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 Bismarck.Tuvae
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-10-25 14:21:59
Ramuh.Sagittario said: Bismarck.Tuvae said: Ive gotten no help from the job centre trying to find a job neither, they asked me "So what sort of job are you interested in finding? whats your area of expertise?" Me: Top of the list? Animator, thats the one thing i really want to do. Them: "Ehm, how about we put that as the least important thing, since its not likely to happen, its a bit farfetch'd, lets put retail as your number 1 job" Now dont get me wrong, i know animation is hard to get into. But why *** ask me if they arent going to put it top of the list? -_-; They dont even go throw a list of possible jobs when im there. So in protest, ive started takin the utter piss. I need to fill out these forms about what i do to find work. What i did/date/what happened/what im going to do next. One entry a few weeks ago: What I did: Pretended to be a Christian and applied to Bethany Christian Church to be an aid worker; failed. Date: 15/9/10 What happened: Nothing. What im going to do next: Be more serious/try harder. LMFAO XD Those forms are great an I'm pretty sure they don't check up on the information you put in there from ym experience.
Im on my third *** book man, its horrid. I tossed the first two so cant take pictures of them or anything. Sure ill get some mor stupid stuff soon enough though... Its pretty much all the same stuff. Looked on internet, looked in town, applied to ***retail outlet, over and over. I wanna try make it more interesting for the people working there, you know? I even asked them if they had any vacancies lol
 Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:22:14
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Cars are counter productive to living expenses.
Mandatory insurance with varying policies and fluxating payments, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Not to mention any loan you may have made to pay for the car in the first place with the cumulative interest building on that.
It really is cheaper to use public transportation or just walk/bike ride.
You do realize that public transportation in most areas is crap, or non-existent? Not to mention the fact of the danger posed.
I'm not saying it's the best alternative, but rather the cheapest.
Owning a car really is counter productive for living finances. I'm surprise that Jet has lived in most areas. the logic behind your statement is flawed, you don't have to live everywhere to know that public transportation (short of major cities) is garbage.
 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:22:53
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Cars are counter productive to living expenses.
Mandatory insurance with varying policies and fluxating payments, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Not to mention any loan you may have made to pay for the car in the first place with the cumulative interest building on that.
It really is cheaper to use public transportation or just walk/bike ride.
You do realize that public transportation in most areas is crap, or non-existent? Not to mention the fact of the danger posed.
I'm not saying it's the best alternative, but rather the cheapest.
Owning a car really is counter productive for living finances.
It's a necessity in most cases though. you've seen most cases?
you keep on using this word most to imply things....
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:23:07
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: west va is about the same, well unless you want to live in a shack. I'm about half an hour away from the wva line, so yeah don't talk about things you don't know.
i know exactly where you live city and road.. don't talk about things you don't know.
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:23:24
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Cars are counter productive to living expenses.
Mandatory insurance with varying policies and fluxating payments, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Not to mention any loan you may have made to pay for the car in the first place with the cumulative interest building on that.
It really is cheaper to use public transportation or just walk/bike ride.
You do realize that public transportation in most areas is crap, or non-existent? Not to mention the fact of the danger posed.
I'm not saying it's the best alternative, but rather the cheapest.
Owning a car really is counter productive for living finances. I'm surprise that Jet has lived in most areas. the logic behind your statement is flawed, you don't have to live everywhere to know that public transportation (short of major cities) is garbage. I walk to work, dunno what you're talking about.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:23:56
Lakshmi.Aurilius said: My college was paid for through scholarships and grants, so no it's not ***.
I grew up with only my mother who worked her *** off and had nothing. I busted my *** in highschool and scored quite well on the ACT exam for college entrance.
Growing up I didn't have ***, so I was easily able to live without ***. Some people are just so used to the lifestyles they lived while under their parents roof that when they get out into the real world they feel they should be entitled to those same luxuries.
all aside, tell me guy, why shouldn't they be?
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-10-25 14:24:24
Chaosx, you sound like a whiney ***.
You didn't get scholarships and grants? How is that my fault? Do better in highschool. Apply for said grants. Write essays, and meet the people that do the screening process for said grants.
