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 Shiva.Viciousss
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-08 12:25:39
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You want to force the South Koreans to absorb North Korea? For shame.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-08 14:20:51
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Altimaomega said: »
You act like it matters who said it or where it comes from.
It does? An honest discussion isn't going to start from a demonstrable lie. There's no support given for any of those statements. It's just the typical partisan propaganda you find slopped on Facebook.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-08 15:05:11
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It does? An honest discussion isn't going to start from a demonstrable lie. There's no support given for any of those statements. It's just the typical partisan propaganda you find slopped on Facebook.

You live in a hole?
1. The ACA is government controlling Health care. Fact.
2. Poverty increase. Fact.
3.19 trillion National debt. Fact
4.This Government is pushing gun control. Fact.
5.More people on welfare then ever before. fact.
6.Can be argued as it is hard to prove.
7.Class warfare. Do you even pay attention at all?

Please enlighten my ignorance and prove me wrong.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-08 15:25:49
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You posting a sentence followed by the word "fact" doesn't make it actual fact. Of course you will challenge everyone to "prove you wrong" despite the fact that you have offered zero proof of you being "right."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 15:55:03
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
You posting a sentence followed by the word "fact" doesn't make it actual fact. Of course you will challenge everyone to "prove you wrong" despite the fact that you have offered zero proof of you being "right."
That's not proving him wrong.

ACA is a law enabling the government to force people into health insurance. Not really government controlling health care, but close enough.
Poverty did increase. That's a fact.
The national debt is over $19 trillion. That's a fact.
The federal government has been pushing for more gun control. I don't even need a source to prove that, that's all over the news.
Welfare recipients have increased in recent years. That's a fact.
As for the other two, I don't feel like doing research, my point has been proven.

Either way, your argument is basically invalid.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-08 16:02:46
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Except I wasn't making an argument, so my statement remains correct.
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By fonewear 2016-02-08 16:04:36
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I just don't care to read long posts today ~.~/quote]

Me: I agree

I fail at quoting today for some reason too lazy to fix it.
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By fonewear 2016-02-08 16:13:31
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Altimaomega said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It does? An honest discussion isn't going to start from a demonstrable lie. There's no support given for any of those statements. It's just the typical partisan propaganda you find slopped on Facebook.

You live in a hole?
1. The ACA is government controlling Health care. Fact.
2. Poverty increase. Fact.
3.19 trillion National debt. Fact
4.This Government is pushing gun control. Fact.
5.More people on welfare then ever before. fact.
6.Can be argued as it is hard to prove.
7.Class warfare. Do you even pay attention at all?

Please enlighten my ignorance and prove me wrong.

Bernie Sanders is crazy. Fact.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-08 16:17:31
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
You posting a sentence followed by the word "fact" doesn't make it actual fact. Of course you will challenge everyone to "prove you wrong" despite the fact that you have offered zero proof of you being "right."
That's not proving him wrong.

ACA is a law enabling the government to force people into health insurance. Not really government controlling health care, but close enough.
Poverty did increase. That's a fact.
The national debt is over $19 trillion. That's a fact.
The federal government has been pushing for more gun control. I don't even need a source to prove that, that's all over the news.
Welfare recipients have increased in recent years. That's a fact.
As for the other two, I don't feel like doing research, my point has been proven.

Either way, your argument is basically invalid.

Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Except I wasn't making an argument, so my statement remains correct.

Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-08 16:22:41
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After we get Mexico to pay for that wall, they can do me a solid and pay for my healthcare.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-08 16:25:15
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."

I was simply encouraging him to try to make a better case as to why he thinks we are on a path to socialism. I still welcome that case, KN certainly didn't do anything for that argument.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 16:30:07
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."

I was simply encouraging him to try to make a better case as to why he thinks we are on a path to socialism. I still welcome that case, KN certainly didn't do anything for that argument.
On 5 out of 7 points I did prove that Altima was correct.

Was he correct in his original post he made? Probably not. However, he was correct in his rebuttal which you commented on.

You may not be arguing about the original point Altima made, but you certainly were arguing on the secondary point Altima made, which I responded to.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-02-08 16:33:55
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Kathryn Knott got sentenced 10 months! Woot!
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:34:11
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."

I was simply encouraging him to try to make a better case as to why he thinks we are on a path to socialism. I still welcome that case, KN certainly didn't do anything for that argument.
On 5 out of 7 points I did prove that Altima was correct.

Was he correct in his original post he made? Probably not. However, he was correct in his rebuttal which you commented on.

You may not be arguing about the original point Altima made, but you certainly were arguing on the secondary point Altima made, which I responded to.
It's more of a comment on how Altima "presents facts", without any supporting documentation, yet demands everyone else he argues with write a 45 page book report that he'll essentially ignore. And if someone takes a play out of his personal playbook, he'll call them lazy and that it's a cop out, because "he doesn't want to do your research for you"
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:35:46
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Kathryn Knott got sentenced 10 months! Woot!
Who be this?

I googled the name, but it was a bunch of LinkIn and Facebook profiles of different women with the same name.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-02-08 16:39:51
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An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 16:39:58
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Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."

I was simply encouraging him to try to make a better case as to why he thinks we are on a path to socialism. I still welcome that case, KN certainly didn't do anything for that argument.
On 5 out of 7 points I did prove that Altima was correct.

Was he correct in his original post he made? Probably not. However, he was correct in his rebuttal which you commented on.

