Tantra Cyclas/Kote Speculation

So what are your guy's thoughts on the upcoming tantra gear?

For body, I don't think it'd be difficult to beat out usu, especially if they match it in STP and throw some other stats to the table.

As for the hands, I honestly think the 5/5 set augment to kick attacks is going to make the diff here as to whether to wear them or not. We're capping haste w/ head and legs alone+2, so haste on them would be useless. We're capping fstr and acc easily in abyssea, so those aren't going to do us much good (unless they want to make ws hands of them?). Unless they make them like bkote+3 and put 30 attack on them, I think how 5/5 augments kick attacks is rly going to come down on whether or not to wear these.

As for the design, it looks terrible. The body and legs don't match at all. The hands look pretty cool though. If it becomes something to 5/5, however, I'm going to dat swap it to usu, as it's a much better looking set of gear.

Design is nice, but god they don't match.

I'm expecting either high attack or hopefully enough store tp on the body and hands to throw me into the next tier with footwork active.

I'm also expecting to be disappointed.

I've been rocking the bkote again since I got af3+2 legs, so hopefully af3 hands can replace them, though I'm not expecting it.


A good thing though is that mnk caps haste w/ just head and legs alone+2 (and black belt). Not sure how many of the jobs will hit 25% haste w/ their full set.

Expecting body to be a mix between crit rate+/DA/STP/acc, some or all of those. Usually don't have +kick attacks on body. Couldn't guess at hands. Maybe one of the pieces will have +h2h skill for some D awesomeness too!

h2h skill on mnk related stuff? I laugh

Would be nice to see some *** enhance marital arts. *** a pup, lol

I also wish the neck wasn't as disappointing as it is at the moment.

Tiger, do you happen to know the store tp required to get a 4 hit with footwork? (If it's even possible that is)

55 STP required and you'd have to WS in it, too (and land the first 2 of the 3 hits of Tornado kick. 1st and third or 2nd and third won't cut it)

I think the hands will augment a job ability and the body will probably have crit hit rate/acc/attack/STR/DEX and maybe store TP. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them had +counter too.

I thought the augment to Kick Attacks was ocassionally kicking twice instead of once?

Body looks pretty nice (reminds me of AF/Relic bodies a bit), but it doesn't match the legs at all really. The hands look sweet though.

Peripherally related but I think the best looking body is COR's.

Ya no doubt we'll ultimately end up 1 skill of our next D again. Martial arts would be pretty nice. Maybe one day we'll get a multi hit kick/crit ws.

*** that, I want to be able to kick more than twice. We have two hands just like we have two feet, why can't I kick four times in one attack round?

GOD DAMN YOU SE!

Wont need Usu body if the mnk body is Usu+2.

With as powerful as the other slots have been, I'm expecting it.

I couldn't agree more!

I think everyone can agree that the body and legs don't match at all. I'm quite disappointed with the design. AF2 body looks a ton better than this...

You think my occ att 2-3 times knucks gonna be worth it in the end? I'm on undead atm.

For FW build yeah

Depends on if the full set gives you a new WS that has multi hit and crit chance. Right now nothing can beat victory smite, so h2h beats out footwork merely because of the WS.

So if they add a kick attack WS equivalent, then yeah. Otherwise, the 2-3 is pointless.

haste not needed anymore if you have feet and head +2 and BB.
what remains?`acc, att, vit, str, lolmnd?
i actually have no frigging clue what the stats are going to be. going fo the typical mnk stuff it will have +X% hp that could be said with a fair amount of experience we have with AF1 and 2.

Since the set augment kick-attacks is stackable maybe procrate will be at a very high rate??? (i.e: feet only less kick-attacks than with head and legs)

only thing i want: "when dealing physical damage occ. cast march (up to 2) song on self".

augmenting Martial Arts could be the thing for Hands imo.

I wish I could rename my character to Shonuff



Because the set looks silly and that's who it reminds me of....


Who's the master?



*Edit* Yes I know the set looks nothing like Shonuff's actual ensemble. I was merely refering to the fact that he looks and was silly, and that the monk set looks silly. I made this edit for those that were going to argue that the outfits look nothing alike. Move along.

Enhances Chakra
Full restore and fully erases all debuffs on self would be lulz.

Which thing I'm certain to see on them:
Hands:
1) Enhances Perfect counter.
2) ATT, STR, counter, +

Body:
1) PDT-
2) Acc+
3) VIT+
4) HP%+
5) STR, VIT+


I really hope hands are as good as they look, and body is not another "Macro in piece". Would go for a Juogi otherwise!

I really really hope this is not the case... ><

EDIT: For footwork build <.< lol

I think outside it's a little more competitive.

K so if this is all gear that stops at lvl 90 and theres 9 more lvls after with obviously some gear in slots on the way to 99 real question for me is which pieces out of the af3 could likely be topped again at 99.

Or they may just make them go to +3

Body: Augments Chi blast
40 mind
att -10

Hands: 30 att 15 str
enhances footwork

Tantra Gloves +2
[Hands]All Races
DEF:22 STR+10 Attack+20
"Counter"+5
Enhances critical hit damage
Set: Augments "Kick Attacks"
Lv. 87 MNK

Tantra Cyclas +2
[Body]All Races
DEF:52 HP+8% STR+12 VIT+12
"Triple Attack"+5 Enmity+6
Augments "Counterstance"
Set: Augments "Kick Attacks"
Lv.89 MNK

Tantra Ear Stud
[Ear]All Races
VIT+4 MND+4
Augments "Chakra"
Augments "Chi Blast"
Lv.88 MNK

Tantra Band
[Ring]All Races
Damage taken -6%
Counterstance: Occ. annuls
damage from physical attacks
Lv.90 MNK

seeing as you only need 2 pieces of gear in other slots to cap haste, only way I see something being better than black belt is if there's like 18% haste on it so you can cap with 1 other piece, which is unlikely.

4 > 8 > 12 > if there was a new belt would be 16, and still requires 2 slots of additional haste.

Giving Chi Blast a provoke effect, but with equivalent CE, and maybe double the emnity gain of provoke would be neat for MNK tanking.