I have a nice paying job now, 4 years after getting my degree, and I still eat the generic brands of food. I still eat ramen when I want a cheap and quick lunch. I'm still driving a piece of ***used car.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:24:36
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: west va is about the same, well unless you want to live in a shack. I'm about half an hour away from the wva line, so yeah don't talk about things you don't know.
i know exactly where you live city and road.. don't talk about things you don't know.
lol just from this statement alone, no you don't.
 Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-25 14:25:11
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: west va is about the same, well unless you want to live in a shack. I'm about half an hour away from the wva line, so yeah don't talk about things you don't know. i know exactly where you live city and road.. don't talk about things you don't know. Oh ***he's gunna get you!
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-25 14:25:15
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Sagittario said: Also while I'm on a rant (this isn't aimed at anyone) people shouldnt have *** kids if they can't afford to look after them, the government didn't have your child so why the *** should they pay you to raise the child. Man sometimes I wish we could go back to caveman days where you either went out and worked to find food an shelter or you and your family were ***. Dont go there. Kids hAve a right to eat no matter the ciscumstances they are born in. Lyou wanna see a newborn starve to death? Wtf this kind of individuality is what will lead us to destruction and doesnt help us progress as humanity.
Absolutely they have a right to eat and it's the parents right to provide. The child can't provide. Obviously having a child is not always something you plan and people slip up now and then, I'm talking about the parents who deliberately have children so they can claim benefits, the parents who cannot afford to raise children but go ahead with it anyway because the government will provide.
I know this is not a nice thing to say, but if you can't provide for a child, don't have one, simple as that. If people are desperate to have a child then they are willing to build the foundations for raising one.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:25:29
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Cars are counter productive to living expenses.
Mandatory insurance with varying policies and fluxating payments, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Not to mention any loan you may have made to pay for the car in the first place with the cumulative interest building on that.
It really is cheaper to use public transportation or just walk/bike ride.
You do realize that public transportation in most areas is crap, or non-existent? Not to mention the fact of the danger posed.
I'm not saying it's the best alternative, but rather the cheapest.
Owning a car really is counter productive for living finances.
It's a necessity in most cases though. you've seen most cases?
you keep on using this word most to imply things.... again shut up, it's common knowledge.
Phoenix.Darki
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-10-25 14:25:32
Only selfish people think poverty isnt bad. They have for sure never seen a starving family and what its like and if they have and feel the same they have no humanity in them at all and should *** die.
Not like ive been in that horrible situation but ive seen it a lot of times with close by people.
Ill send dexter to kill all of you.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:25:52
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: west va is about the same, well unless you want to live in a shack. I'm about half an hour away from the wva line, so yeah don't talk about things you don't know.
i know exactly where you live city and road.. don't talk about things you don't know.
lol just from this statement alone, no you don't.
k, you live in H on B. you think i chose west va by coincidence?
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:26:01
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Lakshmi.Aurilius said: My college was paid for through scholarships and grants, so no it's not ***.
I grew up with only my mother who worked her *** off and had nothing. I busted my *** in highschool and scored quite well on the ACT exam for college entrance.
Growing up I didn't have ***, so I was easily able to live without ***. Some people are just so used to the lifestyles they lived while under their parents roof that when they get out into the real world they feel they should be entitled to those same luxuries.
all aside, tell me guy, why shouldn't they be? because if they aren't earning their keep they don't deserve it.
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-25 14:26:31
Ramuh.Sagittario said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Sagittario said: Also while I'm on a rant (this isn't aimed at anyone) people shouldnt have *** kids if they can't afford to look after them, the government didn't have your child so why the *** should they pay you to raise the child. Man sometimes I wish we could go back to caveman days where you either went out and worked to find food an shelter or you and your family were ***. Dont go there. Kids hAve a right to eat no matter the ciscumstances they are born in. Lyou wanna see a newborn starve to death? Wtf this kind of individuality is what will lead us to destruction and doesnt help us progress as humanity.
Absolutely they have a right to eat and it's the parents right to provide. The child can't provide. Obviously having a child is not always something you plan and people slip up now and then, I'm talking about the parents who deliberately have children so they can claim benefits, the parents who cannot afford to raise children but go ahead with it anyway because the government will provide.
