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Hundred Knives
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:01:08
Fenrir.Mankey said: Night would Mirke > New body? Pizza would be used regardless so I wouldn't see why not generally right? we weren't discussing food
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:01:54
yunalaysca said: i didnt want to touch on this since what im gonna say is kinda moot.... but i'll atleast say something on the matter.
while in abyssea doing nm's while i wasnt riding fan dance (used it when it was needed) i was pulling the most hate. my healing wasnt being spammed and at the same time i wouldnt say every DD there was top geared... and depending on the mob you can /war for double voke It's certainly plausible depending on the relative quality of gear and whether everyone has their atmas in order, but I'd still assert that it shouldn't be happening consistently. I'd be very surprised if my DNC could consistently surpass my BLU in enmity generation, for instance.
/WAR isn't of much interest, voke and Animating Flourish are pure VE and as I've stated previously capping VE is trivial.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:01:58
and in the dnc set you're still missing like 13 acc...again not counting the dex/acc kila+1s.... redo the math using the 40 acc dnc would gain....in those other items...
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:03:39
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: yunalaysca said: i didnt want to touch on this since what im gonna say is kinda moot.... but i'll atleast say something on the matter.
while in abyssea doing nm's while i wasnt riding fan dance (used it when it was needed) i was pulling the most hate. my healing wasnt being spammed and at the same time i wouldnt say every DD there was top geared... and depending on the mob you can /war for double voke It's certainly plausible depending on the relative quality of gear and whether everyone has their atmas in order, but I'd still assert that it shouldn't be happening consistently. I'd be very surprised if my DNC could consistently surpass my BLU in enmity generation, for instance.
/WAR isn't of much interest, voke and Animating Flourish are pure VE and as I've stated previously capping VE is trivial. yeah which is why i said my point was kinda moot
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:03:47
Fenrir.Mankey said: Night would Mirke > New body? Pizza would be used regardless so I wouldn't see why not generally right? Rapp's been the mainstay for DNC for a long time now (barring situations at 75 where Joyeuse hurt your hitrate too much); that's not going to change unless you can cap haste without it or are fighting something really, really evasive. So yeah, I'd go with Mirke since the accuracy on Taranis should be unnecessary for the most part.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:04:23
I am only including 1 Kila because x2 is not as efficient as Kila/Auric since it allows for a 11 hit build on DNC and allows for over all better DPS/WS frequency.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:05:09
Parazonium sup
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:05:47
well you're still missing 1 acc on ring, 4 acc in ranged, 4 acc in back slot (sorry 9 off in gear)
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:09:44
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:10:41
sharpeye mantle still missing
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:11:06
but you're still missing some in some gear slots..or does gear acc cap at 76?
edit: sharpeye mantle, lucky coin, and addler ring instead of torrador's (idc about the att-..its minor lol)
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:11:25
You need the mantle to remain in the 11 hit build I believe no?
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:12:28
Fenrir.Mankey said: You need the mantle to remain in the 11 hit build I believe no? no actually it gives un-needed tp with charis set
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:12:49
solution is tactical parry obviously
EDIT: gdi, snuck a post in. Either way the weapons should be adjusted which changes things.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:13:13
ya the charis+2 set so far has +15 STP in 2 pieces...more than enough to cover the -2 from sharpeye instead of w/e you have there
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:15:39
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: solution is tactical parry obviously
EDIT: gdi, snuck a post in. Either way the weapons should be adjusted which changes things. imo Daka +1 and auric is my thing, panzo seems to be a crowd favorite for alot of people though
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:19:57
+69acc +19DEX If using Mirke, would require pizza 100% and DRG would be able to use meat if both were optimized on mobs with decent Eva, old content meat would be 100% fine, including Ein/Dyna
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-09-22 06:21:17
Fenrir.Mankey said: +69acc +19DEX If using Mirke, would require pizza 100% and DRG would be able to use meat if both were optimized on mobs with decent Eva, old content meat would be 100% fine, including Ein/Dyna
Why would you put this much effort into dancer
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:21:48
yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: solution is tactical parry obviously
EDIT: gdi, snuck a post in. Either way the weapons should be adjusted which changes things. imo Daka +1 and auric is my thing, panzo seems to be a crowd favorite for alot of people though Daka's not bad but you'd generally benefit more from a STR Parazonium if you're going full DD. Unless of course Rudra's Storm is incredibly awesome... Fudo and Wildfire seem really good, so I wouldn't be surprised.
