SMN Burning Frustration

It's not always the people who make the pick up runs who don't know how to do it. If you get one or two people who are not listening then they can mess up the run too. I can usually stay in the place for hours on end, but get one or two people at the start that mess up the kills to build up lights then they can mess it up.

How are people meant to learn how Abyssea works without learning. How did the first people figure out how it worked?

If you`re in a group that isn`t as clued up on Abyssea as you, offer advice, teach each other.

Im so off-topic, im trying to stay within the realms but im getting so excited!

Do you think its worth getting sea with a new character or is it better to skip it?

Abyssea is easy to get or a fairly tough quest?


I want to play summoner so this forum is very interesting.

It's not the new people it's the people who think that all zones work the same for all mobs so they do it their way and they keep doing it that way. When I make runs you get a couple of warnings and if you still dont listen you get booted.

You can Solo CoP with a 75 job up to chapter 6 I think. Abyssea just have to buy expansion.

What about people who refuse to learn?

I did it before level sync came out and I did it cause I liked the job *shock I know* so I don't care that there is an 'easier' way to do it

cause I mean I thought this game was a jouney to get to 75 and then 80, not to do it as fast as possible. I mean if you want to max out your crap in a weekend go play WoW, seriously.

Also sure some SMN burn SMNs might know things, but a VAST Majority don't. I had a SMN/NIN *that was in a party mind you doing the final Zilart fight* wearing Errant Gear and a Walmart Turbin telling me that the max Hastega time was 1:30 and he was calling me stupid when I said he had no idea what he was talking about

Also don't even get me started about how futile it was telling him that /NIN was pointless for a boss fight where if he's going to get hit by ANYTHING, it will be a Ga spell

If you can see that someone is refusing to learn from someone that knows about it, you don't have to stay in that alliance, you have a choice. It does`nt take long to work out if someone knows how abyssea works or not.

Rajas alone makes it worth getting Sea (if you're going to level a melee job) and a few of the drops there are still relevant. Getting Abyssea is easy, buy the expansion and head to Port Jeuno.
Different strokes for different folks, though the idea of maxing out in a weekend is laughable. You might cap your level that fast, but merits and endgame gear? No. And for many of us, endgame is the meat of FFXI.

i lvl'd smn from 75 to 79(30k tnl) in abbyssea before my stones ran out or party ended forgot then got an invite to smn burn with ZANNO here and got my 30k as fast as it takes to cook a pizza!

smn burn FTW,the place to be when your stones run out or your party ends!

a friend of mine took cor from 33 to 75 in one day so it is quick and easy exp if ur party knows what its doing.

xp started off for me at 0 when i was chest bitching on level40 thf but it went to about 180 before the party ended. though it didnt last long wouldve been much more...

can skill magics up in abyssea perfectly fine as low level. if ur not opening chests hit the mob with magic like u wouuld in besiged might not be so well with melee but u could use sushi at 65 and possibly hit some not nesessarily as bad as AFB skillwise
if a abyssea party can last along time and has people who know wtf they doing it easilly tops a AFB

I somewhat agree with PChan, it's like a first for me. Let's compare:

Summoner Burn
Level ranges of leechers = 1-80
Number of leechers = Usually 2 for a 6 person party
Number of summoners(level 10-80) = 3-6(if leechers leech on SMN)

Abyssea Alliance
Level ranges of leech = 30-80
Number of leechers = 1-2 for a 18 person party
Out of that, number of summoners(level 30-60) = 1-2

I don't think it's a usual occurrence for someone to say: "Hey, we need some leechers/chest *** for this abyssea party". From what I've seen those spots are usually filled fairly quickly, unless you're the one who made the party. I'm just saying, you guys make it sound like an alliance of level 30s can go in, kill monsters for 3hrs, and then come out as level 80. No, there's only 1, maybe 2 spots for that low level position in the alliance.

dont think ive ever heard someone ask before as people would rather high level so they can attack while building lights. anyone could open chests. usually friends with leader that leech or if u make it yourself.

Yesterday I went to an abyssean party that had no chest *** at all. I capped my exp and merits on 80 and asked the leader if i could "change jobs and be the chest master". I didnt said I was coming BLM 41 nor that I was a "leech". Just use the correct words and omit the bad parts (coming low lvl).

Ended up leaving the party after looooong hours as BLM 64. Spent 80k cruor on keys (almost 30 stacks), and I was guessing most of the chests (I keyed only when I got 2 guesses wrong, keyed on ebon and golden light - Time Extention I guessed, since there was 140seconds to do it).It's pretty much like astral burn really, bottom line there's no much difference.

75's struggle to hit abbyssea mobs consistanly with sushi

i was hitting the mobs about 25% of the time @lvl60 with sushi although 95% of them were 0s

nice

although now that i think about it my dagger was capped. someone with lower skills would not have nearly as much luck. at least you can skill magics easilly on them

I leveled my RNG sub from 37-46 in abyssea in about 3 hours. Exp started about somewhere between 1-10 per kill, but by the time I had to leave I was getting 250-300 per kill. With the chest bonuses as well, you fly through levels, just like a 75+. But, I will admit, I did nothing other than opening the chests lol.

~25% just means your hitrate was floored, I could probably hit about that often (would be 20% on a parse) on any of my non-80 jobs.

mhh I know you Gekuz, so I can agree, but don't understand if you joined for the first time a astral burn party, and they was just explain you what you should do, or you knew already what you had to do. In any case, have a job 75, or have a relic doesn't mean that you know how to play the job. Exping is easy, learn how to play the proper job is different. Abyssea and astral burn is good exp ONLY if PPL is good, or doesn't join with only 1-2 stones when you shout for 120 minutes+, or when they leave after a while for event or whatever. If you knew that you had event why you join then make PPL waste time, stones and can be failga too. Astral burn is different, PPL join pretend to know everything when they don't, then they wait for 100+ mp after for shot another Shiva 2-hour when 50 is enough XD... Gekuz leave them be. See you in game ^^

Oh btw, I level some in astral burn, and some in normal party, same with Abyssea I level other jobs, tho I spent time in Besieged or other things for skill up.

well that got *** up in my reply oh well lol

Well then make the party. Far easier and faster to make an abyssea party, than a smn burn party.

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