You may not be arguing about the original point Altima made, but you certainly were arguing on the secondary point Altima made, which I responded to.
It's more of a comment on how Altima "presents facts", without any supporting documentation, yet demands everyone else he argues with write a 45 page book report that he'll essentially ignore. And if someone takes a play out of his personal playbook, he'll call them lazy and that it's a cop out, because "he doesn't want to do your research for you"
One could see that to be Vic's argument. Still doesn't mean that Altima was wrong.

Then again, Vic does the exact same thing, makes broad statements, doesn't back them up with sources, and demands people to "prove him wrong."

So, can we call him a hypocrite? Sure. So is Altima.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 16:40:23
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:41:33
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Translation: "He wasn't wrong, but I felt the need to say something to him anyway."

I was simply encouraging him to try to make a better case as to why he thinks we are on a path to socialism. I still welcome that case, KN certainly didn't do anything for that argument.
On 5 out of 7 points I did prove that Altima was correct.

Was he correct in his original post he made? Probably not. However, he was correct in his rebuttal which you commented on.

You may not be arguing about the original point Altima made, but you certainly were arguing on the secondary point Altima made, which I responded to.
It's more of a comment on how Altima "presents facts", without any supporting documentation, yet demands everyone else he argues with write a 45 page book report that he'll essentially ignore. And if someone takes a play out of his personal playbook, he'll call them lazy and that it's a cop out, because "he doesn't want to do your research for you"
One could see that to be Vic's argument. Still doesn't mean that Altima was wrong.

Then again, Vic does the exact same thing, makes broad statements, doesn't back them up with sources, and demands people to "prove him wrong."

So, can we call him a hypocrite? Sure. So is Altima.
I'm not saying Altima was wrong.
And yes, I've seen Vic do the same thing.

I think it was just a matter of who called who out first.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-02-08 16:42:55
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
Yeah I know.
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Bloodrose said: »
I think it was just a matter of who called who out first.
Preemptive Strike!

You are all hypocrites, and so I am!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 16:44:09
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
Yeah I know.
It's ok, Philly could always do better.

At least they aren't Austin. That's the red-headed stepchild city of Texas.

You can have Austin if you want it.
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:47:37
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
I have to WTF at this too. Only 10 months? And this is the same Kathryn Knott who's police chief father gave her special treatment for several crimes in this incident, and also admittedly thanked her father for the special treatment over twitter?

The very same person who would share photos of patients medical conditions while she was working?
Aggravated Assault? Simple Assault? Reckless Endangerment? And Criminal Conspiracy? The same drunken mess who's been banned from something like 14 bars in the span of 2 years?

Edit: it seems she was exonerated from the aggravated assault charges... which is pretty freaking lax on the judge's part. 5-10 months jail time for severely beating someone and leaving them to die in an alley, then promptly heading to a bar. With an additional fine of $2,000 dollars, and some probation... all because her lawyer, was somehow able to argue she "suffered" punishment by being excoriated at the local, state, and national level.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-08 16:53:59
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Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
I have to WTF at this too. Only 10 months? And this is the same Kathryn Knott who's police chief father gave her special treatment for several crimes in this incident, and also admittedly thanked her father for the special treatment over twitter?

The very same person who would share photos of patients medical conditions while she was working?
Aggravated Assault? Simple Assault? Reckless Endangerment? And Criminal Conspiracy? The same drunken mess who's been banned from something like 14 bars in the span of 2 years?
Bloodrose's stalking skills rose up .2 levels.
Bloodrose's stalking level is 257.
Bloodrose learned "Harassment Denial"
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-02-08 16:55:04
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Isn't America grand?!
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:56:44
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
Only 10 months?

Also, lolphillidelphia.
I have to WTF at this too. Only 10 months? And this is the same Kathryn Knott who's police chief father gave her special treatment for several crimes in this incident, and also admittedly thanked her father for the special treatment over twitter?

The very same person who would share photos of patients medical conditions while she was working?
Aggravated Assault? Simple Assault? Reckless Endangerment? And Criminal Conspiracy? The same drunken mess who's been banned from something like 14 bars in the span of 2 years?
Bloodrose's stalking skills rose up .2 levels.
Bloodrose's stalking level is 257.
Bloodrose learned "Harassment Denial"
Damn, only 0.2? I needed 0.5 to cap that skill.
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-08 16:57:17
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Isn't America grand?!
Seems like a grand ol' clusterfuck sometimes.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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As the most powerful nation on Earth, it's our duty to finish what we started and bring democracy to the people of North Korea. Kim, I'm putting you on watch. If elected as President, your days would be numbered. Your defeat would be swift and resounding....
We split N and S Korea to prevent demoracy, not to bring it.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-08 19:05:49
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
ACA is a law enabling the government to force people into health insurance. Not really government controlling health care, but close enough.
Poverty did increase. That's a fact.
The national debt is over $19 trillion. That's a fact.
The federal government has been pushing for more gun control. I don't even need a source to prove that, that's all over the news.
Welfare recipients have increased in recent years. That's a fact.
As for the other two, I don't feel like doing research, my point has been proven.
The word 'fact' is getting thrown around loosely.

ACA is not government controlled health care. Close enough is not fact.

Poverty increased compared to... what? Is this a percentage increase? Your link's data is 6 years old but it's showing a decline since the 50s that eventually reaches a baseline level around 12-13%.

I couldn't find anything in that welfare history link that supports a recent increase, but the same questions from above apply.

There's still a long way to go from those "facts" and the creation of a socialist state so at least we can partly agree that graphic is crap.
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By fonewear 2016-02-08 19:14:39
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
An American nurse who participated in the beating of a gay couple.

Kathryn Knott Sentenced
My take she doesn't look too bad maybe I should look her up...she has that chubby librarian look I"m into !

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