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Monthly PvP Tournament! (Asura)
By Afania 2017-07-18 02:13:47
Welp this defiantly became who can quick draw faster then
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By Asura.Chiaia 2017-07-18 02:16:42
Since you and buuki are in the same ls you guys should agree not to come COR for your match against each other that way there is at least one interesting fight int his whole thing. Then whoever wins can come COR to the rest of it!
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-07-18 02:40:17
lol i dont actually plan to cor the whole time, why take the fun out of the conduit driven game anyhow? mnk ftw!
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 02:49:57
Questions, comments, input?
I am open to changes to make it more fair lol.
Food allowed but no meds?
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By Asura.Cicion 2017-07-18 02:53:53
Yes ban cor if you want fairness
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 02:55:25
Yes ban cor if you want fairness
Not going to ban a job altogether.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2017-07-18 03:42:43
Ban food, make them eat some ***food for round 1 in front of everyone, ban meds and ban quick draw dmg shots. I'm like the go to COR guy I know how OP that ***is. Not saying I have the best COR by any-means because I don't, just saying I can confirm it is OP as ***.
Also maybe ban Sublimation unless you want to wait till its fully changed so it can't wake you up. Though this one I guess is 50/50 is your opponite /sch and can wake or not. Should I try sleeping or no. If meds are involved that's a insta no since everyone can pop poison pots and would stop almost any mage.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 09:06:45
I could give you a list of real rules that would work and be fair for all.
But it does start with not allowing corsair. I literally explained on page 1 it's two job abilities and win. Only job that stands a chance is red mage buffed and aegis paladin. It's extremely broken.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 09:22:56
Allow Food use prior to fight
Restrict outside items usage, allow any meds dug/quarried to be used in the fights
Allow for 2min grace period before fight to pre-buff and find useful items. If you can find it, you can use it.
After 2 min, fight is engaged and you must meet center stage.
Restrict target glitching (and gear swaps)
I would hate to remove corsair from the fight altogether, but consider this: QD is instant, ranged, goes through shadows and can only be negated by magic barrier, stoneskin, or Shell (or absorbed) by the normal DD. By normal means, no player can resist or ignore the damage dealt by this move. A proper corsair can light shot > tactician's roll > wizard's roll, and then just shoot you one more time and its over. And he's fully buffed. Its hard to include a job that can do that. If you were using COR, the only way I could see it allowed is if you were forced to fight an Aegis PLD, RDM, or even a RUN, because maybe they would stand a chance.
I'm just making a conscious decision not to use corsair because it's actually not a good representation of a talented player in Ballista. It should be fair 1v1s squaring off vs each other.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 09:37:06
Just thought of it and full buffing would also be unfair to some jobs. Dark Knight fully buffing means monk automatically losee to dread spikes. It's hard so just pick something not gay and may the best button clicker win.
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By Asura.Boogerballs 2017-07-18 09:56:10
idk why everyone is bitching about cor, just go pld and cor is useless
By Kodaijin 2017-07-18 10:02:37
You should declare what job youre coming before the fight.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 10:08:21
You should declare what job youre coming before the fight.
This sets up counterpicks. I don't agree.
Quote: idk why everyone is bitching about cor, just go pld and cor is useless
Not everyone has Aegis PLD, which again, sets up counter picks. I outlined that if someone is coming COR, they should be forced to fight only a PLD or RDM, possibly RUN. That would put COR on equal playing field to some extent.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2017-07-18 12:03:32
Asura.Boogerballs said: »idk why everyone is bitching about cor, just go pld and cor is useless You guys all realize Quick Draw isn't affected by MDT right?
You should declare what job youre coming before the fight. horrible idea for the very reason buuki said
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2017-07-18 12:10:25
Asura.Boogerballs said: »idk why everyone is bitching about cor, just go pld and cor is useless You guys all realize Quick Draw isn't affected by MDT right?
