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 Quetzalcoatl.Krylon
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-02-07 13:46:14
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Fast on the way to Amano so I am looking to get some advice on Amano-specific sets (TP, WS, PDT w/ 6-hit if possible).

I didn't get Usukane gear during the NQ salvage days so getting +1s is taking a bit of time so for argument sake, I am going to request/include salvage gear/non-salvage gear sets =P

Non Neo-Salvage

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Shoha

Needs moar Mala... ; ;




Kaiten

I don't currently have a set for this. All I really know is Shura Head +1/Elemental Belt-Gorget combo (I think?)/ and Ogier Legs. Anything else different from Shoha?



With Neo-Salvage

TP

Anyway to incorporate Usu Body +1? Wondering if that dex and crit rate along with the Store TP boost can challenge Domaru. Would love to use it in one of my sets as I love the look...



Shoha


Kaiten

Again, looking for some advice in regards to a Kaiten set that incorporates Neo-Salvage stuffs.

The top set-of-sets is based on what I have at the moment. Critique away!
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By Eijii 2013-02-07 13:56:03
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I suggest looking at Irumas or Taint's gear sets.. probably best up to date SAM gear sets.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-07 14:03:02
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Domaru is pretty hard to replace because of the 10 zanshin, not just the stp or acc/att.
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-02-07 14:06:48
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Is the non-neo salvage sets what you are currently using?

Ditch kemans and spiral. Pyrosoul and tp bonus moonshade for starters.

Use ele neck until you get mala. Ele neck is going to be the 2nd best shoha neck (When acc dips 1st) so just tp in nodowa.

Edit: Double derp, just wanted to change a few spelling mistakes and if acc dips ele neck is better.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-02-07 14:10:11
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Yea the non-neo salvage gear is what I have now.

Working on WoTG missions and just dumping all my gil into currency so no pyrosoul >.< But yes...totally right about all of that.
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-07 14:14:42
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Tpbonus does nothing for kaiten btw, will still want a flame/vulcan's pearl for that.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-07 14:15:38
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.

No, atheling wins for shoha, unkai for fudo/kaiten.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-02-07 14:17:45
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Can double/triple/quad not proc on Kaiten/Fudo?

Sorry if that is a noob question but just wondering why Sugemino/Ele Gorgets-Belts for fudo/kaiten but Atheling/Windbuffet/Mala for Shoha..
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-02-07 14:30:45
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Where can I get said spreadsheet everyone keeps talking about >.>
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-02-07 15:05:08
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.

No, atheling wins for shoha, unkai for fudo/kaiten.

But it's pretty close, I believe.

Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Can double/triple/quad not proc on Kaiten/Fudo?

Sorry if that is a noob question but just wondering why Sugemino/Ele Gorgets-Belts for fudo/kaiten but Atheling/Windbuffet/Mala for Shoha..

Because trip/quad can proc on each hit of shoha making it more likely and great spikes. Due to Fudo/kaiten being 1 hit they are far less effective.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-02-07 15:14:21
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.



Here's my current Kaiten build.

This is for capped attack btw. Kaiten has no attack bonus, so using beir+1 or prosilio belt + justicier's torque is best if attack is not capped. Also on days when it's not active, an augmented shura kabuto+1 I believe is best as well. There is a thread for this though :P.
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By Ragnarok.Azryel 2013-02-07 15:23:54
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What I'm using presently... Not optimal, but seems decent enough (I really need to get back into salvage).

TP: (Amano 99)

HQ Tekko, Phos +1, and Usukane Sune-Ate +1 would be obvious improvements here... I'll probably shoot for Usukane Sune-Ate +1 first so that I can use a real back piece and still keep my 5-hit.

Shoha:

(Kaiten is pretty much this with Ogier's Breeches)

PDT:

(Dark rings are both -4% PDT, and one is -3% MDT as well... -43% PDT presently with this build)
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-07 15:37:11
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.



Here's my current Kaiten build.

This is for capped attack btw. Kaiten has no attack bonus, so using beir+1 or prosilio belt + justicier's torque is best if attack is not capped. Also on days when it's not active, an augmented shura kabuto+1 I believe is best as well. There is a thread for this though :P.

The kabuto has to be basically perfect too beat mekira +1, and its not by much.
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By Ragnarok.Goldnboy 2013-02-08 00:48:46
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.



Here's my current Kaiten build.

Why is Sao. Sune-Ate +2 > Unkai Sune-ate +2
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-02-08 04:37:33
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Ragnarok.Goldnboy said: »
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.



Here's my current Kaiten build.

Why is Sao. Sune-Ate +2 > Unkai Sune-ate +2

It's only if you need the stp on Saotome to maintain a 5 hit.
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-08 15:36:19
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
Ragnarok.Goldnboy said: »
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Unkai Sugemino for Shoha.



Here's my current Kaiten build.

Why is Sao. Sune-Ate +2 > Unkai Sune-ate +2

It's only if you need the stp on Saotome to maintain a 5 hit.

Pretty spot on, I dropped Rajas to use Pyrosoul or Strigoi can't recall what I had in first ring slot, fairly positive Strigoi.

If aftermath is up w/ Amano equiped my spellcast will swap back to AF3+2 feet, if I were to use Masamune I'd be forced into using Saotome with each Fudo to maintain 5 hit.

I don't get it, you dropped rajas to use a 2nd pyro only to have to use af2 feet to keep a 5hit. So you basically lost accuracy and attack to use a 2m gil ring? And doesn't aftermath apply to the ws that activates it? Why would you need an am down kaiten set.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2013-02-09 22:12:24
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
No aftermath doesn't apply to the WS itself on first use

Yes it does.
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By Quiznor 2013-02-09 22:50:25
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Siren.Mcclane said: »
Valefor.Angierus said: »
No aftermath doesn't apply to the WS itself on first use

Yes it does.

Thought that was mythic onry?
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-02-09 23:54:05
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
No aftermath doesn't apply to the WS itself on first use, single hit WS so accuracy is moot, and second ring is Strigoi making up for lost 3 ATK, and gaining 5 STR over the AF3 feet, all I'm really losing is the conserve TP that never procs. Edit: Feet are also augmented for Meiyo Shisui so they're already in inventory for a reason outside of Kaiten, spellcasts locks them in place when Meiyo Shisui is active and because you can't gain TP with the 2hr up it's not hurting anything.

How are you gaining 5 STR and not losing attack, its been a long time since elementary school math, but strigoi over rajas is a gain of 1 STR and 3 attack, you lose 1 STR and 3 attack over dilarams which don't have STP you don't need anyway, so thats basically a wash. So you're actually carrying an extra ring for no real reason. I stand by my statement
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-02-10 00:24:23
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Valefor.Angierus said: »
No aftermath doesn't apply to the WS itself on first use
You gain .7 STP when activating Kaiten.

I would probably adjust your sets to this:

Pole/duplus




For non-regain build. Omodate when you get that instead of Unkai Sune-ate.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-10 00:28:32
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what? you get 7 store tp
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-02-10 00:33:13
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
what? you get 7 store tp

You don't get full amount when activating WS. Remaining is applied on TP hits.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-10 00:33:51
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That makes absolutely 0 sense
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-02-10 00:36:02
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I don't make the rules sadly. It's an easy check if you wanna test it yourself.

If you get 4 hit off after WS with AM active, it rebuilds @100 TP.

Should AM wear off before before say 4th hit lands on rebuild, it stops@99 TP.
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