CA: Marijuana Legalization

Not to directly call u out bud, but this issue in general is one for much debate. On one side some people say it's dangerous because we have no way to field test it, however like alcohol, u can't really overdue it, anyone who says u can is very misinformed to the chemical structure and attachment of thc to your fatty cells.

Now for the fun point but "oh so true" picture how a drunk driver generally would drive: careless, unsure, changing speeds constantly, swaying. Now consider a pot head: both hands on the wheel, eyes peeled, looking both directions 4 or 5 times, creeping 10 mph under the speed limit. Feeling like even slow speeds should maybe go a little slower. Haha. (this part is not meant to be up for debate, it is an opinion, but so many people can relate to the paranoia of driving stoned that actually makes many of us take more precautions as drivers lol)

I'd rather be driving with a stoned driver than somone who picks the worst times and texts while driving, a drunk driver, or half of the people out there who are completely sober yet still are total dumbfucks on the road.

Why can't people just not dive when they're under the influence. I mean, I love to have a drink with dinner or whatever, but I can easily manage without.

£500 minimun for lights,fans pots food ect.

£360 plus electricity

profits if you konw what your doiing up to £5000 max(up to isnt a garantee..ya could make £1000)

this is true to an extent because when i went on car driving lessons stoned id drive slower(which is safer)...but that was when i was learning.ive drove motor bikes all my life and in the 10 years i smoked weed id regular go out with mates driving my bike poping wheeling and doing mad ***while under the influence of weed..

if i tried that drunk i wouldnt get out my garden on the bike lol

i found out a long time ago that the Human brain has cannbis receptors in it wich no other substance in the world can activate.

so if we arnt supposed to smoke it why has our brain got a program for it lol

no other drug has its own receptors.

THC recptors or somthing i forgot but they proved the brain has recptors for thc only

I agree completely.

You're steppin' on my weed plantation ***.

/bang bang.
dead.

this was one of the more fun and interesting threads i've posted on in this site.
:D good deal

Because it is a hypocritical way of thinking. To say it's OK to have legal alcohol sales, which definitely get you more "messed up" than marijuana, and not legal weed, is just backwards.

I've never met, nor do I know, one person who got so high on marijuana that he became violent, unintelligible, and lost his balance or his ability to make sound decisions.

People who smoke weed, from what I notice, tend to get more creative, happy, hungry, lazy, sleepy. The friends I know who smoke behave much better in public than the drunks I've seen, and they drive much better. Not to say this is a good idea, driving on any mind altering substance is never a good idea. But it is hypocritical to say alcohol is fine, but marijuana is not.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/marijuana/driving-while-stoned-pot/

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/driving/driving.htm

Don't forget charcoal filters for venting the smell, intake/outake fans, ducting, a master light controller, digital/analog timers, amenities, cost of clones, electrical expertise for running rewiring your breakers to run 220 voltage to the light controller, flood tables if you are doing hydroponics, metal halide/high pressure sodium bulbs...the list goes on.

Or you could cut out virtually all of the cost by doing a small outdoor grow, just plant them in the ground. Since most people here are talking about growing it themselves for personal consumption instead of being a wholesaler, this would net you enough cannabis for a whole years worth for a fraction of the cost (of an indoor grow).

Have you ever texted, talked on the phone, changed the radio, driven while exceptionally sleepy, or eaten in your car? Maybe you've had a dog or maybe a girlfriend in the passenger seat and was trying for your attention? How about had some prescription pills a few hours before driving? Have you driven to the repair shop knowing full well that your car was having troubles, instead of doing the safe thing and getting it towed? If you've done any of these things, it's no different than driving drunk. I don't see how you can be so adamant about the extreme dangers of driving drunk, when these increase the risk of accidents as well and happen extremely frequently.

You take a risk every time you get in a car, whether they're drunk, an inexperienced driver, or fingering their girlfriend in the passenger seat. A smart person pretty much accepts the fact that they could die every time they hop in a car simply because of the unknown dangers of other drivers, animals, faulty car parts, or weather circumstances.

Why aren't you gung-ho about banning eating, cell phones, texting, sexing, dogs, alcohol, and prescription pills outside of driving? Ok, then why are you so stressed about marijuana outside of driving?

I wanted to add something to your point of "it's not that easy", really all you need is a bit of study on how to take care of the plant, what you would need for it and all that.
it's a plus if you know a bit of horticulture, but in all honesty it just boils down to the point of how smart you are. If you can comprehend and understand the why of what you are doing you can grow some bomb-*** plants and possibly breed some hybrids of your own.
it really just depends on how much you are willing to give.
typically a 3 plant system is the best to go with for personal use, get plenty of weed out of that if you actually carefully do everything.

Read the thread you shmuck.

in all honesty, i don't think anyone should drive after taking pills that make you drowsy.
i've been there and done that, and i've almost wrecked a few times.
it's not fun having to slap yourself to keep you away driving for miles.

I <3 you bacon.

My high-school A&P teacher was put into a coma, and sustained severe injuries-causing her to receive facial reconstruction surgery, because some drunk driver thought he was on the right side of the road.

You can't justify the manipulation of your perception. The legalization of marijuana, or even non-prescription delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in any form would result in more and more of cases like this; until it happens to someone you know, or someone you love, will you see it through the eyes of someone else. Perhaps if it happens to you, because you had to smoke weed, and you become responsible for the death of an innocent family.

We already have enough stupidity on this planet, we don't need a bunch of mentally deficient hippies running around hallucinating.

/blush

You haven't given your reasons against it besides "driving". That's the only word you've said this whole thread, the more times you say it, the more annoying it is to look at. And anyone who knows anything about this world can tell you: The people who currently drive while high are going to continue driving high. The people who don't, still won't.

I'm positive for the first month of legalization, there will be an increase, but after that there will become diminishing returns on people using the drug. It's not even as addictive as caffeine. A few months post-legalization the number will stabilize to what the current number of users is.

EDIT: Also, you never answered my questions on if you've ever done any of those things while driving. I'm curious to find out.

This is absolutely true, some people will tend to have a knack for it simply because they are smart, more focused, and more willing to do the research than the average person. It really depends on the type of person you are and how much attention you are willing to give to it. Its also what separates the really superb growers from growers who are just ok. Virtually everyone I know has their own grow op and that difference is readily obvious to me as I see their results every three months. Its easy to pick out the lazy growers from those who are really on their game.

"It's not addictive, I can quit any time... but I just don't want to"

Basically the same as your avatar.

Want to emphasize that first of all. Didn't you just prove my point? I agree in almost all cases, it's less debilitating than alcohol but it's still driving while impaired.

Clearly I don't know anything about this world.

Edit - I brought it up because it's the only issue I might have. I think legalizing it would encourage more people to think it's okay.

Yes, because complete loss of perception and hallucination is the same thing as eating in your car.

The stupidity in this thread is astounding.

Complete loss of perception and hallucination?

Ok, now I get it, I can't win this argument. The people who argue against it are usually just uneducated and think that this "drug" is on par with LSD, shrooms, or DXM. There's really no point in arguing anymore.

Hey I can drive better on LSD than most of the people that I know(and they are sober).

On people using the drug. Get the context right. I addressed the driving aspect of it in the last sentence of the first paragraph. I can bold for you if you can't find it, I know words are hard to read.

See? Dumb *** like this are going to continue to drive on marijuana whether it's legal or not. But the people who currently don't, still won't.

Why exactly do you have to call me a dumb *** negative nancy?
just fyi, i wasn't joking.
You can train your body to do anything with practice, I am confident in my driving abilities, and I'm a good driver regardless of my mental status.