STP Fusetto is a nice compromise, for what it's worth. Additional TP gain is pretty potent in hybrid support/DD situations.
Parazonium has both really good DoT and great TP gain, there's really no reason not to love it. Working on the OAT myself.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:22:48
Phoenix.Airbag said: Fenrir.Mankey said: +69acc +19DEX If using Mirke, would require pizza 100% and DRG would be able to use meat if both were optimized on mobs with decent Eva, old content meat would be 100% fine, including Ein/Dyna
Why would you put this much effort into dancer I would merit 5/5 Haste Samba and use hand-me-down gear from my other jobs but... there are people who love jobs because it appeals to them I guess? I could never understand it but thats me
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:23:26
Phoenix.Airbag said: Fenrir.Mankey said: +69acc +19DEX If using Mirke, would require pizza 100% and DRG would be able to use meat if both were optimized on mobs with decent Eva, old content meat would be 100% fine, including Ein/Dyna
Why would you put this much effort into dancer Why not?
Change Adler back to Toreador's btw.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:24:59
and what daggers Night?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-22 06:26:53
Definitely offhand Para +1, leave the Kila +1 mainhand if you're taking advantage of its accuracy. Beyond that idk, my DNC's still a little behind the curve as far as pure DDing goes lol.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:28:44
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:29:13
is that 69 acc accounting the +5 skill on legs?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 06:29:50
can't possibly be if there isn't a lvl 85 Terps...that thing is so damn broken lol
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:31:05
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: solution is tactical parry obviously
EDIT: gdi, snuck a post in. Either way the weapons should be adjusted which changes things. imo Daka +1 and auric is my thing, panzo seems to be a crowd favorite for alot of people though Daka's not bad but you'd generally benefit more from a STR Parazonium if you're going full DD. Unless of course Rudra's Storm is incredibly awesome... Fudo and Wildfire seem really good, so I wouldn't be surprised.
STP Fusetto is a nice compromise, for what it's worth. Additional TP gain is pretty potent in hybrid support/DD situations.
Parazonium has both really good DoT and great TP gain, there's really no reason not to love it. Working on the OAT myself. i have no finite source, but from what i hear RS is pretty awesome, elemental thats stronger than DE.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-22 06:31:30
No, how much acc/attck does skill gear give since skill cap increase? still .9?
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:32:16
yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: solution is tactical parry obviously
EDIT: gdi, snuck a post in. Either way the weapons should be adjusted which changes things. imo Daka +1 and auric is my thing, panzo seems to be a crowd favorite for alot of people though Daka's not bad but you'd generally benefit more from a STR Parazonium if you're going full DD. Unless of course Rudra's Storm is incredibly awesome... Fudo and Wildfire seem really good, so I wouldn't be surprised.
STP Fusetto is a nice compromise, for what it's worth. Additional TP gain is pretty potent in hybrid support/DD situations.
Parazonium has both really good DoT and great TP gain, there's really no reason not to love it. Working on the OAT myself. i have no finite source, but from what i hear RS is pretty awesome, elemental thats stronger than DE. which we'll find out soon for sure since im 15 coins away from it
By yunalaysca 2010-09-22 06:34:32
Fenrir.Mankey said: No, how much acc/attck does skill gear give since skill cap increase? still .9? yes
so i realised this yesterday during abyssea; Dnc has become quite fast, and it with the new armor that came out it isnt hard to cap out your gear haste cap. and not to mention (i havent quite verified this yet) that with the equip like charis necklace and auric dagger, dnc's dual wield surpasses nin's. just out of speculation but do you think with /war and saber dnc that you will deal more dmg if you just ride it and not ws if you have capped out all your haste gear + dual wield?
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