I love it when people don't realize what effects Quick Draw dmg and they die anyway.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 12:17:28
I mean we can put together a short clip of Corsair using QD against every job in the game, and see who survives. My guess is, the only job close enough to surviving is RDM fully buffed and PLD/rdm. Then you guys will see how unbalanced and broken that move is in ballista. It was never scaled down like other spells/ws were. QD is the one move in ballista that is broken by even a walmart COR.
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 16:37:51
This wont be 100% "fair" either way no matter what is done. With quickdraw being the biggest issue then lets just remove its use.
(Put next issue with "fairness" here)
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 16:39:56
This is the whole reason I am covering all entry fees this time around. This is to iron out the issues and try to make the most level playing field as possible.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-18 16:48:01
Every job has a very exploitable and counterable action. QD is an instant win. Remove that and I have no more complaints. Outside items are fair if everyone uses them, then its equal playing field.
Just FYI, for every outside item used, that's 1-2 seconds of not acting you are inflicting on yourself, so using panacea/meds isn't always a win.
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By Asura.Warusha 2017-07-18 17:52:10
My opinion is that 30 seconds isn't long enough for preparation for these fights. I believe 2 minutes is best. The people referring to a fully buffed rdm are right in that they are capable of contending with a COR. 30 seconds isn't enough for a RDM to become fully buffed.
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 19:57:04
Full buff time for a mage would make it unbalance to them. Trying to find a good middle ground. Run away, Sleep, whatever if you need more time. I dont want a rdm to become fully buffed. Pick and choose your buffs then work within the fight to manage.
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By Asura.Warusha 2017-07-18 19:58:00
Full buff time for a mage would make it unbalance to them. Trying to find a good middle ground. Run away, Sleep, whatever if you need more time. I dont want a rdm to become fully buffed. Pick and choose your buffs then work within the fight to manage.
This heavily favors COR, exactly the job that most everyone is upset about. Your call.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-07-18 20:05:47
everyone mnk, then the best skill wins!
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 20:24:56
Full buff time for a mage would make it unbalance to them. Trying to find a good middle ground. Run away, Sleep, whatever if you need more time. I dont want a rdm to become fully buffed. Pick and choose your buffs then work within the fight to manage.
This heavily favors COR, exactly the job that most everyone is upset about. Your call.
Impossible to make everyone happy. Quickdraw is out, 30 sec buffs once invis drops and countdown starts.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-07-18 20:35:44
fights are lame when you just sit watching someone toss every buff in the game up anyhow, 30 sec is more than enough. If a player needs more than that to get an upper hand over another player, they arent that good anyhow.
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 21:01:46
Eilowyn wins her first round match 3-0. (Videos will be uploaded later tonight)
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-18 22:02:28
Colbrit advances past the first round!
By deshi 2017-07-18 22:06:27
ballista was never made to be used for 1v1. so if things seem out of balance, they probably are
play with mirrored teams in a lower cap, way more fun
hell, you could actually play ballista itself!
buukki knows enough to help you get it going too
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By Asura.Dasoccer 2017-07-19 04:55:20
I know FFXI is not really built for PvP but i wanted to make something different and hopefully fun for those who want to have something different.
Once a month I will be hosting a PvP (1v1) tournament. Being the first month of this I will be covering all costs for the event including payouts. If all goes well and people show interest in this then I will be happy to expand it to 32 man tournaments or even 2v2's. First place this month gets 9M, 2nd will get 4M and 3rd will get 2M. No entry fee this month for anyone. Its out of my pocket to try to get this some traction.
Once the 16 man list is full for this month, i will random the bracket and start to contact and find good times for each match to occur. I will post the bracket here as well as a link so you can keep track of how your friends or enemies are doing. All matches will be recorded and uploaded to youtube so you can have something to show off and brag about to ls members, friends or just to talk shit. Each match will be best of 5 and anyone can come on any job/subjob for any round they want. Remember that swapping gear during a pvp will result in a penalty so it is best to find the gear setup you want and to stick with it.
This is a open invite to anyone wanting to try this out. Remember, this is a trial month so no entry fee is required. I am also open to advice or input. Please contact me on here or in game on Dasoccer or Dabacon.
Current bracket:
http://challonge.com/9nmksu47
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