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By Ericnuke 2012-06-02 09:28:40
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I'm wondering if I should just make amano instead of working on masa99. I'm sam at heart, after having most jobs before any level cap I found that sam was my fav, so made masa as soon as I could. Now my masa sits at 90 and seeing the time/gil its going to take to get it to 99, I'm having thoughts to just sell my hmp's and just make an amano. Would 95amano be Better than waiting out 99 masa?
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By Asura.Res 2012-06-02 09:50:32
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Amano99 if you're not going for mythic in my opinion, even at 95 it's really good. I like it atleast >.>a and they cost the same to 99

but there's tons of threads out there that have all the math done if you're looking for numbers
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2012-06-02 10:04:27
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Asura.Res said: »
Amano99 if you're not going for mythic in my opinion, even at 95 it's really good. I like it atleast >.>a and they cost the same to 99

but there's tons of threads out there that have all the math done if you're looking for numbers

Don't listen to this guy, he just sits in Port Jeuno all day!
 
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By Asura.Vyre 2012-06-02 10:12:05
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Stick it out with Masamune.
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By Phoenix.Syto 2012-06-02 10:17:08
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If you used the search feature. You would find your answer. Lets just hope your Samurai is not going to be as lazy as the reason for creating this thread. Here is the path to the answer that you seek:

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/29193/90-masamune-vs-tp-bonus-gkt-vs-95-amano/3#1790250
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By Ericnuke 2012-06-02 11:02:59
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Not being lazy just rl issues atm are looking to cut my game time out and possibly end up quitting, so the time/gil spent seems easier for amano 95 to me atm.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-02 12:18:55
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90Masa > 95Amano don't waste your gil. If you are going to 99Amano go for it the only weapons better are Mythic and 99masa.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2012-06-02 13:20:32
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
90Masa > 95Amano don't waste your gil. If you are going to 99Amano go for it the only weapons better are Mythic and 99masa.


I tho I wont need to tell you this but situational ***is situational.

I saw no real model of dealing damage with mythic in various situation (ofc in VW its pretty clear it would win but its not so clear for lets say legion or nyzul)

Same goes for Masa vs Amano outside of VW.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-06-02 13:22:53
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its like we have 1 thread a week on this subject...
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-02 13:56:33
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Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
90Masa > 95Amano don't waste your gil. If you are going to 99Amano go for it the only weapons better are Mythic and 99masa.


I tho I wont need to tell you this but situational ***is situational.

I saw no real model of dealing damage with mythic in various situation (ofc in VW its pretty clear it would win but its not so clear for lets say legion or nyzul)

Same goes for Masa vs Amano outside of VW.



Mythic and SAM go together very well and even if you can't keep AM3 up for some reason its still a high damage 450 delay weapon until you put AM3 up again. (180tp meditates make it pretty easy to keep up vs other jobs)

99masa is always good.

99amano can situationally be better but SAM is a high acc job before any weapon gets involved. Most 99SAMs are TPing with a 65% Zanshin rate tag that with 4/5iki merits and missing occationally is not a DPS killer.
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-06-02 13:56:40
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Amano is probably cheaper as it stands, ancient currency prices have dropped like 1~2k in the past couple weeks on my server. However, it's not particularly worth it unless you get the v99, as Masa90 and Amano95 are competitive with each other (you already have Masa90).

Also, Amano is ugly.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-02 14:05:44
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Also, Amano is ugly.
Kaiten still looks nicer than Fudo/Shoha!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-06-02 14:12:24
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Shiva.Keyera said: »
Also, Amano is ugly.
Nou :<
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By Asura.Elvaton 2012-06-02 14:58:21
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Ericnuke said: »
Not being lazy just rl issues atm are looking to cut my game time out and possibly end up quitting, so the time/gil spent seems easier for amano 95 to me atm.
make amano 95 >> sell account >> profit
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2012-06-02 15:04:07
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Amano is actually very nice looking sword but Kaiten is imo terrible. Masamune looks like WoW weapon on the other hand but Fudo is one of the best looking WS ever.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2012-06-02 15:11:02
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I like both swords, I think they are both beautiful in design and wonderful in function, and that they have two very nice weaponskills attached. IMO since both swords just result in shoha spam anyway, it will come down to what do you, the original poster, really want?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-06-02 15:27:20
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Ramuh.Kailana said: »
I like both swords, I think they are both beautiful in design and wonderful in function, and that they have two very nice weaponskills attached. IMO since both swords just result in shoha spam anyway, it will come down to what do you, the original poster, really want?
Amano 99 actually offers the possiblity to use Kaiten in some situations. But well, it's 99 related so it's easier to just get a Masamune 90 as it is.

I would say be patient and get both to 99, personally ;'-')
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-06-02 15:31:09
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Both fudo and kaiten are stereotypical gk ws's in animation, it comes down to which one looks better on your waist and which one looks better with shoha (loltoothpick). Masa wins in these situations =D.

But seriously, it honestly comes down to what you want as both GKs are neck and neck in performance.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-06-02 15:32:45
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Key, I'm not so sure Masa is the "clear" winner, but again it's the "when acc is needed" situations. Because that massive acc on Amano is stellar for shoha's second hit on higher content.
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-06-02 15:34:58
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Key, I'm not so sure Masa is the "clear" winner, but again it's the "when acc is needed" situations. Because that massive acc on Amano is stellar for shoha's second hit on higher content.

I said they were neck and neck in performance, masa is the clear winner in the looks department!

edit: i think that comment might have been directed at Taint's posts. However, the math using ig-alima's stats show that masa pulls ahead there...and all that math stuff.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-06-02 15:48:18
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Fair enough. I'm still close to finishing my 75 Amano, and I damn sure aint stoppin to dump gil into my Masa lol
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-06-02 16:01:23
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HMP market was pretty bad on Shiva when I last played, and showed no signs of improving. I'd go with the relic.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-02 16:08:30
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Alot depends on your access to Umbral if you can easily get a 99amano its a no brainer. If you are going to leave it at 95 I'd save the gil. As for Masa the HMP trial is aweful now with VW cooling down and will only get worse.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-06-02 16:19:13
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Alot depends on your access to Umbral if you can easily get a 99amano its a no brainer. If you are going to leave it at 95 I'd save the gil. As for Masa the HMP trial is aweful now with VW cooling down and will only get worse.

Exactly the issue I have with it atm. Those plates are gonna sky rocket. I'm sure I'll eventually find a group for ADL but even if, 95 Amano is good for me.
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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-07-17 15:59:23
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Tachi: Gekko animation. /thread
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-17 18:36:00
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necro bumped to "/end" a thread?

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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-07-17 18:50:01
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'lol'd?' seems we have a hermit in the thread.
Leave the house, in relation to necroing, this was actually second in the list for me for some odd reason. So it wasn't an intentional necro and I'm not gonna check post dates..

On topic Amano 95 > Masa 90~
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2012-07-17 19:12:11
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Fenrir.Reece said: »
'lol'd?' seems we have a hermit in the thread.
Leave the house

watchout we got a badass over here
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