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By Deltino 2010-06-03 11:21:44
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So yeah another ws gear advice forum. what would be something i could use to upgrade my ws gear?


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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-06-03 11:24:33
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Rutters > Askar feet
WS gorget
N.helm > Wyvern +1

Hauby+1 and Foragers situationally.
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By Alexander.Temaruma 2010-06-03 11:29:52
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what race are you?
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 11:30:22
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Elvaan
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 11:32:34
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and ty Argettio i think imma go with rutters for the attack+ and wyvern helm +1 and of course work on ws gorgets
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By Alexander.Temaruma 2010-06-03 11:33:25
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get an rse satchet if your elvaan, STR2 on it
if possible MKD head str and ws dmg augments is best
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 11:35:34
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didnt think about the satchet. sounds bad but been to lazy to work on the ACP MKD and that other one lol
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By Asura.Donomar 2010-06-03 11:42:02
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Just a few minor Improvement, preatty much all that argettio and temaruma posted. And if u have the Gil hachiryu haidate
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-06-03 11:46:59
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You've already got +59 STR on that WS set.
Don't really think you "need" to improve anything.

Snow and Light Gorgets, Askar Gambieras, Heroic Boots+1, Gnadbhod's Helm, Maat's Cap, Strigoi Ring, Nocturnus Mail, Hachiryu Haidate are all pieces where you could add a little more STR, if you really want to.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-03 11:49:44
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Deltino said:
So yeah another ws gear advice forum. what would be something i could use to upgrade my ws gear?
Deltino said:
and ty Argettio i think imma go with rutters for the attack and wyvern helm 1 and of course work on ws gorgets
sounds like you know what you need to do.

I swear it seems like some of these "gear help" threads are just ppl that want to show off what they have. Sam should be one of the easier jobs to figure out the WS sets for. If there is a slot that has more str than what you have get that.

Noct Head or that SCNM Head or Wyvern+1
Rutters
Gorget or Justice Torque
Hachiryu Hiadate
Satchet
Str+6 Ring.
Cerb+1
That's all I can think of..
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 11:58:45
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ty for all ya advice and zorander not really trying to show off just wondering why i get out wsed by some other sams. just wanna try to get to the same lvl that they are at. gear is something i can change now. i know merits play a big part and i am 4/5 overwhelm 5/5 med and 2/5 str and 3/8 gkt.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-03 12:01:59
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Finishing the GK, Str and Overwhelm Merits will be a big boost. Nothing like completely free damage increase, 3 str, and 10acc/attk.
 
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 12:16:31
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this is my tp set. i know theres alot that can be done here. was going to work on store TP merits before worrying to much about this set. im only 1/5 store tp

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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-06-03 12:17:34
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Finish STP before anything else

And Turban.
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By Deltino 2010-06-03 12:19:23
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the 1% that turban will win out over the 4 dex?
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By Leviathan.Willoflame 2010-06-03 12:20:18
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There's mine. It's near perfect. Missing Nocturnus & maybe something else.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-06-03 12:20:55
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Yes unless your accuracy is substantially low, which it isn't.
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By Yuffy 2010-06-03 12:24:27
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Leviathan.Willoflame said:


There's mine. It's near perfect. Missing Nocturnus & maybe something else.
Near perfect when 5-6 slots can be upgraded? :/
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By Alaik 2010-06-03 12:24:55
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Leviathan.Willoflame said:


There's mine. It's near perfect. Missing Nocturnus & maybe something else.


You're going to hate me for this. :\

Head - Nocturnus Helm, Gnadbod's Helm.
Body - Osode, Nocturnus Mail.
Rings - Strigoi in one.
Legs - Hachiryu Haidate.

Very good set though!
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-06-03 12:25:27
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Everyone seems to except Dusk +1 hands beat Homam hands and that's 4acc

Yet everyone argues about turban is better than askar (only 2-2.5 acc)

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Leviathan.Willoflame said:


There's mine. It's near perfect. Missing Nocturnus & maybe something else.

Wrong way round.

Foragers and Osode (14STR and 15 attack) is better than Hauby +1 and Smilodon Mantle +1 (11STR 12 attack)

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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-06-03 12:40:50
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Also get a Bobcat belt.

8 str
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-03 12:40:51
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It's not the haste, it's the whitebox.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-03 12:41:21
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
Also get a Bobcat belt.

8 str
Also has Store TP -6.
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2010-06-03 12:46:10
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Alaik said:
Leviathan.Willoflame said:


There's mine. It's near perfect. Missing Nocturnus & maybe something else.


You're going to hate me for this. :\

Head - Nocturnus Helm, Gnadbod's Helm.
Body - Osode, Nocturnus Mail.
Rings - Strigoi in one.
Legs - Hachiryu Haidate.
Ammo - Ifrit's Bow
Neck - Justice Torque

Very good set though!

Things I'd add.

Edit: Actually I remember seeing a +6str neckpiece in upper jeuno last week, Possibly synergy/HQ'able?
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-03 12:51:21
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I think this would be classified as "near perfect" lol. At least it's what ill be eventually aiming for once i see where the 99 cap takes us in gear/rewards.

I refuse to buy certain things or make a move just yet.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-06-03 12:51:55
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The store tp -6 only effects your WS hit. It's neglible and can easily be worked around in your tp set.
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2010-06-03 12:54:28
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
The store tp -6 only effects your WS hit. It's neglible and can easily be worked around in your tp set.

Just use hachiman sune-ate +1's instead of rutters/askar/RSE
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-03 12:55:03
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Caitsith.Alriath said:
Things I'd add.

Edit: Actually I remember seeing a 6str neckpiece in upper jeuno last week, Possibly synergy/HQ'able?
Ifrit's Bow is a *** and a half to get. Not sure how Ire +1 stacks up against Snow Gorget and I can't be bothered to do SAM math right now.
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
The store tp -6 only effects your WS hit. It's neglible and can easily be worked around in your tp set.
Given the optimizations made in TP sets concerning STP I'd argue it's a lot more significant than you act like, unless you're overcapping accuracy and can swap to White Tathlum. Hachi (+1) feet over Rutters is a pretty good trade though, didn't think about that.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-06-03 12:55:45
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
The store tp -6 only effects your WS hit. It's neglible and can easily be worked around in your tp set.

Whether or not it is worth it depends on what you have to give up in your TP set.

WS frequency normally beats WS damage.
Caitsith.Alriath said:
Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
The store tp -6 only effects your WS hit. It's neglible and can easily be worked around in your tp set.

Just use hachiman sune-ate 1's instead of rutters/askar/RSE

This is a nice solution. 3 STR will beat the 5 attack on rutters.

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