Odin.Jassik said: »
Mmm...
...nope.
Definitely Y2K.
Windows 10 Free??
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windows 10 free??
Verda said: » I don't understand the 8 hate, 7 is so clunky compared to 8. It used to be upgrading to a new windows version was an overall speed downgrade.... but 8 is an upgrade for sure. Functionally, 8.1 is a great OS. It sacrifices some compatibility, but at some point, developers have to stop handicapping their platforms to cater to a fairly small group of consumers. A lot of the same people that complained about 8's compatibility with classic games are the same people that complained about PS2 holding FFXI back. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Metro is clunky.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Metro is clunky. I use 8.1 at least 10 hours per day for work and play and I never have to navigate the dashboard. Everything I need is either pinned to my start bar or I push the windows button and just type the first few letters. 8.1 is functionally miles ahead of 7 or vista, you just have to learn a handful of tricks. So... Question. Will, upgrading to 10 affect playing ffxi?
the program itself, windower, or any other known issues? Odin.Jassik said: » you just have to learn a handful of tricks. You do recall that to this day there are people still clinging to XP, right? Bahamut.Gorion said: » So... Question. Will, upgrading to 10 affect playing ffxi? the program itself, windower, or any other known issues? Thus far I think this is still an unknown? But I really don't know for sure. Bahamut.Gorion said: » So... Question. Will, upgrading to 10 affect playing ffxi? the program itself, windower, or any other known issues? Widower 4 worked on one of the 10 tech preview builds, but I don't have an active account to test it in the latter build. Underneath, 10 is basically 8.1 with a facelift and some new features. Ramyrez said: » Odin.Jassik said: » you just have to learn a handful of tricks. You do recall that to this day there are people still clinging to XP, right? Xp has a lot of fans for good reason. People clinging to vista or 7 makes less sense. Odin.Jassik said: » Xp has a lot of fans for good reason. People clinging to vista or 7 makes less sense. It's unwillingness to move on either way. Either because they're entirely too comfortable or entirely too afraid of change. Or both. Ramyrez said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Xp has a lot of fans for good reason. People clinging to vista or 7 makes less sense. It's unwillingness to move on either way. Sorta. Xp is still used a lot in enterprise applications because a lot of them use proprietary software that won't work on newer builds. Others kept it because they're lower level workstation functions didn't require more and deploying a newer version license for hundreds of computers wasn't a good cost/benefit ratio. 7 and 8 basically require 64bit installs and x64 architecture to do anything more than web browsing thanks to the 2048 memory limitation of the 32bit hardware. That makes deploying a new OS functionally the same as replacing the machine. A lot of those companies are still running server 2003 or NetWare as well. Bahamut.Gorion said: » So... Question. Will, upgrading to 10 affect playing ffxi? the program itself, windower, or any other known issues? Ramyrez said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Xp has a lot of fans for good reason. People clinging to vista or 7 makes less sense. It's unwillingness to move on either way. Either because they're entirely too comfortable or entirely too afraid of change. Or both. or option C, no funds to get a newer OS or newer comp' Odin.Godofgods said: » or option C, no funds to get a newer OS or newer comp' I can't remember the last PC I bought (or sold) that had XP native. It's got to have been like 8 years or so though, hasn't it? If you're still dragging a computer's life out that long, kudos to you. Odin.Jassik said: » fairly small group of consumers. Enterprise applications are a different, consumer OS sales are a pretty small portion of the market. And when their biggest gripe is that they don't like learning new things, Microsoft has decided to move past them. They're moving toward cloud solutions, especially for businesses. Ever heard of azure? Unfortunately.
there might not be a lot of OS sales, mainly because all windows machines already come with it, and people would rather buy a new pc than just buy the OS upgrade.
and i am not talking about people's custom builds (as they will likely buy or pirate the OS) but all those who don't know the know-hows and just buy prebuild machines. Bismarck.Misao said: » there might not be a lot of OS sales, mainly because all windows machines already come with it, and people would rather buy a new pc than just buy the OS upgrade. and i am not talking about people's custom builds (as they will likely buy or pirate the OS) but all those who don't know the know-hows and just buy prebuild machines. Which is where the vast majority of their consumer sales come from. Very little of it is direct sales. Anyone who has looked at their enterprise billing models will understand why they have chosen to leave direct consumer sales behind.
