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Bismarck.Mitchel said:
Or you could just buy one for 200k with abyssite of the cosmos.
Which you get from "The Wyrm God", so that kinda kills that now doesn't it?
Why, you only planning on doing the fight once then?
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Which you get from "The Wyrm God", so that kinda kills that now doesn't it? Why, you only planning on doing the fight once then?
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Odin.Blazza said: Valefor.Prothescar said: Rani's the only real *** block when it comes to accessing the fight. He's a douche with a mission. Also, Kirana and Corres, stop asking questions that have already been answered and just read the damn thread. I'm sorry, but none of my questions were answered earlier in the thread. I've read through it several times. While I'm at it, here's another question: Does Shinryu himself drop the items? or do they come from a chest? Would be nice if TH helped. Asura.Andevom said: Bismarck.Mitchel said: Asura.Andevom said: Bismarck.Mitchel said: Or you could just buy one for 200k with abyssite of the cosmos. Which you get from "The Wyrm God", so that kinda kills that now doesn't it? Why, you only planning on doing the fight once then? No, but if we're discussing strategies on how to beat it, I think strategies that involve using an item you can only get from beating it is a bit useless. If you can beat it without it (which you need to at least once), then that's the strategy that needs to be discussed. Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items. Logic says hi.
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Asura.Andevom said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items. Logic says hi. Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point. Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time? Oh I know what you mean, of course we need to know how to beat it normally, that's common sense. but as far as after... well ... if drops are just like any BCNM then people can just blaze through it with brews instead of going through the hassle of beating it "normally" Unless of course they limit you in the BC.
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Asura.Andevom said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items. Logic says hi. Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point. Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time?
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Asura.Andevom said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items. Logic says hi. Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point. Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time? Buy a brew for 2mil the first time, of course. Then every other time it costs 200k. Seemed simple enough to me.
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Seems like a waste when you could just kill him without the brew and turn that cruor into 10 brews instead of 1.
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Ragnarok.Corres said: Hades.Stefanos said: Ok, dumb question, but what exactly does this Abyssite of Discernment do? I tried to Wiki it, no luck.  does not show everytime though poster said. Erhm... Does that show a mob's "weakness" (as in spells that will land/do more damage) or !! weakness? Slow II =/= "Wind Elemental Magic." <_<
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There's a 5 second delay between the slow 2 and the proc. It's more than likely that someone else's spell proc'd the !!.
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Doesn't that pic show a red !! proc from elemental wses because wouldn't a magic proc say the mob is unable to cast rather than frozen in its tracks? Also, I'm guessing that the wind weakness referrence is talking about it's !! proc, so in this case it will likely be aero 3, aero 4, aeroga 3, or tornado since those are the only wind elemental spells that can proc a !! (unless SE messed up and means wind element instead of elemental, which would mean it could be any wind spell out of the 8).
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said: There's a 5 second delay between the slow 2 and the proc. It's more than likely that someone else's spell proc'd the !!. This is getting off-topic, but it definitely was someone else's action that triggered the !!. Slow II is not a trigger spell. And the text in the pic shows a red !! weakness, not yellow. I only re-emphasize this because I still see players trying spells like Poison II, Bio, Burn, Aspir II, Banishga, Stun, Gravity, Elegy, and Absorb-DEX, thinking that these are potential trigger spells. They are not. The only Enfeebling Magic spell that is a potential trigger spell is Dispel. The only Dark Magic spells that are potential triggers are Bio II, Drain (I), and Aspir (I). Please spare me your anecdotes about how you swear that this one time at band-camp you triggered !! with Diaga. You didn't. It was someone else's spell from your party.
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This is taken from wiki:
Red !! Weakness (Elemental WS): "Your attack staggers the fiend! The fiend is frozen in its tracks." Yellow !! Weakness (Magic): "Your attack staggers the fiend! The fiend is unable to cast magic." So unless I forgot how to read, the mob was weakened with an Elemental WS and not a magic spell, so slow 2 did not cause a !! proc, nor did any other spell (at least within the picture).
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 It's a hard, but very fun fight. Sad that you can use brew on it, as it's one of the few truly challenging fights left in the game. It's not so bad until he gets below 50% where he gain's access to most of his mean spells, and below 25% he gets spam happy as reported (3x meteor, 3x Supernova being the worst). Even supernova is managable with holy water, it's the meteor spam that is near impossible to survive without the use of fools, especially for mages as he loves to drawn in as he readies his 3x ability/spell spam.
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Lakshmi.Vitali said: Was there good music in the fight? I hadn't checked the music .dat files, so I don't know if there's a new song or if they re-used an old one. Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights.
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Siren.Eremes said: Ragnarok.Corres said: Hades.Stefanos said: Ok, dumb question, but what exactly does this Abyssite of Discernment do? I tried to Wiki it, no luck. does not show everytime though poster said.
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Lakshmi.Vitali said: Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights. Damn, I'm excited to hear it. Anyone do a rip of the song or know the number for it in Vana'tunes? Caitsith.Mahayaya said: Lakshmi.Vitali said: Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights. Damn, I'm excited to hear it. Anyone do a rip of the song or know the number for it in Vana'tunes? I like that music :O
veeeery reminiscent of old FF music. Heads up you get the abyssite for 200k brew by completing the quest line leading up to shinryu fight so you can use brew first time you fight.
So what are drop rates like?
no, you don't. You get the abyssite that gives you hints to a mob's weakness for completing the quests leading up to the fight.
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 Killed once legit, now farming with brews. Helm/Mail still elusive but capped on everything else. Blue !! procing on most kills.
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Lakshmi.Vitali said: [IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/ryandonn85/ffxi_20101215_001819.jpg Killed once legit, now farming with brews. Helm/Mail still elusive but capped on everything else. Blue !! procing on most kills. How would you say drop rate was on the kills without Blue? Which items dropped? Did any? |
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