Estoquer's Sayon & Gantherots

Rainbow cape.

Gear doesn't make a player awesome at their job, only help with situations. The skills that a person has make the player good. Does this mean, you suck at your job for calling out my crappy gear?

Nope, it means you suck because you have a rainbow cape :D

Ok well sorry, that was alittle harsh, buuuuut, convert merits -> earth acc merits!
No issues landing enfeebs these days anyways :P

I have 5/5 convert merits. However, I haven't used convert in god knows how long inside abyssea. I also have 5/5 earth maacc merits. Both sort of feel like a waste now, but then again the other options aren't that much better. And having the convert merits might be useful should I do some lowman stuff outside of abyssea. Such as when we did KB not long ago and I was the only healer till it was almost dead, I actually had to convert - once.

I'm liking the rdm AF3 +2 body and hands. And like others here, curious about the potency of "Enhances enfeebling magic effect".

I duo on Rdm and with Beyond/MM I still convert a lot. I don't think that I am doing it wrong at all..it just allows me to nuke that much harder.

IMO with a good duo partner on Rdm even with +19refresh it's not hard to burn thru a ***ton of MP..just means the mob dies faster. I am a huge advocate of vert merits.

No it wasn't, not really. Prism Cape is cheap these days. That's one weird, sad, mismatched equipment set and I'm hoping it's the result of being scanned at a bad time.

Lol I do that too. On the rare occasion I'm low on mp, well that's when I use my temp items! I honestly can't remember last time I used convert in abyssea, at least not after I got MM atma.

^ What he said. My husband and I low man a lot, him on sam or mnk, me rdm and our 3rd char brd. I don't always need convert, but the days I do I'm glad the merits were there. I'd rather have the mp when I need it, than extra ele accuracy for something you should be able to land anyway.

I had this same thought..I really hope he is wearing NQ Af3 hat just for the looks or town gear..if not then..
Is quite the bold statement.

Ice and Fire Acc may be worth it since those are our highest tiered nukes right now.

But I can't imagine lolFireAcc being better than 1min+ off my vert timer.

Note Ultimate atma. 50matk and presumably 50~ macc for -20%~ MP (plus opportunity cost from Refresh atma); depending on fight, a RDM with Convert merits will be able to use this atma far more effectively than one without.


This attitude is perpetuated a lot; good players tend not to be miraculously awesome at playing the job but terrible at gearing it. A good player is aware of how to gear/merit/play their job and adapts well etc.

I'm not saying you're not a good RDM because I don't personally know, all I'm saying is your proclaimed ability is not an excuse to gear poorly.

Final rhetorical question is a horrible logical fallacy :(

<3 oh and +1

Awesome players know how to play their job.

Part of playing the job is gearing the job.

Yeah I agree, even though the only time I seem to convert in abyssea is when I'm on blm, I'm keeping my rdm's convert merits for those oshit moments.

sectum beat me to it :(

I rather do like the stats and the looks of the AF3 hands and body buuuuut.... One question that keeps bugging me...

Why does none of the AF/Relic/AF3 have Dark Magic skill+ on it? I mean one piece or another enhances every other skill, and Bio is a native spell on RDM lol <.< Just seems weird to me.

because we cap dot on bio 3 pretty easily with 5/5 merits. not much of a point to add skill to a job that barely utilizes the skill.


well, not EASILY, since it's 10/tick with 291~ skill. but 9 a tick is pretty sweet.

Only idiots don't merit convert recast

Well until this update it was a bit better to set ASA atma instead of beyond anyways. Especially if you didn't have movement speed. And you would've had a hard time running out of mp then. I don't think I've touched convert since I got MM inside of abyssea let alone riding the timer. Well not on rdm... though even blm hardly has either

just read randomly into this thread and the thing that made me post is: if you like spending money on a prism cape, go ahead. but everyone who says you have to buy it is a complete moron. the little stat increase isnt going to do anything, face it. even less in abyssea times when enhancement buffs fluctuate through martello supply and you have a laughably +1 int over the NQ, spent loads of money on and are proud of it, thats just ridiculous. Know what? I still have black cape+1 on my blm because I didnt get my hands on a goetia cape yet and I just for style reasons like "black cape" better for a blm than a rainbow cape. same int value, stoneskin capped without, screw the 9 mp. If you think Im a bad blm because of that, then go ahead I dont care. high prices arent the most important stat in this game and +1 in a single stat doesnt justify "get it by any means"

100k is alot of gil?

