Love

wtf alyria?

It just goes back to what you were talking about earlier, about how animals "form attachments" but we project our values on that and we (as humans) make the judgement call on whether it is love or not.

Again, this stems from whether or not we can really know anything at all from perception...I would suggest that if we can observe a given behaviour, and note the levels of biochemistry involved to bring about that behaviour, that we could conclude that a given feeling exists in a creature that can't communicate that directly to us.

As to "love as a concept"...you do realise, too, that "attachment" is a concept also. Simply using a different, less-loaded word (like "attachment" instead of "love" or "distress" instead of "fear") doesn't preclude our ability as rational creatures to determine if something is occurring no? ^^ They are all conceptualised guesses or estimations of something we perceive...so if we are allowed to trust our perceptions and judgement, then we can comfortably guess whether or not babies or puppies love, too. :p Amoebas...well...we need stronger microscopes, perhaps. :p

Darki's avatar is misleading now.

It just goes back to what you were talking about earlier, about how animals "form attachments" but we project our values on that and we (as humans) make the judgement call on whether it is love or not.

Again, this stems from whether or not we can really know anything at all from perception...I would suggest that if we can observe a given behaviour, and note the levels of biochemistry involved to bring about that behaviour, that we could conclude that a given feeling exists in a creature that can't communicate that directly to us.

As to "love as a concept"...you do realise, too, that "attachment" is a concept also. Simply using a different, less-loaded word (like "attachment" instead of "love" or "distress" instead of "fear") doesn't preclude our ability as rational creatures to determine if something is occurring no? ^^ They are all conceptualised guesses or estimations of something we perceive...so if we are allowed to trust our perceptions and judgement, then we can comfortably guess whether or not babies or puppies love, too. :p Amoebas...well...we need stronger microscopes, perhaps. :p

no please
or it might get nuked too by all the whiners.

but its the same as the other avatars ive seen so it should be okay. kay? k.

I dunno, that's kind of tough but if you think of it, a baby won't know what love is until you start being loveable with them, telling them to say i love you and you back at them, showing emotion.

I'm not taking up for you, this time. I'm a useless male, who, if left to my own devices, would let the human race come to a terrible end.

Looks like boobs to me!

Looks like boobs to me!

You really need to post a full-body pic..

Why let them when you can contribute? Slacker

You really need to post a full-body pic..

I know, wanted to make her feel /loved with my perversion.

I know, wanted to make her feel /loved with my perversion.

Well, I mean, OMG it's like women only see us guys as a long piece of meat. I'm sick of being objectified!~

Essentially what I said, yeah lol!

Vinvv's staying on topic LIKE A BOSS. :o

Hmm.. Babies dont know how to love in the sense you're thinking, But they definitely have a bond to their mothers that they dont have with anyone else.

I consider that love.

Chemical and subconscious.

Just like everything else.

I like my subconscious. It just needs to listen to me better... but I'm pretty sure it thinks the same about me

Sorry I missed what you said lol.

I'm sure if someone wanted to test it out they could. Just no loving to the baby and see what happens.

Can always recondition it.

Chemical and subconscious.

Just like everything else.

That's the scientist in you. I thought of experiements a few time of raising a baby in a room with no human interaction, etc. lol

That's the scientist in you. I thought of experiements a few time of raising a baby in a room with no human interaction, etc. lol

I honestly do not agree with it being nuked. Then again I am sure that there is a different more eloquent ninjaing editing opinion out there that would put me to shame.

More fun: put a kitten in a room with only vertical lines and striped paint without horizontal lines and it watch what happens after a few weeks when you put it on a table.