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Ramyrez said: » Odin.Godofgods said: » or option C, no funds to get a newer OS or newer comp' I can't remember the last PC I bought (or sold) that had XP native. It's got to have been like 8 years or so though, hasn't it? If you're still dragging a computer's life out that long, kudos to you. my newest comp is the one i had bought for my dad many years ago. After he died, i started using it. Its a 2007~ i think. The one i was using up to that was a 2002. Odin.Jassik said: » Enterprise applications are a different, consumer OS sales are a pretty small portion of the market. And when their biggest gripe is that they don't like learning new things, Microsoft has decided to move past them. They're moving toward cloud solutions, especially for businesses. Ever heard of azure? thats one of the key items in aby right?
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Here's what I read online for this update as I have Windows 7 and also got a free Windows 10 upgrade notice.
Quote: What are the basic facts of the Windows 10 upgrade? Microsoft is making Windows 10 available as free upgrade for qualified Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 devices. It will be available starting July 29, 2015; people can reserve their free upgrade today. You only have until July 29, 2016 to take advantage of this offer. Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device. And: Quote: Is the upgrade really free? Yes, it’s free. This is a full version of Windows, not a trial or introductory version. It is available for a limited time: you have one year from the time Windows 10 is available to take advantage of this offer. So what I'm getting from this is it does seem legit. Either way we'll see near the end of July how this upgrade will be. I don't think it will delete any personal files, etc so it seems like it could work out. I definitely want to see if Windows 10 will work for me as Windows 7 is kinda meh... :/ And hey if it's free then why not get the upgrade? lol protectorchrono said: » And hey if it's free then why not get the upgrade? lol  "And now technology shall taste the lash of the hickory switch!"
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Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Metro is clunky. I use 8.1 at least 10 hours per day for work and play and I never have to navigate the dashboard. Everything I need is either pinned to my start bar or I push the windows button and just type the first few letters. 8.1 is functionally miles ahead of 7 or vista, you just have to learn a handful of tricks. 8.1 is slightly behind 7 in usability, don't give it extra points because you've learned to cope with the forced handicap. 8.0 was horribly useless for anyone not on a touch screen, all 8.1 did was make the UI more functional for those who aren't running RT. That UI was designed around unifying the computing experience between touch devices and desktop / laptop PCs and failed horribly. As for Windows 10, I'm of a wait and see attitude towards it. The tech preview should work to fix most problems before it's released and as long as MS isn't trying to crap Metro + Windows Store down everyone's throat then most should be happy. The forced auto-update kinda scares me in a tin-foil-hat way. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I got that icon at the beginning of the month. Definitely not switching from 7 anytime soon. Always best to wait a few months. Asura.Saevel said: » I'll be waiting for 10.1, SP1 or whatever they will call the inevitable feature update that is needed to make it functional. I have Windows 7 ultimate so far my favorite OS from MS. Asura.Saevel said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Metro is clunky. I use 8.1 at least 10 hours per day for work and play and I never have to navigate the dashboard. Everything I need is either pinned to my start bar or I push the windows button and just type the first few letters. 8.1 is functionally miles ahead of 7 or vista, you just have to learn a handful of tricks. 8.1 is slightly behind 7 in usability, don't give it extra points because you've learned to cope with the forced handicap. 8.0 was horribly useless for anyone not on a touch screen, all 8.1 did was make the UI more functional for those who aren't running RT. That UI was designed around unifying the computing experience between touch devices and desktop / laptop PCs and failed horribly. As for Windows 10, I'm of a wait and see attitude towards it. The tech preview should work to fix most problems before it's released and as long as MS isn't trying to crap Metro + Windows Store down everyone's throat then most should be happy. The forced auto-update kinda scares me in a tin-foil-hat way. I haven't "learned to cope". The 8.1 interface is faster and more efficient because you can customize it to fit your exact needs. It's also cross platform, if you use a ms account to login, it imports your preferences and maps your cloud storage. Integrated services are very helpful as well, I can manage multiple email accounts and remote management services so much more easily. Integrated client hyper-v lower resource overhead. The list goes on and on. 8.1 is objectively better than 7 and vista.
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