Lack Of Responsibility

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091306282.html?sid=ST2010091306394

Tl;DR: This woman plead guilty to charges against her where
she paid a man to kill her husband, stepson, and let one of the murders have sex with her 16 year old daughter. She is to be executed on the 23rd, the first woman to be executed in VA in 100 years.

She is now begging for her life saying she acted out of character and that she thought she was innocent since it wasn't her pulling the trigger.

Can anyone take this person seriously? It says she's border line mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but even my mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE cousin knows right from wrong. It's really annoying to see horrible people like this try to justify their actions instead of taking responsibility for what they've done.

Before any of you decide to use Mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE as a defense know that being mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE does not exclude you from Mens Rea. She KNEW exactly what was happening, and she knew it was wrong.

Thoughts?

She was completely in the wrong and she knew what she was doing. You can't just suddenly say "Sorry lol was acting out of character" it doesn't work like that.

Shame she's getting executed though, I'm against the death penalty myself. That's a discussion for a different thread though.

Life sentences are way more harsh than death sentences.
You have to suffer in a box for the rest of your life or be put out of your misery, I'd say misery is more punishing than putting someone out of their misery.
I think she should have been put in for life over death since she didn't directly take the life of another person, but instead endorsed someone else doing it.

What happened to the dude? And did the daughter want it?

wtf
kill that ***
***'d out her daughter


seriously, what the *** are in the head of parents that ***/sell out their kids!?

execution is for those that really have no place on this world, and are better off dead.

truly its more painful to live in a box but... yeah.

I just can't validate killing her as a just judgment.
Punishment must fit crime :/
If it wasn't that way I'd say we should be putting serial rapists to death before her lol.
But since that's not how it is.
Punishment must fit the crime.
I do think the idea of removing fingers for stealing is appropriate though lol.

well theres only so much justice can do to people as a punishment with out pushing the limits.

I'm pretty sure I'd send all rapists to get raped on the *** real good but... then again, like I said, theres so much justice can do, trying to keep it a little civilized.

/sigh
this is why this world is so *** up

I think death sentences are more expensive to the tax payers, due to all the appeals and court fees. I could be wrong though. I really hate when they give people like a 150 year sentence then reduce it due to good behavior. :\

She says she's scared to die, how does she think her family felt?

Really means:

Punishment is fitting the crime. She killed her family therefore she should be killed.

death sentences are probably cheaper than keeping someone in jail lol
you know how much they spend?
food and other needs, plus activityes plus cell/bed whatever.

^ that though depends on how long the prisoner stays. and lol with what she did i doubt she'd get out if she wasn't sentenced to death.

She didn't kill her family though :/
US prison system is *** up anyway.
There is big business in providing the materials for a prison to function, it's a whole separate industry.
Just like how the school system operates to an extent.

Is this thread moving into a death penalty discussion? I don't particularly want to take it miles off topic otherwise...

And Hilter didn't kill anyone

she sent them to be killed, so she is sent to be killed as well =p

And Hitler didn't get put to the death sentence.
This lady is getting put to death, how that is it not related to the death penalty?

This is an accurate statistic. However, I think if you don't use execution as punishment you have a harder time justifying it later on when you do.

Cruel and Unusual punishment was ruled in 19th century supreme court cases. They said that a punish could be cruel, or it could be unusual, just not both. They stressed the important of the "And" in the wording of the 8th amendment. So in some ways you could argue that since VA doesn't excute women often that this is both Cruel AND unusual.

Personally I'd rather see her dead.

I read the entire story.

The true mastermind of the scheme killed himself in prison in 2006.

The girl, I believe, still lives. Haven't seen/read about her dead. I think the girl hates her mom cuz of the crap she pulled.

My opinion:
Death sentence - LOL Life in prison is much more torturous than Death, which is why you rarely see it.

This mother deserves more than death. She deserves to be brutally tortured, and her death shouldn't be lolinstant it should be long and painful (which is banned in USA =( )

IQ doesn't show ***tbh. Mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or not, she's old enough to know right from wrong, as do other people. Especially since she's so religious.

She killed for greed and for lust (lol deadly sins), the God they believe in won't fall for her "lolsorry" crap. She KNEW it was wrong (she even stated it in the interview) yet she still did it.

BURN THE ***!

That's a bit different. Alot of that was soldiers obeying orders... yeah it's orders they should've normally said no to but then again saying no would've put them and their families in the same position.

Ok, a very basic example, so we get this clear about how she did kill her family.

If you have a cousin and you both look at a cockroach, you tell your cousin, kill it!
and he kills it.
You were part of the cockroachs death, I mean, that roach could still be walken and shittin all over the place if it wasn't because you did something so it was killed.

I mean, you can have that on your conscience huh!?
can ya?!??!

Sure he was. Just alot less people were involved then normal

Accessory before the fact.
It's really basic IMO, anyone who knows *** about how US law works would tell you the same thing.

Just some quick googling and things I've heard in the past about capital punishment. I'm interested to hear from someone know is knowledgeable about the subject, I know google and wiki don't necessarily give you the whole story. ;)