And even with the +Counter and attack being relevant, they don't come close to Vereth's damage, purely a survival tool, mostly devalued in Abyssea thanks to counter cap and crit rate devaluing the +attack. (Impetus up just makes the damage gap all the wider).
It's neat for tanking though. That's about it.
Do you just have all your DBZ clips bookmarked/favorited for times like this, hahaha
I'm subscribed to ImmaVegeta ImmaSeru(Seru = Cell) ImmaGoku ImmaTrunks ImmaGero ImmaFrieza ImmaKrillin, and a few others. Every time a video comes up that I feel can be used as a response, I save it to my "responses" playlist. Then I can just choose from there, lol.
GENIUS. Making me want to re-watch all of DBZ again, too lol
"Am I missing something or this would be only advantage of Spharai other than having much better look of course." this was about the situation when you can cap counter and have a PDT on you. Capping counter is possible with Veret too with losing just a little on damage so simply saying that spharai has advantage of counter is not entirely true when you have a cap that can be reached w/o it.
I think you're just trying to create an argument from nothing to justify using Spharai at the moment. Vere are simply better. The best advice I can give is to wait until the 95 update and see how Spharai match up at that level. A huge boost might be in store for the lvl 95 version, considering SE is well aware of the ease of pumping out emps (wouldn't be surprised if the boost to WS isn't +50% or something).
Losing 6% haste w/ just haste spell alone is going to drop your DoT AND WS frequency by 10%. If you dip under acc cap, you're losing even more w/ taking off acc gear (like I wouldn't take off acc gear on Dragua for example or any higher tier NM).
Haste is not worth taking off for counter+. Counter+ goes in slots where you're not giving up haste for it (like WOTG earring, for example)
That's the question here really. Is spharai really worth for tanking when you can reach the cap w/o it?
It's not a good option to lower damage in favor of +counter, but in Abyssea you're only around 10-20% short of that cap. It's a minor improvement, it's more beneficial outside Abyssea, but the +counter won't be as great as Vere's overall damage. Then other factors like accuracy/the mob attacking someone else etc lower counters usefulness. It's good if you are fighting something and really need the counter to live, but that's a rare scenario.
If you ever EVER considered a server transfer, I know a group who still does einherjar on Asura. Just did Odin a few nights ago. They are always looking for new people. (They keep asking me to go). Just so you know, if you ever considered. :/
Losing 6% haste w/ just haste spell alone is going to drop your DoT AND WS frequency by 10%. If you dip under acc cap, you're losing even more w/ taking off acc gear (like I wouldn't take off acc gear on Dragua for example or any higher tier NM).
Haste is not worth taking off for counter+. Counter+ goes in slots where you're not giving up haste for it (like WOTG earring, for example)
I think you missing a point again. Im talking about a situation where you need this counter. Im aware that losing haste for counter when you dont need more counter hurts your damage. I don't care about abyssea too at this comparison because it have no sense there. There is GH atma and crit rate/damage+ so high that Veret is not only monster winner on damage but also have a counter.
Question sort of on topic. What's the best hand armor for MNK when face tanking? Would AF3+2 be better than say a piece with counter? Maybe Sieryu Kote for the Agility? Something else all together?
I'm making relic now and can't decide between Apoc or Spharai.
Just want to double check my knowledge. Since counter rate cap at 80% you need ~15% on top of counterstance with af2 feet and merits.
So Spharai + WoTG counter earring or Veret,Wotg earring,af+1 legs, augmented +3 gules leggings, Ultion mantle, augmented +3 shura hands. Both those are +14% (assuming Spharai 90 is +11) you can on top of that add earring, neck and shikkoku hatsubari. Veret set has only 19%haste and loosing few more things like accuracy,attack,set bonus,etc
Veret will lose on TP phase but should make it up fully or majority of it on WS. Spharai only advantage would be to go even more defensively and keep 80% counter with a lot of PDT for example. Am I missing something or this would be only advantage of Spharai other than having much better look of course.