has 4% crit and Kirins has 2% dmg
I just finished up my trials for Jishnu's Radiance yesterday, and I don't really know what type of set up I should be aiming for to maximize damage output.. DEX, STR, R.Att, Crit rate inside abyssea.
This is what I've been using:
I was pulling off 2,000~8,000 WSs all night with Red Curry buns, RR, VV, Sea Daughter.
What do you guys think would be some upgrades to my set, or a total new set to use if I'm doin' it wrong.
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