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 Odin.Vecroge
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By Odin.Vecroge 2010-09-15 22:00:36
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Anyone know spec's on "Enhances Hasso"?
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By Unicorn.Kaomii 2010-09-15 22:57:11
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So far what has been tested and confirmed to not be the enhancement include extra strength, extra haste, added duration, and possibly added Store TP.

All that's really left is extra accuracy, unless SE got creative and added a more potent Demon Killer, some kind of damage taken minus, or TP Bonus to weaponskills to it.

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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-15 22:58:24
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If it did something like Add a TP bonus, or Enhance Demon Killer, wouldn't it be "Augments" instead of "Enhances"?
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 Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-09-15 23:00:54
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Also does +2 further enhance?
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By Unicorn.Kaomii 2010-09-15 23:16:12
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Oh yeah, I forgot they changed some pieces of gear to say "Augments" when it adds something unique to that ability. =X So that really just leaves accuracy.

On the other hand, the set Augments Zanshin. What could they possibly add to that?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-09-15 23:40:36
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To the laboratory samurais!
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-15 23:46:28
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
If it did something like Add a TP bonus, or Enhance Demon Killer, wouldn't it be "Augments" instead of "Enhances"?


to augment or to enhance...are synonyms...they changed a lot of "enhance so and so JA/JT" to "augments" on a lot of old gear...so i'm not sure this argument even works
 
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 Carbuncle.Battosaii
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By Carbuncle.Battosaii 2010-09-16 01:07:03
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i got the pants and my conclusion is that they are broken
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2010-09-16 01:18:32
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also, does anyone know what Unkai Kabuto+1 'enhance' seigan effect does yet? :O
 
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By Carbuncle.Battosaii 2010-09-16 02:10:51
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Carbuncle.Battosaii said:
i got the pants and my conclusion is that they are broken
Yes... they are x_x;

Do you really understand how broken a 5 hit amano will be!?

no broken as in they dont work.... enhance hasso does absolutely nothing
 
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 Cerberus.Neosephiroth
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By Cerberus.Neosephiroth 2010-09-16 02:16:26
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WOW! Very impressive! If that's true then there is some serious potential for Kaiten spam my friend ;).
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By Cerberus.Neosephiroth 2010-09-16 02:30:10
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That's so ridiculous :P. I have enough of a hard time as it is even full timing seigan to keep enmity off me lmao...wow...XD. Very cool. And here I was thinking Bustle Dirs onry :P. Very good find thank you for sharing :). This will help make the seal accumulation hell a little less painful ;). On this server Kabuto is a nightmare right now with prices so jacked, so I'm starting on legs and feet first :).
 
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By Leviathan.Revgrigor 2010-09-16 02:46:51
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Unicorn.Kaomii said:
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So far what has been tested and confirmed to not be the enhancement include extra strength, extra haste, added duration, and possibly added Store TP.

I havent seen mention that haste has been tested at least on ffxiah anyway.
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By Cerberus.Neosephiroth 2010-09-16 02:55:11
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Oh that's even better then! Thank you for clarifying I guess I was taking it's description too literally :). To me it seemed like the effect was only active during Hasso. If this is true the description isn't really accurate but that wouldn't be the first time...Thew Bomblet anyone? :P Even BETTER piece now then even though it's hard for me to let go of haste hehe. But this is very impressive ^^.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-16 02:58:53
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I'd like confirmation about the Haste effect. If it does just give you Hasso without the JA being used then you'd notice an effect on your recast. Even if it doesn't, you'd still notice a lower recast compared to normal Hasso.
 
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-16 03:11:00
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Whats your weapon? (Delay and any STP on it). Also, since Hasso seems to be permanently active, does using Hasso further increase Haste effect? You need to account for the Haste on the pants, so remove them, equip swift belt and use Hasso then cast. That would give you your regular Hasso recast with the pants on. Then swap to Unkai, remove belt and use Hasso and seem if the number is lower, if it is then it offers additional Haste.
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By Cerberus.Neosephiroth 2010-09-16 03:16:40
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Yes please test this hehe. I'd do it myself but I'm getting screwed in seals...you know how it is :P, so I'm not done just yet. Gogo :D /cheer!
 
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-16 03:20:32
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But you're definitely getting 10% Haste without Hasso active? Is the STR/acc bonus also active?
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By Unicorn.Kaomii 2010-09-16 03:21:02
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Link to Ejin's post on BG regarding initial testing

He mentions that there is no decrease in spell casts and recasts, suggesting if there is any haste, it would fall under JA haste.

Link to Ejin's post on BG regarding further testing

This seems to suggest there's about a 5% increase in JA haste.

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Edit: Ejin has the +2 version of it. It doesn't look like he tested the +1s.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-16 03:23:53
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Interesting, thanks.
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By Ragnarok.Kiyashi 2010-09-16 20:24:30
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So the question is, does this dethrown kitty pants? Becaise i have +1 and i don't see a difference myself in haste <_< but if there's a 5% increase in JA haste then af3 is better?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-09-16 20:26:28
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Yeah, definitely.
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By Ragnarok.Kiyashi 2010-09-16 20:51:45
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Interesting, gonna go into an exp party now and use them and see what happens then. I wish this stuff wouldn't be so vague -_- like just say Enhances JA Haste or something.
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