Obama Press Conference

That survey was about 10 years ago. The WHO no longer does them and therefore our ranking is ambiguous.

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America

I guess the World Health Organization must be wrong because you say the US is #1. I'm guessing they didn't contact you when they conducted this extensive report.

That survey was about 10 years ago. The WHO no longer does them and therefore our ranking is ambiguous.

He didn't say or think that at all. >_> You're just hating to hate, or didn't listen well. Read a transcript of the conference.

the fact that doctors get paid to prescribe certain medications doesnt help either

so true...

im sprry but thats not true. My fiancee does that for a living, and she gets fed up with people thinking the drug reps pay them under the table to push their drugs. I need to get her word for word quote on it but I can promise you its not true what you suggest.

We only have the best health care in the world available for people rich enough not to need health insurance. In terms of all this random criteria that the WHO based their information on, i would say it's all pretty important health-related rankings. ~obesity ~infant mortality rate ~overall life expectancy ~paid medical leave ~% of coverage all of it is important to someone considering their own quality of care. AND we still pay a lot more than any other country, while not even covering all of our citizens.

Where are you going with that? So we don't have good healthcare because people can't take care of themselves? You dodged the actual topic and just went on a rant about fat people (i am not one, btw. i'm in great shape, especially for a gamer).
The fact still remains we're extremely unhealthy and, sure, that's due to many factors, including our lifestyle. But we still have a high percentage of citizens that are not covered by any health insurance, we still pay a LOT more per capita than any other country, and we STILL don't come close to the results that they have.

Just blabbing "WE HAVE THE BEST HEALTHCARE" and then blaming fat people for not having any proof isn't proof.

EDIT:
And anecdotes aren't evidence. But, I went to Lebanon on holiday and I decided I'd get a porcelain crown for a tooth. I went for 3 trips to the dentist and at the end of it, he charged me $100 US. In the US, that would cost over $1200-$2000 for 1 porcelain crown. I came back here to my regular dentist for a cleaning and she told me he had done great work.
now wtf is up with that. When a dentist in a constantly war-torn country can make a living by charging less than 1/10 the price and get those results.

And my cousin is a heart surgeon in France and he's living a fine life. I visited him on a couple of occasions and we travel to places around the world together. He doesn't have to work and he even opened up his own free clinic in Lebanon to offer free health care to his hometown.

It's closer would be a good reason, another note is yes his system is old, however I doubt it's changed much, since our costs have only gone up, can you say the same about the services offered? What a small fraction of people do with their money doesn't alter the fact that we need a health care system for all, if you're too dense to realize this then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. Also you keep dodging the fact that our health care (overall) has never been the best, you just can't admit that can you?

Yeah, you're not going to win that point with me guy, also you should always be specific. The quality of care, I'd like to see the statistics for this, also no people shouldn't have to bust their *** to receive health care, nor should they have to bust their *** to make a living.

I have no respect for you based on your comment. No one should have to bust their butt to make a living?? You are one of those losers who expect successful guys like me to work hard so lazy morons like you can make more money doing nothing. It all makes sense now. I'm glad I understand you now so I don't have to waste my time debating with a moron lol.

There is no direct pay to your physician from the drug representative. There are free samples (which are passed on to the clients), and some freebies (pens/lanyards/etc) which don't amount to crap.

However, there are "seminars" where a presentation of a product is done by inviting doctors out to lunches/dinners; quite frankly, any ethical doctor should be declining any such invitation, due to possibly being seen as "a corporate shill" and losing the trust of their clients. But quite frankly, if you don't trust your doctor, its the same as anything else: you need to find a new one.

No there's no reason anyone should have to work for a living with the technology in the world today, if you don't understand this concept then you fail at looking at anything long term. Also I guarantee I'm smarter than your dumb *** who thinks "working hard is the only way to go" *** dumb ***.

You both are stupid. The bolded is just your silly opinion. just because we have the "technology" doesn't mean we have the capital or means to use such technology in full. We should be on Mars by now. See what I said in italics. It's a silly opinion that is only stating that we should be able to do X because of the "technology" available ignoring the state of the world or just the state of the US in general. It's Idealistic BS. I don't find you to be in the position to determine what/how the world should/shouldn't be :/

It's not just my silly opinion, it may be idealism at it's finest, but there's no reason to not pursue it.
Also sir unlike him I'm not stupid. Also there's many factors as to why we aren't and it's mostly because a large majority of people are ignorant and have the mentality that the only way to get through life is to work hard, they ignore all other options including working smart, or using tools to do the work for you. This mentality is in direct opposition to the kind of thinking that creates technology.

You can what if until you are blue in the face.
Doesn't make what you consider to be reality, reality.