That's all well and good, but what about a light staff with wind grip?

I confess ._. I am a RDM with 5/5 ice and earth magic acc xD Was for old school HNMs times and I didnt changed it since then =/ I never play rdm anyway xD

I rarely needed Convert merits before Abyssea came along. And now with the ever increasing refresh you can get inside of Abyssea from Atma, plus refresh II and numerous temp items I`m finding it even less of a must have merit and more of a merit it if you want to.

I agree you don't need as much macc to land enfeebles these days but you also don't really need to be converting every 5mins.

I had 5/5 earth and 5/5 ice before Abyssea and I still have those now, purely because I can't be bothered to swap out the merits to put into an ability that I hardly use anyway.

It was never really about needing Vert merits so much as what you could do with the extra MP they afforded, compared to nearly nonexistent benefits of earth acc merits.

Upgrading from Rainbow Cape to Prism Cape isn't going to make or break anything. However, the point is that if you upgrade every available slot, it adds up and it will end up making a difference. I'm not going to comment further on that person's rdm gear, I'll just stand by what I said earlier that it's confused and mismatched, and hopefully they were scanned at a bad time. But then again, I guess it matches their merits.

@dasva
100k is a lot of gil depending on the usefulness of the item. Id spend it any day for a novio earring but not for a morion earring. again it depends on how much money you have but if you do not spend hours farming regularly or regularly participate in endgame ls events, it is not nothing.

@blazza
um wind grip with light staff, I actually intended to get all grips when they came out but realized soon that the inventory space wasnt worth it for the marginal effect. so I ended up with a thunder grip since I am blm main for nukes and stun, dark would be probably better tho. anyway, the reason for those is the 20mp or I wouldnt keep it so at the wrong moment Ill be wearing a thunder grip with an earth staff. actually most of the time since its my idle gear

@Tamoa
it is true that upgrading each slot by a little adds to the sum, then again there are items that just lift the job on another level. for blm that used to be sorc ring, novio, heralds gaiters. if you got those you kicked ***, if not you didnt. now if you didnt you couldnt do anything about it without those items, just move your damage up single bits with huge gil effort if you liked to. there was a pretty good standard of gear available and cheap just like 1INT below the expensive line. diamond rings, rainbow cape, weskit, demon helm... from there you could upgrade bit by bit to snow rings prism, genie weskit, demon+1... I personally thought it was worth it since I play blm a lot and solo so if the mob isnt dead when mp is out thats it. but it is was by no means necessary. get a novio earring and you will do more damage with full NQ gear over someone who had all the expensive bits but no novio. (I know novio is pretty expensive but the common way of obtaining it was attending events in a ls and spend points when killing JoL so was for most ppl treated like a rare/ex item so price didnt matter)
for the merits, vraelias merits are "not what I would choose" either but I dont mind really how others spend their time/merits/money/life :P everyone as he/she likes to

Most of the RDM's I see stating they never run out of mp in abyssea....also don't seem to know how to maintain a haste rotation.

I've had convert merited for years and I don't see that changing. While I have 2+ refresh atmas why would I use both when I can add a mab atma or cure potency atma or something else? If you never even get close to running out of mp maybe you should look at your party set-up and/or your play style.

Same, now that we have Blizzard IV(which is great for expending more MP to deal higher damage in a shorter amount of time) I find myself verting a lot again. And this is considering /sch as my subjob which already gets amazing boosts to the longetivy of your MP.

All the new gear we get has insane amounts of MACC on it. Not only that, but also has good potency stats on it as well. There should be no reason why you'd have trouble landing any type of enfeeble with AF3+1/2 and some already existing gear. If you do get MACC merits, I'd suggest putting them into a nuke you use often. (Blizzard or Thunder)