Masamune 119?

Assuming AM3 on both weapons, koga is at least 8% ahead not counting skillchains as of pre-alluvion gear, and I can't imagine it's changed much.

The only thing that was ever good about masa was fudo. Now that it is unlocked to any gkt it has no worth in the gkt comparison. It loses to tsum even outside ionis zones on real level content.

Koga and Masa are about the same price; at least on Odin they are. Would highly recommend just making a Koga. The first time you look at mythic requirements they may seem intimidating, but it really isn't. It's under an hour of work a day.

Really, the only use I get out of my 119 Masamune anymore are the old Unity fights that die in under 30 seconds.

It's a fair question, but it's ultimately trumped by the fact that Masamune is an inferior weapon that costs more (possibly MUCH more, and that's assuming you can even _find_ sufficient quantity of HMP/Riftcinder, which is a big assumption).

Make an 80 Masamune for lockstyle if you like the look (weirdo), but precisely no one should be building a 119 for serious use*.

* = the usual caveat for I just wanted it, okay, which is completely legit

In which case taking it to 119 will cost you pennies anyhow, soooo.

Okay, well, in this case, you're talking to someone who has been a career samurai and corsair for over a decade, can be said to be "pretty *** good" at both if not "the utmost elite" (I simply don't have the time to be as such these days, though I used to be), and had the time and money to make it and didn't because it simply wasn't worthwhile. And I know people who have it.

As for why I did DP over Koga, well, because when you've been playing this game non-stop since NA release sometimes you just decide style points are worth more than a few more DPS. ^^;

And there you go. The weighted opinion of someone who has it. Who is telling you exactly what we did.

I will never understand why people won't understand this concept. A 119 Empy or Mythic is a lot of work (119 Relic -used- to be...grumble...). If you love a job and want the weapon, make it. But don't dig for justification because you'll probably come up disappointed.

As far as I can tell from current prices on Odin, taking Masamune from 90 to 99 would cost around 315 mil (being conservative, 130k per hmp and 2 mil per riftcinder). Kogarasumaru would cost 210 mil (again being conservative, 7k per alexandrite). That's quite a significant difference.

Main reason my Masamune is 119, is that I already took it to 99 before Delve and ilvl. I was gone for 5 months, came back and it was the cheapest one to upgrade compared to Amano. Started gearing my sam and working on Kogarasumaru after that, and pretty much never used Masamune again.

Pretty much. Of the 6 mythics I own, the only one I regret making (Ryunohige) is the one I made only because it was supposed to be really good for the job, but I actually didn't, and still don't particularly care about DRG. I've used it maybe 5 times since making it a year ago; would rather have a Nagi or something since I actually play NIN, even if it doesn't come close to the improvement for NIN that Ryunohige does for DRG.

Derp. I flubbed the Riftcinder price.

SE really really screwed over Emp owners. I made a 119 Ukon but haven't used it in over a year. WS accessible to all for "cheap" and even if you do 119 the EMp its not even the second (and in some cases the 3rd) best option. That's ridiculous. I guess it truly is Mythic of GTFO.

Frankly SE screwed Ukon and Vere way back when it nerfed Ukko's and Victory Smite, then subsequently boosted everything but left them gimp compared to other ws'es. Masa just got shafted b/c Fudo became available to all; those weapons got shafted because the weaponskills are barely worth using even WITH the weapons.

Who else in WW has 119 Masa? I know we've only done Sam v Sam Tojil once and I came in 2nd after Arth :)

Anyone who gets sad over parse needs to get a life and go outside, best looking wep in game if you want something make it don't need anyones permission I've beaten plenty of Koga SAMs with Masa granted I "cheat" using Gearswap. Actually made someone rage quit to FFXIV becuase I beat him twice in a row. Got shafted with Empy WS unlock for every wep, and again with lockstyle finally but still great wep. People might say Tsu beats it but I've yet to see it unless full fail support that don't know how to haste and debuff properly.

In todays day and age, everyone should have a REM for their main jobs, regardless of what it is.

Reiden do I need to log back in and put your DPS in their place again?

BLU OWNAGE! Yes I put screenshots on WW Website, showing 60% BLu vs 40% SAM >_>

Ah those days where fun

this is obviously the real answer

To sum it up;

Masamune falls behind Kogarasumaru, and also Tsurumaru and Amanomurakumo in some scenarios.

Taking Masamune from 90 to 99 costs 100mil more (give or take) than 30000 alexandrites for a Kogarasumaru. It can also take a long time, depending on the hmp/riftcinder supply on your server.

Is it worth the effort? Only if you really really want one, in which case it doesn't matter (or shouldn't matter) what others think and what the spreadsheets say.

How is Masamune now? 2 years later?

Best gk for Sam 2 years later hehe