I know this is not a nice thing to say, but if you can't provide for a child, don't have one, simple as that. If people are desperate to have a child then they are willing to build the foundations for raising one.
This.
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:27:00
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Fenrir.Weewoo said: Cars are counter productive to living expenses.
Mandatory insurance with varying policies and fluxating payments, gasoline, maintenance, etc. Not to mention any loan you may have made to pay for the car in the first place with the cumulative interest building on that.
It really is cheaper to use public transportation or just walk/bike ride.
You do realize that public transportation in most areas is crap, or non-existent? Not to mention the fact of the danger posed.
I'm not saying it's the best alternative, but rather the cheapest.
Owning a car really is counter productive for living finances.
It's a necessity in most cases though. you've seen most cases?
you keep on using this word most to imply things.... again shut up, it's common knowledge. what common knowledge?
you mean assumed knowledge?
there's a lot of things you can't learn just by just googling big guy.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:28:01
anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:28:48
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long i get paid to do all this.
:D
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-25 14:28:53
Ramuh.Sagittario said: Absolutely they have a right to eat and it's the parents right to provide. The child can't provide. Obviously having a child is not always something you plan and people slip up now and then, I'm talking about the parents who deliberately have children so they can claim benefits, the parents who cannot afford to raise children but go ahead with it anyway because the government will provide.
I know this is not a nice thing to say, but if you can't provide for a child, don't have one, simple as that. If people are desperate to have a child then they are willing to build the foundations for raising one. Oh god like that woman who already had like 8 kids and was using medical means to help her get pregnant and had like septuplets or something...
Also I think you mean to say it's a parents responsibility not right lol
Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:29:10
Bahamut.Dasva said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: public transportation here sucks ***, and doesn't run 24/7/365 because we have a monopoly on the utility and we pay what they tell us to pay. So average rent being 700(going cheap) electric random from 80-180 (depending on season) + food, + transportation expenses, I'm way over budget, I'm sorry but your ideas of minimum living are way too minimum, people can't survive for long periods of time on that, + medical expenses. Lol most places don't run 24/7. Mostly cause that is rarely needed.
There is always conserving power. I personally don't use heat most the time and just snuggle up :). Turn lights off etc. Even in a 5 bedroom house I can keep it under $50 between gas and electic depending mostly on how much cooking I'm doing.
You did say previously cheap housing is 550... probably really crappy places cheaper but lets stick with your 550.
I guess I just grew up living with crap. Including not seeing a doc from age 5 to 18 lol
Not everyone works a 9-5 buddy, also yeah if you don't want roaches you're going to be paying at least 550, on the thing about electric, different areas require different heating needs and cooling, the average cost for the place i live now is between 200-300 a month in electric during the extremes, and I sit in the dark most of the time anyway...
Fenrir.Weewoo
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-25 14:29:50
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long
True. But I suppose some luxuries can be compensated through under the table means within limitations. FFXI is just a plasma donation away!
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:30:14
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long i get paid to do all this.
:D
me too but you arent crying about how bad it is etc.
k time for lunch
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-25 14:31:26
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Not everyone works a 9-5 buddy, also yeah if you don't want roaches you're going to be paying at least 550, on the thing about electric, different areas require different heating needs and cooling, the average cost for the place i live now is between 200-300 a month in electric during the extremes, and I sit in the dark most of the time anyway... You finally said the key word. Want
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:31:32
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long
I don't live on my own anymore, and when I did it was due to credit and a roommate, I've had the car for years even before I moved out, my friend gave me the failbox. Also I'm about to go to work (called in, go extra $) just saying that If i were to live on my own, you can't do it on minimum wage.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-25 14:32:01
Bahamut.Dasva said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Not everyone works a 9-5 buddy, also yeah if you don't want roaches you're going to be paying at least 550, on the thing about electric, different areas require different heating needs and cooling, the average cost for the place i live now is between 200-300 a month in electric during the extremes, and I sit in the dark most of the time anyway... You finally said the key word. Want roaches are a health hazard and can get a place condemned, so shut up.
Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-25 14:32:20
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: public transportation here sucks ***, and doesn't run 24/7/365 because we have a monopoly on the utility and we pay what they tell us to pay. So average rent being 700(going cheap) electric random from 80-180 (depending on season) + food, + transportation expenses, I'm way over budget, I'm sorry but your ideas of minimum living are way too minimum, people can't survive for long periods of time on that, + medical expenses. Lol most places don't run 24/7. Mostly cause that is rarely needed.
There is always conserving power. I personally don't use heat most the time and just snuggle up :). Turn lights off etc. Even in a 5 bedroom house I can keep it under $50 between gas and electic depending mostly on how much cooking I'm doing.
You did say previously cheap housing is 550... probably really crappy places cheaper but lets stick with your 550.
I guess I just grew up living with crap. Including not seeing a doc from age 5 to 18 lol
Not everyone works a 9-5 buddy, also yeah if you don't want roaches you're going to be paying at least 550, on the thing about electric, different areas require different heating needs and cooling, the average cost for the place i live now is between 200-300 a month in electric during the extremes, and I sit in the dark most of the time anyway... I pay like 60-90 max for my electric and that's with all my ***running and this is in an older building so lol@u.
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-25 14:32:27
Just helps to be frugal with your money and balance your input and your output. If you keep tabs on what comes in and what goes out and have control over what goes out, you can quickly find what is necessary and what isn't.
It's subjective though. Sometimes the necessary still outweighs the input and it's a constant step backwards. Living standards aren't universal especially if those necessities factor into means of keeping employment.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:33:35
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long
I don't live on my own anymore, and when I did it was due to credit and a roommate, I've had the car for years even before I moved out, my friend gave me the failbox. Also I'm about to go to work (called in, go extra $) just saying that If i were to live on my own, you can't do it on minimum wage.
i suggest you take the amazing fortunate opportunity you have while not living on your own to save up. hard work will eventually pay off
Bismarck.Tuvae
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-10-25 14:34:06
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: anyways if ***was that *** bad you wouldn't be paying for a membership to an MMO, wouldn't own a car, wouldn't own an xbox, wouldn't have the luxury of chilling on the forums all day long i get paid to do all this. :D me too but you arent crying about how bad it is etc. k time for lunch
Like i said, me and my GF get 200 pounds a month from her mother to help cover what we cant afford. Membership to ffxi is like 8 quid. Not breaking the bank, my gf owns a classic mini, it costs not a lot to keep going and i wouldnt call "chilling on a forum" a luxury. Id much rather be out working than sitting here. I dont do it by choice.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-10-25 14:34:23
seriously *** you all i pay 150-300 in the summer for PG&E but i run the AC like a mother *** i dont *** with 100+ temp i love me some AC i wish my ***was as cheap as yallz.
lol you *** dont even want to know what i pay in property taxes it makes me god damn sick every 6 months
So, my friend has worked for a bank for a while, so he has seen a lot of shit. He tells me all the time about how people have gotten unemployment checks for years, as if it was another check to receive monthly. He's from a small town, so he knows some of these people. He knows that they take on odd-jobs that pay them under-the-table, as a way to get both unemployment and money for working. He knows that they also try to stay in a range so that they can still apply for foodstamps, which they then buy food just to sell for more cash.
So, this just pisses me off. I'm the type of person who likes to fuel my own anger to a subject, so I went browsing around the internet for stories of people doing shit like this.
The first place I check has this site. Read the very first comment afterwards:
yes i have a house and we pay 1600 for mortgage , and the others bills and they dont want to give us food stamp , by husband work in a temp job now because he lost his previous job , i have an illness and im taking ssi and i went to apply for f, stamps and they denied it , because we make a lot of money , but thet dont count , the water , the sewer, the phone , the cable the heat our personal expenses the insurance for both cars , groceries ect , i think they have to, change the way gov, its working , because we realy need a lilltehelp ..
I can only pray that this person is joking.. You can't have the internet, cable, phone, and TWO cars be factored into it as if they were all neccessary items for living. Of course they denied your damn food stamps! What is wrong with these people? Do they feel like they should be entitled the world for doing nothing?
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