What Grinds Your Gears?
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What grinds your gears?
your basically saying that if i should die you should be allowed to use my product for free in any which way you desire with no cost to you? Or am i misunderstanding?
Leviathan.Frotaut said: » your basically saying that if i should die you should be allowed to use my product for free in any which way you desire with no cost to you? Or am i misunderstanding? I think death is a pretty fair limit of duration to capitalize on your own works. While I can understand passing rights on for your family and future generations therein (royalties etc.), I think it's pretty lame for larger corporations to constantly extend their rights to your works well beyond your passing and/or the disbanding of said group. it might be lame but that's only because your not in that line of work, while it does suck that the larger corp. as a whole will far exceed it's profit margin off a good product it's their property they own it just like you would own a house or any other property and how can anyone say just because someone that is the original owner is out of the picture, this item should be free, nothing in life is free i personally think copy write laws aren't strict enough. if i create and market any product no one should be allowed to use, rehash or change my product w/o permission of the lawful owner. It's actually your line of thought process that grinds my gears. I'm still not entirely sure what your point of the copy write is that bothers you. Are you asking for free permission to use or obtain said products?
Leviathan.Frotaut said: » Are you asking for free permission to use or obtain said products? When you're dead and gone, yes. Cool let me know when your parents die so i can come take their house for my family for free as they wont be needing it. Or when it's been 28 years since the purchased it. I'm sure they've had plenty of comfort by then.
Leviathan.Frotaut said: » Cool let me know when your parents die so i can come take their house for my family for free as they wont be needing it. Or when it's been 28 years since the purchased it. I'm sure they've had plenty of comfort by then. Leviathan.Frotaut said: » Cool let me know when your parents die so i can come take their house for my family for free as they wont be needing it. Or when it's been 28 years since the purchased it. I'm sure they've had plenty of comfort by then. lolwat I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it...
I see no dif. i want a house but dont wanna pay for it, you want someones music sure the price is a bit dif lol but same thing dif subject.
Quote: Artemicion said: » Leviathan.Frotaut said: » Cool let me know when your parents die so i can come take their house for my family for free as they wont be needing it. Or when it's been 28 years since the purchased it. I'm sure they've had plenty of comfort by then. lolwat I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it... Bismarck.Flavin said: » I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it... I'm talking about copyright ownership, to works of media. Not houses and cars lol. If you're dead, people should have the ability to use your works as they please. Whether it's for a movie soundtrack in the future, or making a godawful anime music video on youtube. I shouldn't have the RIAA knocking on my door for using your song after you've been dead IMO.  /had to Artemicion said: » Bismarck.Flavin said: » I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it... Try to take my house??? That would grind my gears!
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Artemicion said: » Bismarck.Flavin said: » I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it... Bismarck.Flavin said: » Artemicion said: » Bismarck.Flavin said: » I think he's trying to say that with your line of thinking ownership has no meaning... once you're dead and gone everything you own is free game and no one has any rightful claim to it... Try to take my house??? That would grind my gears! Alright. I guess that's where we agree to disagree then. I think intellectual property and rights to written works (be it film, music, literature or otherwise) should be public domain after the said author has since passed. Also I think public domain is often mistaken as a manner of exploiting capital on someone else's work. It merely is a means to access or use works and build upon them at the will of others. i know what your talking about, the problem to me lies in your thought process. You actually think it's unfair you have to pay for a dead mans music or to obtain his movie. Or even to remake his product. The only dif i see between my points and yours is you use the word copy write. Making a song cost alot of money, yes most people make their money back in turn if it was worth putting the money into making the product for bulk dist. I however feel you as a consumer should have no right to decide it's unfair that say john lennon is dead so you should be able to use "his" creations for your homemade movie or be able to download his entire works for free. I'm sorry but i just can't turn away from seeing it being the same as someone who worked hard for a house then 28 years later someone says you've lived here long enough i dont care if you built it foundation up you have to move. Oh and btw this internet browser kid gets it for free.
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So since the person who wrote the deed to your house is obviously dead by now (edit: assuming you live in an older house), your deed should be public domain?
Cerberus.Kalyna said: » So since the person who wrote the deed to your house is obviously dead by now, your deed should be public domain? How are written works of media under copyright protection still being mistaken for houses and cars? how is it not?
quick edit: but their are laws that protect ownership for almost all things why should a song i create be allowed to be public property just because i die? I think people have a hard time thinknig of intellectual and physical property as the same thing in terms of ownership. If it even is...
Leviathan.Frotaut said: » i know what your talking about, the problem to me lies in your thought process. You actually think it's unfair you have to pay for a dead mans music or to obtain his movie. Or even to remake his product. The only dif i see between my points and yours is you use the word copy write. Making a song cost alot of money, yes most people make their money back in turn if it was worth putting the money into making the product for bulk dist. I however feel you as a consumer should have no right to decide it's unfair that say john lennon is dead so you should be able to use "his" creations for your homemade movie or be able to download his entire works for free. I'm sorry but i just can't turn away from seeing it being the same as someone who worked hard for a house then 28 years later someone says you've lived here long enough i dont care if you built it foundation up you have to move. Oh and btw this internet browser kid gets it for free. I'm talking about after death. Not the 1700s standard twenty eight years. And created works of media that were previously under copyright, not physical property. your not understanding though that the product continues to pass down it's always owned. Which in turn means you still wanna be able to take it away from someone else at no charge.
Leviathan.Frotaut said: » how is it not? quick edit: but their are laws that protect ownership for almost all things why should a song i create be allowed to be public property just because i die? I wouldn't have such a problem with it if the rights and monetary royalties were passed down to your family and future generations therein. But a majority of the time, it's record labels, publishers and filming industries that keep your money posthumous. it's whoever owns the rights, 9 out of 10 times it's the people that paid you to create said product and also the same people that flipped the 250 thousand or so dollars to create a somewhat cheap cd. films are a ton more expensive and so are books. unless your dumb you and your family always have a small entitlement to royalties far into the future, i know my personal contract states that whoever i pass royalties down to so long as my music continues to create profit (which it already doesn't) they will in turn be sent a monthly check. Yes my children could sell those royalties, and yes no matter what the label i recorded under will always profit from it, i just can't see you saying when i die the royalties should die too.
Perhaps I'm thinking a bit too radically, but in my opinion, intellectual property of created works ceases when the author/creator of said works passes away. What potential motivation to capital or future works is there from beyond the grave? Copyright is protection from infringement of others using your works without consent. Why exactly should that extend beyond your lifetime? I just think that's silly. Should record companies hire a medium to ask your ghostly spirit if it's alright someone uses your music in their own works?
Ramuh.Rowland said: » Just ask Tupac.
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Odin.Liela said: » popping out babies /stares at your uterus /looks at watch /makes tick tock sounds solution What grinds my gears is unsupervised teenagers driving around in a van solving mysteries. I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids.
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Quote: Perhaps I'm thinking a bit too radically, but in my opinion, intellectual property of created works ceases when the author/creator of said works passes away. What potential motivation to capital or future works is there from beyond the grave? Copyright is protection from infringement of others using your works without consent. Why exactly should that extend beyond your lifetime? I just think that's silly. |
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